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The car used a Cosworth engine throughout the course of the 2010 season, of which it competed in every race with two of the four drivers who raced it. The team scored no points with the car during the season, and gained a highest result of fourteenth place. This was scored by both Chandhok and Senna, and meant that the team were placed eleventh and second-last in the 2010 World Constructors' Championship standings. The car gained no title sponsor from the team, and the car was never developed. Hispania's successor for their 2011 season campaign, the F111, was largely based upon the F110.
I would like to ask for some guidance. I am trying to add three diffirent articles to Wiki about various New Zealand makes. They have been disallowed by an editor and I don't think the editor is correct. If you are able, can you take a look and provide me with your feedback please.
Also on the ever controversial "Fastest production car" entry. The Ferrari F40 is given a higher top speed the the Lamborghini Diablo - should the Diablo be on the list?
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Thanks for your assistance, I've entered into debate with the reviewer over the merits of the Alternative Cars article, lodged a question in the forum for more information on the Countess Moulding Countach's, and I'm going to rewrite the Reid Steam Car article as a biography - as Reid was significant in a New Zealand context. There is a published biography on a NZ government website that will prove useful. NealeFamily (talk) 07:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
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The car used a Cosworth engine throughout the course of the 2010 season, of which it competed in every race with two of the four drivers who raced it. The team scored no points with the car during the season, and gained a highest result of fourteenth place. This was scored by both Chandhok and Senna, and meant that the team were placed eleventh and second-last in the 2010 World Constructors' Championship standings. The car gained no title sponsor from the team, and the car was never developed. Hispania's successor for their 2011 season campaign, the F111, was largely based upon the F110.
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Vettel had started the race in pole position alongside Button, whom he had marginally outqualified. The two drivers were the only two within mathematical contention for the title. Button attempted to overtake Vettel at the start of the race, yet was pressured towards the grass by Vettel which resulted in him losing second place to Lewis Hamilton (who had started in third). Vettel was passed by Button in the second pit-stop phase, and was then passed by Alonso in the third. Hamilton slipped back from second to fifth, predominantly in the pit-stops; debris from a collision between himself and Felipe Massa caused a safety car period in the race. The second Red Bull of Mark Webber finished in fourth position.
As a consequence of the race, Vettel secured the World Drivers' Championship for the second year in succession, having only required one point prior to the weekend to be declared World Champion. Button remained in second place on the standings after his victory, extending the gap over third-placed Alonso to eight points. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull's championship lead over McLaren was cut to 130 points, with Ferrari a further 96 points behind in third position.
That was a quick update and finding of photo - I don't know if the white tuned 75 is really necessary any longer, it just looks SO good. Cheers, ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Re: Undo of my edits of the "List of fastest production cars" page...
I added three cars to the list (Countach LP400, Diablo, and EB110 GT) and provided citations for all three to support their top speed. All three citations referenced tests made by reputable car magazines: Motor, Road and Track, and Ruoteclassiche (a division of Quattroruote). I provided links to the specific magazine article where possible, and referenced the exact issue when not possible. This seems to be the standard citation procedure for other cars included in the list. For instance, The Miura citation links to an Autozine article that itself cites Motor magazine (The same type of citation that I used for the EB110) and the 300SL citation references a specific issue of Road and Track magazine but does not provide a link to the article (as I did for the Diablo).
You "undid" my edits and reverted the page to the previous format, saying "needs proper soucre for mention these are world fastests carsm the top speed is not enough."
Can you please be more specific about why the sources that I cited are inadequate? As I documented above, my citation standards are on par with those supporting the other cars listed in the page...
See my post on the talk page for the article. I agree with user 93.183.236.73 that it is not necessary (and in most cases not possible) to find a source that calls the car "the fastest" but only to find an independent source that measures the top speed.
Even so, it seems arbitrary that you would remove my contributions without removing the other cars in the list that do not link to a source stating that the car was the fastest at the time. Jvshenderson (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I did read the entire talk page, and quite frankly there are more supporters for my point of view regarding citations that for yours. I agree with the need for verifiable encyclopedic content, but I strongly agree with user 93.183.236.73 when he says "for some of the cars you may never find a credible source explicitly stating that the car is the fastest in the world. Up until 80's this was very rarely claimed by reviewers." and later "I'm well aware of the conceptual problems associated with this particular subject. But unless this thread is entirely removed, it can only be as good as this." and still later says "You can not remove any of these entries without removing all the entries before them. This would break the consistency of the table. Let me explain. If you remove DB4, E-type and Grifo, the table will suggest that 300SL, with the top speed of 140 mph was the fastest production road car up until the Miura introduction. But this is known to be incorrect as we have a proof that there were a faster cars in the 1955-1966 period. And the currently present citations do prove this unambiguously. So to avoid any confusion we'd have to start this table with 288GTO".
Not to mention my own issues with the requirement: "A source stating that "The Grifo was considered the fastest production car one could buy in 1966" is not meaningful because there could have been faster cars that preceeded it but were no longer for sale in 1966, and because it depends on the specific source's definition of "production car.""
I am going to reinstate my edit from yesterday because I believe that the sources I cited are reputable, and it is important to have a more complete table. Please do not remove my additions until there is a clear consensus on the talk page regarding citation standards for the page. Jvshenderson (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
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The race, contested over 58 laps, was won by McLaren driver Jenson Button who took his third victory at the Albert Park Circuit. Reigning Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel, driving for Red Bull Racing, finished in second place, while polesitter and McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton completed the podium. Australian Mark Webber was fourth, his best result in his home grand prix.
Requested a block on 212.57.79.102 for multiple 3RR violations. Let him be and revert after he's blocked? Meters (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
rumours
Thanks for your work on the turbo articles. It turns out the M3 triple-turbo has a quote from the head of M division, so it isn't a rumour. I am curious about the rumour policy though, could you please post a link to it? 1292simon (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
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While i still don't agree with the removal of the section rather than working on any issues with it, i can see it did have problems now although fairly minor still. Anyway please accept this. Thanks Jenova2015:31, 16 April 2012 (UTC) has extended an olive branch of peace.
Citroen C3 Picasso
Thanks for the edits, they were much needed and very useful. Can i ask what this is about?: "62 mpg-imp (4.6 L/100 km; 52 mpg-US)"
What's the US bit about? I assume it's not an American reference since that's inappropriate in this instance for a vehicle that isn't available over there? Thanks Jenova2015:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, perhaps you could give me your opin8on on my recent edits to the article since I removed the tag you put up? I'm not done yet but your opinion would be useful to me. Thanks Jenova2018:00, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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Sebastian Vettel started the race from pole position, leading into the first corner and for the majority of the race en route to victory. He was not without pressure though, as the Lotus of Kimi Räikkönen climbed the field, having started in eleventh place, and challenged for the lead before finishing second. Räikkönen's team-mate Romain Grosjean took the first podium finish of his career by finishing third, after having a strong start and quickly moving into second place by overtaking Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber. Räikkönen passed Grosjean for second place roughly half-way through the race, being on a better tyre strategy. Hamilton started on the front row, but pitstop errors and degrading tyres left him eighth; his McLaren teammate, Jenson Button, retired with two laps remaining.
As a consequence of the race, Sebastian Vettel took the lead in the Drivers' Championship from Lewis Hamilton. He became the fourth driver to top the standings from four races, and also the fourth race winner. Hamilton remained second, four points behind Vettel, whilst Webber jumped in front of Button to move into third with his fourth consecutive fourth place. Webber was just one point behind Hamilton, and Button was only five points behind him; Nico Rosberg was fifth. The Constructors' Championship was now lead by Red Bull, who also took the lead from McLaren (who were now nine points behind them). Lotus F1 moved up from sixth to third in the standings after their first podium. Ferrari fell to fourth whilst Mercedes remained fifth.
The race's opponents described the decision to hold the race despite ongoing protests and violence as one of the most controversial Grands Prix in the sport's sixty-year history.
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By winning the Monaco Grand Prix, Mark Webber (here leading Nico Rosberg on the final lap) became the sixth different winner in as many races, making this the most open F1 season on record.
* Lewis Hamilton (1:21.707) was disqualified from the qualifying session, and sent to the back of the grid after stewards deemed he did not have enough fuel in his car, following the session; Hamilton had stopped on track following his qualifying lap. Hamilton excluded from qualifying results; Maldonado on pole
† Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying.
‡ Schumacher did not start a flying lap during the third part of qualifying.
§ Kobayashi stopped at the end of the second part of qualifying, and was not permitted to compete in the third part.
† Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying.
‡ Pastor Maldonado (1:15.245) was given a ten-place grid penalty for an avoidable collision with Sergio Pérez in the third free practice session. He was also given a five-place grid penalty for a change of gearbox. Maldonado takes grid penalty after Perez incident
Daimler limousine This section is in a list format that may be better presented using prose
Hi, curious to know why you go to all that trouble when you could simply remedy the bad (? as you see it) section yourself? Eddaido (talk) 10:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
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Lewis Hamilton extended the 2012 season's record by becoming the seventh different winner is as many races at the 2012 Canadian Grand Prix. At the following race in Valencia, Fernando Alonso broke the sequence by taking his second win of the year.
Formula One, abbreviated to F1, is the highest class of open-wheeledauto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets.
The first Grand Prix was held in 1950 at Silverstone; since then 68 circuits have hosted a Grand Prix. Circuits such as the Nürburgring have hosted Grands Prix using different configurations. The first race at the circuit used the 22 kilometres (14 mi) circuit, but concerns over safety meant that more recent Grands Prix have used a shorter, safer circuit. F1 circuits were predominately in Europe during the early years of the championship, as the sport has expanded so has the location of its circuits. New circuits have been used in Asia and America, the change has been a recent occurrence. Of the 20 circuits that will host a Grand Prix in 2012, nearly half were not on the calendar before 1999.
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The 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix (formally the Formula 1 ING Magyar Nagydíj 2008) was a Formula One motor race held on August 3, 2008, at the Hungaroring in Mogyoród, near Budapest, Hungary. It was the 11th race of the 2008 Formula One season. Contested over 70 laps, the race was won by Heikki Kovalainen for the McLaren team, from a second position start. Timo Glock finished second in a Toyota car, with Kimi Räikkönen third in a Ferrari. It was Kovalainen's first Formula One victory, which made him the sport's 100th driver to win a World Championship race, and it was Glock's first podium finish.
The majority of the race consisted of a duel between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa, who drove for McLaren and Ferrari, respectively. Hamilton started from pole position but was beaten at the first corner by Massa, who passed him around the outside. The two championship rivals began a battle for the lead that was resolved when Hamilton sustained a punctured tyre just over halfway through the race, giving Massa a lead of more than 20 seconds over Kovalainen. The Ferrari's engine, however, failed with three laps remaining, allowing the McLaren driver to win. Räikkönen set the race's fastest lap in the other Ferrari, but was hampered by a poor qualifying performance and was stuck behind Fernando Alonso (Renault) and Glock in turn for almost all of the race.
As a consequence of the race, Hamilton extended his lead in the World Drivers' Championship to five points over Räikkönen, with Massa a further three behind. Robert Kubica, who finished eighth after finding his BMW Sauber car uncompetitive at the Hungaroring, slipped to 13 points behind Hamilton, ahead of teammate Nick Heidfeld and Kovalainen. In the World Constructors' Championship, McLaren passed BMW Sauber for second position, 11 points behind Ferrari.
About this edit. I'm not a very technical person when it comes to cars so i'm unsure how to clarify that. The measurements aren't American as this car isn't sold there. I'm pretty sure they're imperial measurements. Does that help? Thanks ツ Jenova20(email)15:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
Not too sure what your complaint is with my edits of the template... Perhaps your comment is aimed at some of the previous edits? Warren (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Some wafels for you!
Funny, i still call these waffles (is that a British spelling thing?). Thanks a lot for the edit you made to C3 Picasso, it was very much appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your day! ツ Jenova20(email)17:30, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
Template bug
I remember you understand conversion templates. You may remember I don't.
I came across one that translates square feet into acres and uses continental European dividers for the acres, even in English language articles.
6,135,630 square feet (140.855 acres)
The English and Americans would write both numbers using commas as dividers, thus:
6,135,630
140,855
Is this something you are able to correct please? (Or is this problem something on my own computer?) And thank you. Regards Charles01 (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for making the necessary adjustments following the change in the info box template. Something seems to have gone wrong on Daimler Fifteen.
I notice you have also changed some references on Daimler New Fifteen. They were to printed material available in good public libraries and you have changed them to a website which only sells images of them which is by its nature (the website I mean) a very temporary thing. Do you think that is wise? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry we have misunderstandings. Daimler Fifteen is in a muddle following your edit. New Fifteen: The references were to a printed source not to a web source. You have changed them to a web source, those "for sale" ads will die sooner or later and the source you have put in will no longer exist. The source I had put in will remain in libraries for a long time. Geddit? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 05:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I can't get my explanation across to you. What I'll do is go and start fixing things myself. Please would you write and tell me if what I do makes you unhappy. Eddaido (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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The 2012 Belgian Grand Prix took place at the historic Spa-Francorchamps circuit. Before the event, it was announced that the circuit's contract to host the race has been extended to 2015.
Formula One (F1) is the highest class of open-wheeledauto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors.
Safety standards have improved since the first World Championship Grand Prix at Silverstone in 1950, where there was no medical back-up or safety measures, in case of an accident. It was not until the 1960s these were first introduced, as helmets and overalls became mandatory and the FIA assumed responsibility for safety at the circuits. Steps were taken to improve the safety of the Formula One car in the 1970s; the cockpit opening was enlarged allowing the driver to escape quicker in the event of an accident and outside mirrors became mandatory. The 1980s saw further improvement in the structure of the Formula One car, with the monocoque being made out of carbon fibre instead of aluminium, increasing protection upon impact. Following the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994, a number of measures were introduced in an attempt to slow the cars down, including the prohibition of traction control systems. Grooved tyres were introduced in 1998 instead of racing slick tyres to reduce cornering speed. Safety measures continued to be introduced into the 21st century, with a number of circuits having their configuration changed to improve driver safety.
This list includes drivers who have died during a FIA World Championship race weekend, and those who have died while driving a Formula One car outside of the World Championship. Track marshals and other race attendees who have died as a result of these accidents are not included in the list. Forty-nine drivers have died driving a Formula One car, with Cameron Earl being the first in 1952. Thirty-two of the drivers died during a World Championship Grand Prix race weekend, six during a test session and eleven during a non-championship Formula One event. The Indianapolis Motor Speedway has seen the most fatalities; seven drivers have died there during the course of the Indianapolis 500. Fifteen drivers died in the 1950s; fourteen in the 1960s; twelve in the 1970s; four in the 1980s and two in the 1990s. No driver has suffered a fatal accident since 1994,[A] making this the longest period in F1 history without a driver fatality. Only two Formula One Champions have died while racing or practicing in Formula One, Jochen Rindt in 1970, and Ayrton Senna in 1994. Rindt is the only driver to win the championship posthumously.
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The 2012 Singapore Grand Prix (formally known as the 2012 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix) is a Formula One motor race that took place at the Marina Bay Street Circuit in Marina Bay, Singapore on 23 September 2012 as the fourteenth round of the 2012 season. The race was the thirteenth time that a Singapore Grand Prix has been held, and the fifth time it was a round of the Formula One World Championship.
Lewis Hamilton started the race from pole. Sebastian Vettel won the race, his second of the season, after Hamilton's gearbox failed early in the race.
Race reduced from 61 laps to 59 laps due to the two-hour time limit.
* Both Mercedes cars failed to record a flying lap time during Q3. Thus, they were ranked in car number order.
† Mark Webber (10th, + 47.175) was given a 20-second time penalty post-race for "gaining an advantage by going off the track" when passing Kamui Kobayashi. Webber loses point after post-race penalty
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Formula One, abbreviated to F1, is the highest class of open-wheeledauto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, usually held on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual championships, one for drivers and one for constructors.
A red flag is shown when there has been an accident or the track conditions are poor enough to warrant the race being stopped. The flags are displayed by the marshals at various points around the circuit. Following a red flag being shown, the exit of the pit lane is closed and cars must proceed to the starting grid slowly, without overtaking. From 2005, a ten-minute warning is given before the race is resumed behind the safety car, which leads the field for a lap before it returns to the pit lane. Previously, the race was restarted in race order from the penultimate lap before the red flag was shown. If a race is unable to be resumed, "the results will be taken at the end of the penultimate lap before the lap during which the signal to suspend the race was given." If 75 per cent of the race distance has not been completed and the race cannot be resumed, half points are awarded. No points are awarded if the race cannot be restarted and less than two laps have been completed.
* Sebastian Vettel (1:41.073) was disqualified from the qualifying session, and sent to the back of the grid after stewards deemed he did not have enough fuel in his car, following the session; Vettel had stopped on track following his qualifying lap. Vettel sent to back of the grid for fuel infringement
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Re: Alfa article changes
Why pointless? The infoboxes I edited were far from the standard style and they did not have a similar look to those that you suggested. On the other hand, once a text is between brackets, I think there is no need for italic writing too. BaboneCar (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
You say there was nothing wrong, but they used bulleted lists for engines, paragraph breaks instead of line breaks and unnecessary bold formatting for transmissions, all of which are not seen in any car article infobox on Wikipedia. So while this is exactly what I try, to "make the articles have similar look", I see no point in your message. I rather expected you to notice these rarities and correct them, as you have also previously done changes to these articles. BaboneCar (talk) 16:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I didn't ask you to fix the changes I made. And I don't think you should revert my edits, because the infoboxes I edited are now pretty much in accordance with the conventions you mentioned, while the previous versions are not. The fact that there are different styles is not an argument for not following conventions. If I'll fix the other generations too it's up to me. However, if you wanted to be more convincing about it, my opinion is that you should adopt a friendlier tone. BaboneCar (talk) 17:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I skip the long series of insults you have recently sent to me and recommend you to read the message posted on the Alfa Romeo 156 talk page, regarding the repeated links policy. BaboneCar (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Volvo 200 Series
Thank you for updating the table I contributed to the article Volvo 200 Series. It has been many years, but I noticed the difference right away.
I see there was an intermediate edit which narrowed the padding but also prevented the 1980 244/245 DL model information from rendering within the appropriate cell--it was an easy fix.
I imagine your overhaul to wikitable format was a bit more involved--rest assured it is a real improvement and it looks terrific.
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The early season was tumultuous, with seven different drivers winning the first seven races of the championship; a record for the series. It was not until the European Grand Prix in June that a driver, Ferrari'sFernando Alonso, won his second race of the year, and with it, emerged as a championship contender. Alonso maintained his hold on the championship lead for the next seven races, taking his third win in Germany and finishing on the podium in the United Kingdom, Italy and Singapore. However, costly first-lap retirements in Belgium and Japan allowed his rivals to catch up, and defending World ChampionSebastian Vettel — like Alonso, a two-time winner — took the lead in the sixteenth race of the season. Vettel, too, encountered difficulties throughout the season; contact with a backmarker left him to finish outside the points in Malaysia, while alternator failures at the European and Italian Grands Prix cost him valuable points and exclusion from qualifying in Abu Dhabi led him to start from the pit lane. Vettel entered the final race of the season with a thirteen-point lead over Alonso. Alonso needed a podium finish to stand any chance of becoming World Drivers' Champion, but in a race of attrition that finished under the safety car, Vettel finished in sixth place, scoring enough points to win his third consecutive championship, becoming the third driver to do so. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull Racing secured their third consecutive title when Sebastian Vettel finished second at the United States Grand Prix.
In addition to seeing seven drivers win the first seven races, the 2012 season broke several records. The calendar for the season included twenty races, breaking the previous record of nineteen, which was first set in 2005. Six current or former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970.
* Felipe Massa (7th, 1:36.937; 6th after Grosjean penalty) was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Late Massa grid penalty promotes Alonso
* Race finished under neutralised safety car conditions.
† Pastor Maldonado (6th; 1:13.174) was given a ten-place grid penalty for receiving his third reprimand of the season. This was due to missing the weigh-bridge during qualifying. [1]
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Re: Lada
It doesn't matter if the article titles are being changed. That is a navigation template for the Lada brand, not for the VAZ models. The model names you added are VAZ model names and not the Lada model names used in export markets, so they don't fit in a Lada timeline. BaboneCar (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Besides the fact that you still don't understand my explanation, the WikiProject conventions also seem to contradict what you claim. The references on the articles concerned contradict what you are saying too. You reverted my edits for the third time within 24 hours without having a solid reason for it. BaboneCar (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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The early season was tumultuous, with seven different drivers winning the first seven races of the championship; a record for the series. It was not until the European Grand Prix in June that a driver, Ferrari'sFernando Alonso, won his second race of the year, and with it, emerged as a championship contender. Alonso maintained his hold on the championship lead for the next seven races, taking his third win in Germany and finishing on the podium in the United Kingdom, Italy and Singapore. However, costly first-lap retirements in Belgium and Japan allowed his rivals to catch up, and defending World ChampionSebastian Vettel — like Alonso, a two-time winner — took the lead in the sixteenth race of the season. Vettel, too, encountered difficulties throughout the season; contact with a backmarker left him to finish outside the points in Malaysia, while alternator failures at the European and Italian Grands Prix cost him valuable points and exclusion from qualifying in Abu Dhabi led him to start from the pit lane. Vettel entered the final race of the season with a thirteen-point lead over Alonso. Alonso needed a podium finish to stand any chance of becoming World Drivers' Champion, but in a race of attrition that finished under the safety car, Vettel finished in sixth place, scoring enough points to win his third consecutive championship, becoming the third driver to do so. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull Racing secured their third consecutive title when Sebastian Vettel finished second at the United States Grand Prix.
In addition to seeing seven drivers win the first seven races, the 2012 season broke several records. The calendar for the season included twenty races, breaking the previous record of nineteen, which was first set in 2005. Six current or former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970.
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Any clue what this might be? Seen in Turkey, fibreglass body (with custom front wing) and a Tofaş gear knob inside. Five-bolt wheels, for what it's worth. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
While the hardtop looks a bit of a lash up, I wonder if the front spoiler is just a bad repair? Later Kallistas did have a strange spoiler - see here. Warren (talk) 13:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
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Alfa Romeo Arna
I'm confused by your edit on the Alfa Romeo Arna. You keep undoing the link to Nissan Motor Company, prefering a piped link to Nissan via the text "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.". You may not have noticed, but Nissan redirects to Nissan Motor Car, so perhaps you agree that Nissan was part of the joint venture, but I do not understand the need for "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.." Any reason why you can't accept the Nissan Motor Company in the lead? Here's a newspaper report for info. Warren (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
the Nissan Jidōsha K.K.. is the actual name of the Nissan company, its not invented by me but cant find the source at the moment. Whats wrong with that name? its even written in Nissan page. -->Typ932T·C18:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
As this is the English WP, what's wrong with a direct link to the Nissan WP article? Makes sense for English readers, and if they want to know more about Nissan, then as you say they can find out on the Nissan page. They even call themselves Nissan Motor Co. on their own website, so it seems a little pedantic to force the "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.." name, especially as the piped wikilink you keep changing is a redirect back to Nissan Motor Company... Warren (talk) 20:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
The entity responsible for the development of the vehicle has been the Jeep division of the American manufacturer Chrysler, as the lead itself says, in whatever particular names the latter had. Please accept this version of displaying the manufacturer name in the main infobox of the article. Also, please not that the wikiproject conventions also recommend the same style. Thank you. BaboneCar (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Which convention? and it should follow the same style of other Chrysler brands. If you change something do the all articles and dont pick articles from there from here. Its always the same story on ur edits. -->Typ932T·C18:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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It is very large. When it is opened it covers almost the entire screen. It is more aesthetical to display it this way, rather than have the screen covered by the template at the bottom of each Fiat article. I hope you will understand my suggestion. Thank you. BaboneCar (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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I am proposing that we reopen this old conversation, as I feel that it was closed in error. You're welcome to add your two cents. Cheers, Mr.choppers | ✎ 05:29, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
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It does not matter that some car articles have been mis-categorised. Many car articles are in fact correctly placed in just the intro. year cat. It is WP:POINTY to refer to mistakes in other articles to justify your own opinion. It is quite clear that Cars introduced in year XXXX is a subcategory of the appropriate decade category (XXXX automobiles). Items are always placed in the most specific category per WP:SUBCAT as mentioned above. It is one of the first things I can recall being mentioned to me some years ago on starting editing. Please feel free to raise at the project page if you don't understand how the categorisation system works. Eagleash (talk) 05:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Funny? Are you being deliberately obtuse? It is completely wrong to say that all car articles are categorised in the way you suggest. It is something I look at some of the time if I read a car article. A goodly proportion are correctly categorised but some have both the year and decade categories (incorrect). As you say, it is quite simple; items should not be placed in both the subcat and parent cat. This is quite clear at WP:SUBCAT. If you have difficulty with this please feel free to raise it at WT:CAT or at the automobiles project talk page. Eagleash (talk) 07:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
This will also be my last comment: Yes the page Category:2000s automobiles says "Automobiles that were produced in the 2000s — from 2000 to 2009". BUT further down the page you will see listed out the sub-categories. Category:Cars introduced in 2008 is quite clearly listed as a subcat. Therefore, car articles listed in that category are not listed additionally in the parent category per WP:SUBCAT. By being in the subcat it becomes 'nested' in the parent cat. I would have thought you were an editor of long-enough standing and experience to understand the relationship between sub and parent cats. Eagleash (talk) 10:11, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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One more thing: you may not care much for "rm chit-chat" as an edit summary, though I am glad to see it's taking on, but it's a lot more expressive than the automated summary generated by rollback and by Twinkle. And while I'm on that topic, this and this are unexplained, automated reverts of content edits that were obviously not vandalism--that's rollback abuse. See Wikipedia:Rollback#When_to_use_rollback. I'm not going to yank your chain anymore, but this (along with OR and WP:RS) is something you need to think about. You are of course free to use rollback in your own user space, to roll this back. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Ur edits looks like vandalism, when removing important content with edit explanation "chit chat", that central statue is important thing in Goodwood history, more important than that nonsense time list of hill climb -->Typ932T·C18:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't know why you're writing in two places. No, my edits do not look like vandalism--at least not to someone who knows what they're doing. "Central statue"? I have no idea what you're talking about: the word "statue" doesn't even occur in the article. And I also don't know what you mean with "nonsense time list of hill climb"; I certainly did not put that in there. Why are you arguing this with me? Go edit the damn article properly, and remove what is unimportant, improperly verified, promotional, trivial, whatever. If you get your head on straight and look at the history you will see that I was only there because someone with a promotional user name was there. I blocked them. Then I removed chit-chat--meaningless chatter about some featured brand, full of pretty pictures and without a single proper reference. Again, "important thing in Goodwood history" means nothing without proper sourcing. This may be about cars, but it's still in an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 18:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Because not everybody follows others talk pages, you certainly have no idea what is important and whats not, there was over 20 cite references, thats not maybe enough for you, Ill still suggest you use article talk page before making such big removes with that bad explanations. >Typ932T·C18:36, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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