User talk:Jonesey95

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Quote box

Your quote box change in Special:Diff/1260257670 removed the vertical space/padding between a quote and an author. Can this be reinstated? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:36, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. This template has been a thorn in my side for some reason; every time I make an improvement, something else goes wrong. I think I have fixed it. Please take a look. The sandbox contains the previous version, so you can compare them on the testcases page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:16, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, this looks great. Thanks Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:54, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

EngvarB

Hi, Jonesey, how are you? You've probably seen that I reverted your recent changes here, on the grounds that after two fairly recent deletion discussions both resulting in a clear keep, deletion/deprecation would need a well-publicised discussion leading to a clear consensus of a good number of participants. I'm not saying the template is perfect or that it must be kept, just that we should observe proper process before we give people a reason to make 105,000 (or however many it is) gnome edits removing it. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:25, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

I was doing fine, thanks for asking, until you reversed the consensus-based change at that template without discussing it on the template's talk page. I look forward to you, or someone else, answering the many unanswered questions that have been posted on that template's talk page over the last ten years. It's been quite a mess for over a decade, we were on the way to cleaning it up, and it has just gotten messier. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Infobox problem

Something you did in this edit caused a ParserFunction error to appear in the "Expenses" field of the infobox, as can be seen in the example infobox on the template page, as well as in the Rainforest Alliance infobox. Deor (talk) 23:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Fixed. I should have synced the sandbox with the live template before making changes. A rookie mistake. Thanks for letting me know about this error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

And thank you. Deor (talk) 00:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Accidental rollback

If you get a notif for a rollback from me, it was accidental, sorry about that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:58, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

All good. Thanks for taking the time to write a note. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:03, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

November 2024 GOCE drive award

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 4,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE November 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 00:18, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Much to be modest about, as always. Thanks, Dhtwiki. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:27, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Module:Team bracket and Module:Build bracket

Hello. I've seen that you've adjusted Module:Team bracket for use in dark mode. Can you also adjust Module:Build bracket for dark mode? That will be very nice, because this module is also frequently used and I won't make experiments with it. Can you change the code to enable a (set of) css-classes to the seed, team- score and title cekks? That will enable the use of WP:Template styles. This is used in the German Wikipedia. Greetings from Antonsusi (talk) 19:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

PitConclave wrote the code changes in question. I just used my template editor rights to implement the change after checking the testcases page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay, I'll ask there. Antonsusi (talk) 19:05, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Wikt-lang template errors

A tag has been placed on Category:Wikt-lang template errors indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:09, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Gonnym, do you want this category? If so, remove the speedy template and place {{Tracking category}} on the category page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

I didn't create it as my work is still in the sandbox phase and I try not to put in place in the public space things that aren't yet in use. But I believe it soon will be so I'll do that (for whoever reads this in the future, if I fail to do so and forget to delete the category, feel free to do so) Gonnym (talk) 09:51, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

I created it because the category was appearing on the testcases page, and there is at least one editor who is publicly and noisily sad any time templates create red-linked categories. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:38, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Linter correction

Hi Jonesey, thanks for fixing this. However, I really want to indent these quote divs. Can you specify exactly which wp:lint errors you fixed, and how I can force the divs to indent between the (start quote) and (end quote) markers? TIA. - DVdm (talk) 10:14, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

The problem was an obscure one: In most cases, div tags will cause a syntax error if they start on an indented line and end on a line with a different indentation level. Sometimes, it doesn't even work to put the ending div at the same indentation level. To indent your quote boxes, I have added margin-left: 2em; to your divs. If you want them indented on the right as well, use margin-right: 2em; – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:12, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Ah, perfect. Indentation colons in front of divs cause trouble... who would have suspected that? . I have set the div margins to 4em and reduced the innner indentation colons by two, so they look like before. But this time legit. Thanks a bunch! - DVdm (talk) 15:29, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2024 Newsletter

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Message sent by Baffle_gab1978 using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2024 (UTC).

Linter error warning in mass messenger tool

Hi Jonesey, when I sent the newsletter, the mass messenger tool warned me in big, scary, red text of a "Linter error: Background color inline style needs text color". I copied the newsletter's wikitext into the message box. Being clueless, I inserted "color: #000000";" into the header code, which squashed the error but messed up the blue border and drop-shadow! This error seems to be new; I've not seen it before when sending newsletters. How should I avoid it in future? I'm rubbish with CSS! Cheers, Baffle☿gab 23:13, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Sigh. That particular Linter error is a new one, and IMO it is both buggy and often safe to ignore. If it ends up being important, we'll need bot runs to fix it in the literally millions of places where it occurs. That said, I'll try to remember to check for it in the future so that you or other editors won't run into that confusing message. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello

…I’m just curious, in this edit summary, you changed the template from {{EngvarB}} to {{Use Nigerian English}}, with the summary, “Whatever Nigerian English is”. I’m just curious as to what you mean by this. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

I refer you to the lead of Nigerian English, which says Nigerian English is similar to American and British dialects with the same spelling. The {{Use Nigerian English}} template is supposed to provide guidance to editors about spelling and word usage, but the article provides no such assistance. See Template talk:EngvarB for a lot more in this vein, although I will warn you that it may be frustrating. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:49, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Toussaint Dubreuil

Sorry, didn't mean to be rude by undoing your edit. But a sandbox is, after all, a work in progress, so there's little point in making edits before the article is completed and publicly posted. WQUlrich (talk) 03:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I did not take it as rudeness, and thanks for the note. I understand that it is your sandbox, but the report at Wikipedia:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates does not differentiate, and it fills up rapidly if it is not pruned every day. I would guess that the report adds about 50+ entries per day, so within a month, it would become quite daunting. Please handle those nonexistent templates as soon as you are able. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I must admit, I didn't know there was a report for that...but Anomiebot is a frequent visitor to my sandbox! I shall be alert for any future incursions. WQUlrich (talk) 07:08, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!

File:Statues of Three Wise Men in the Philippines 06.jpg

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia and help to Wikipedians in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, thanks for the message! Can you please return to all of the messages that you delivered and close the bold, italic, and div markup? – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I gather it can't be fixed by automation. That's a nuisance. No worries I'll sort it shortly Redrose64 has done a few I think. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I can't think of a more appropriate gift to Jonesey than more lint to fix/collect   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  16:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I know, right? All I wanted was a nice book to read by the fire, but I couldn't be happier with 400 more Linter errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:57, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

If this is a common issue at Christmas then perhaps a bot should be coded. User:DreamRimmer has mentioned coding something. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I am not sure if this is a common problem, but I have a bot task approved to fix these types of typos or issues in mass messages, so I can definitely help with fixing any mass messages if requested. I will take care of this Christmas message, but it is bedtime here, so I will handle it tomorrow. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

It happens virtually every year, with two or three different messages. There are two main causes:

• Copying an old Christmas message up to but excluding the signature, and adding a new signature (usually as four tildes). The problem with this is that if the old sig was inside markup, the closing tags and other markup are not copied.
• Finding a template like Template:Seasonal Greetings and copying the content from the start down to the line before the line with the <noinclude> tag. The problem here is that the <noinclude> tag is directly preceded by closing markup, which is not copied.

I don't know which one applies here, which is why I asked Dr Blofeld where the original one may be found, so that I can check if it contains errors.

Both situations would be picked up by the lint errors reports at some point, but I don't like leaving them lying around in case somebody else copies the unfixed markup. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Dream Rimmer. I copied the template

from last year, but seems I chopped off the div and bolden when redesigning the card a bit. The closing div is right underneath and bold very close to signature when you delete it so you see how easily this can be done! I thought it was from my signature! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Ah, copying an old one. Some of our christmas card messages are provided in the form of templates intended for WP:SUBSTitution. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Sq vs Squ

It looks like {{sq}} is an exact copy of {{squ}}? For consistency, maybe we should move Template:WSFM to {{sq}}? Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Ugh, so many bad template naming patterns and undocumented templates. I'm sure that I looked in the category for appropriate templates before creating this one. Also {{Sqw}} already existed. What a mess. Give me a minute to poke around. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I am seeing an incomplete recent move and template creation in this mix. I'm working on tidying up. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

OK, I think I have it sorted. OCDD might want to comment. If the sq and sqw templates should be moved, a template talk page discussion might be warranted. One thing that occurs to me is that the pattern "sq" and "sqw" tends to "other" the women's teams instead of putting them on equal footing. On the other hand, {{Fb}} and its cohort have an established pattern, and it is useful to follow established patterns. See Category:Flag template system for the pattern. Some template groups spell out the whole name, like {{Flag football men's national team}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Using SQ for men and SQW for women makes them seem like the others. It’s not neutral. If instead of WSF someone wants to use SQ it’s fine as long as M and W are used at the end for neutal templates. WSF M and W were meant for the same reason. WSF since World Squash Federation is the governing body. Whether its WSF or SQ, please do ensure M and W to differentiate teams neutrally. Thank you. OCDD (talk) 19:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

HTML misnests

Congrats on getting the HTML misnests (User) list down to near empty! Meant to do more of these, but got pulled away on some other issues and never got in the groove with this set. I've asked WOSlinker if they'd get the three remaining full protected pages, otherwise the rest of the remaining dozen are not ones I understand, so will leave them to your/other gnome's knowledgeable hands. I've scanned the pages listed for the remaining 3092 HTML misnested errors in usertalk, and found that 2373/3092 (88%) of the pages are solo occurrences, so I'm hoping there's a few remaining mass messages with this error and we could get Qwerfjkl(bot) to nail those. Also it looks like the Obsoletes will dip below 1 mill later this week?/after another bot run! Looking forward to that. :) Happy holidays! Zinnober9 (talk) 05:31, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been plugging away at the User list, and I think one or two other editors have been fixing a few as well. As for the User talk list, I have found a few batches of 40 or so identical patterns, and I expect to find a few more. Most do seem to be one-offs, typically missing span tags, or small tags used around block content, or unusual circumstances. Happily, most are pretty easy to fix. The User list was at 3,800 just a year ago and 2,200 a month and a half ago, so it just takes steady effort, even for one-at-a-time edits. Fifty a day fixes 3,000 edits in just two months. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Sfnlinknb

On User:Mathglot/sandbox/Templates/Sfnlinknb Is there a way to remove the Multicolon escape error without "sending it back into mainspace" as S.A. Julio objects to? I'm not coming up with another solution beyond wrapping in pre tags to deactivate, but that's a bit too far without verifying there isn't another option at this stage. Wrapping the cats portion in {{draft categories}} (or something like it) would make sense, but I'm not sure how that would be placed. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:41, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Lots of workarounds. I picked a dumb one that works. I hope we gnomes are not bothering Mathglot too much; Mathglot is a useful editor, and gnomes taste good with ketchup. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

That's why I asked. I didn't want to get dunked in ketchup and eaten from trying something else not knowing for sure if it would work cleanly without side affects. Thanks! Zinnober9 (talk) 18:17, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Linter

Hey, @Jonesey95. Looking in getting started in some more WikiGnome activities, such as fixing Linter errors, do you have any tips that you'd like to give? Would it be worth it to learn more about CSS/HTML coding in order to find an easier fix? Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 20:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I strongly recommend starting with very easy errors, like missing end tags. First, go to Preferences -> Gadgets to make sure you have the Syntax highlighter turned on. Then go to this list of missing end tags in article space. Click on the "edit" link next to one of the articles (I find it best to command-click to get a new tab; your browser's shortcut may vary), which should take you to an article with the error highlighted. If the error is easy to fix, fix it, and provide a useful edit summary (see my contributions for examples). If you do not understand how to fix the error yet, leave it for someone else. That should get you started. See Wikipedia:Linter and its talk page history for more details. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:38, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

★Trekker (talk) wishes you Seasons Greetings! Whether you're celebrating Hanukkah, Christmas, Chrismukkah, the Solstice, Saturnalia, or anything else, this is the season to share love and joy with friends and family!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:P Aculeius/seasonal greetings/winter}} to your friends' talk pages.

★Trekker (talk) 08:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Misleading section

Thanks for improving my new template: Misleading Section. A newer user did the basics, and a more experienced user did the more complicated stuff Servite et contribuere (talk) 07:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

December blitz bling

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 1,999 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE December 2024 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Miniapolis 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Jonesey95, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, Abishe (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Question for later

Small question, no rush. Hope you are enjoying your Wiki-vacation. Is there a way to tag or "report" a template that has no documentation of usage so that it could be flagged for "needs documentation" so some could be added? I ran across {{TGVweb}} and mistook where it goes on a page due to the complete lack of usage documentation. It had been bulleted on two articles and they report a stripped div when bulleted. Reading the statement, I initially mistook it to be akin to {{stub}} that displays at the top, but upon further inspection I've discovered it's more closely associated with {{Source-attribution}}.
Thanks, happy new year. Zinnober9 (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Zinnober9: Try {{Improve documentation}}. It must be placed inside <noinclude>...</noinclude> tags, unless there is a documentation subpage, in which case it goes in there. --Redrose64 🦌 (talk) 19:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Great, that sounds like what I am seeking. Thank you! Zinnober9 (talk) 19:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Here's an example edit that I do all the time, typically for uncategorized, undocumented templates. Make sure to put the noinclude tag immediately after the template content, on the same line, and then start the documentation template on the next line. Creating a documentation subpage is better, but that can be done in a subsequent edit without breaking anything (and a select few editors really don't like separate /doc pages for certain template types, and I got tired of trying to persuade them otherwise). – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Dusky dolphin

Hello, I just submitted the article to FAC. Would you be able to clean up the formatting of the references. Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Done. Happy to do it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Template:The Popular User Award

Please leave the template like that, unless you will cause an edit war. Raph Williams65 (talk) 22:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

If you want to experiment with broken syntax, please do so in your own User space. The page was showing up on multiple error reports; we are trying to keep template space free of syntax errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Education by force?

Hello and thank you for your edit to my user page. As you noted, I do mind, and I would have preferred you educate me about the topic of "linter errors" which I had never heard of before, with a comment on said page rather than editing my page for me. I find this weird.

Good day.

Kether83 (talk) 15:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

That is why I linked to the Special page in my edit summary; you can learn all about Linter syntax errors from there. The specific errors on your page were obsolete <strike>...</strike> tags and an unclosed <p> tag; the rendering of your user page should not have changed at all. With three million errors to fix, prior notification would cause far too much noise on editors' talk pages and on their watchlists. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Template:Today in AD and AH (and AM and SH)

And for your net trick, by any chance are you up for rewriting these templates as navbars? (because, in sidebar form, they are not displayed to the large majority of visitors). 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

{{Infobox calendar date today}} would probably do, though it would be better if it had the option to suppress irrelevant calendars?

let's keep the discussion in one place: user talk:Gonnym#template:Infobox calendar date today --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:23, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't know how {{navbar}} would be useful in this context. It is used in some of the templates, but "rewriting these templates as navbars" does not make sense to me. If you meant {{navbox}}, that template is not visible on mobile either.

I don't have an opinion on rewriting them or using a different base template. My main interest was in moving them to reasonable names so that they were not improperly stored as subpages of a redirect. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, navbox, sorry. And I didn't realise that they are suppressed too. . 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Red Links

Why are red links okay? Esagurton (talk) 14:56, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I linked to Wikipedia:Red link on your talk page. You removed my message, which is an acknowledgement that you have read the message and are aware of its contents (see WP:REMOVED for more details). Please read Wikipedia:Red link. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Discussion about "Label" or "distributor"

Hi. The discussion remains no further comment since last year. If you're interested, feel free to give your input, as well as Simplifying "Release history" tables discussion. 2001:D08:2951:5D13:181B:6FF1:4587:5831 (talk) 09:16, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Query about Edit to the Kaiserreich Wiki on August 14th regarding a Linter error-detection bug

Hi Jonesey95, it appears as if you edited our "Box" template back in August of last year, seeking to work around a Linter error detection bug - judging by the username and note left with the edit. Unfortunately the edit broke the template, presumably unintentionally. Frankly the matter of Linter errors is above my head, but instead of just undoing the edit I'm reaching out in the hopes of there being a way to both fix the page and avoid the error. We'd appreciate it if you could fix the page, otherwise I'll just undo the edit. Here's the template page in question: https://kaiserreich.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Box. Thanks, Flamefang (talk) 03:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that I have never visited that wiki. My guess is that my edit was included as attribution when that page was imported from another wiki. Ask the technical people at that wiki what "w:c:kaiserreich>Jonesey95‎" means in the edit summary; that might help you track down the source of the edit, and it may also help you determine if that page has dependencies that need to be imported or modified. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:55, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Judging by the page history the edit in question is https://kaiserreich.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Box?diff=42159&oldid=39750 the time, date and edit summary of which correspond exactly with our https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Box&diff=prev&oldid=1240325678 so it's definitely imported from here to fandom. As for "w:c:kaiserreich>Jonesey95", this is a link to the non-existent user page, required for attribution under CC BY-SA. Some of the people at WP:VPT should be able to explain its format, but the "kaiserreich" part definitely indicates the specific domain within Fandom, and "Jonesey95" is of course yourself. I would say that if Fandom choose to import pages from Wikipedia, the imported page becomes Fandom's maintenance burden, not ours. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 15:12, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Taking you up on the lint thing again

Hi. I'm back! Can you give this mass message a once over for errors? I am hoping to get it out ASAP. Thank you! Julie JSFarman (talk) 02:35, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for asking. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

I may have messed it up in my constant tweaking. I got a message saying there was a linter error before I hit send. Would you mind giving it another check? (Sorry and thanks again.) JSFarman (talk) 20:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Done; I have my Lint-checker set up to ignore a buggy condition that the mass message system still checks. I also tweaked the image to make it look nicer (IMO); feel free to undo that part. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Message sent! It looks so much better. Thank you x 100000000! JSFarman (talk) 22:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

Humpback

Hello. Sorry I interrupted your CE, I'm done for now. LittleJerry (talk) 23:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

No worries. I've been doing bits of it at a time. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

How does my edit broke the template?

Hi

You can see the same edit in other template in category section. Like {{Infobox tectonic plate/doc}}. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 21:09, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Compare

<!-- Categories below this line and interwikis at Wikidata, Thanks -->

and

<!-- Categories below this line, please; interwikis at Wikidata -->

Why my text breaks the category? Although they have the same structure.

<!-- Please place categories where indicated at the bottom of this page and interwikis at Wikidata (see [[Wikipedia:Wikidata]]) --> cannot break categories as it is on the top of the page.

"<!-- -->" makes them comments. So, they should have no effect. Shkuru Afshar (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

You removed a pipe, which removed categories from the template. Please edit carefully. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:03, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Also, your edit to infobox tectonic plate/doc had a typo in it, which I fixed. Please preview and check the results of your edits. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:07, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

January 2025 GOCE drive award

		The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Jonesey95 for copy edits totaling over 8,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2025 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 12:02, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Sportsperson infobox

The infobox now shows the medal template as purple after your change. Could you fix it? MarqueesCalaway (talk) 20:40, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

When reporting a problem, always link to an example page. I am looking at Template:Infobox_sportsperson#Examples in both regular and dark mode, and it looks fine. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:58, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Yes but in this case, Bryan Snyder, people use different colors to show college/professional teams and however you changed the template made it to where these colors no longer change. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 02:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for linking to an example. That helped me figure out the interaction between the two infobox templates. I think the problem is fixed now, but if you notice any other articles that are not working right, please contact me. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:46, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

I believe the issues is fixed. I do see the show and hide button do not change colors now, but that can be overlooked. Thank you. MarqueesCalaway (talk) 13:58, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Infobox neighborhood quarter

Re [1]: I considered Template:Infobox settlement but it is unusable. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:31, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

We'll see. I suspect it would work just fine. Feel free to link to a sandbox or draft page where you are trying to use this new template or trying to translate the French template. I think we can make Infobox settlement work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:36, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Here's a Sandbox mock-up. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

I've gotten it pretty close. If you turn Infobox quarter into a wrapper for infobox settlement, you should be able to style it as you please. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:00, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! It seems very odd to have the map at the top when it is conventionally at the bottom. (I am curious as to what created the blue bar above the module.) I have to be prepared to defend the use of Template:Infobox settlement when the article comes up for review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:55, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

The blue bar above the module is due to my clumsy hacking of {{Infobox public transit/sandbox}} for use as a child module; it was not set up for that purpose and needs some refinement. I'm not sure what you mean about the map placement; if you look at Paris or Vienna or any other settlement article, the map is near the top of the infobox, before the labeled items. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:44, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

The French version of Paris has the map down the bottom. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:24, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

OK. When you said "conventionally at the bottom", I thought you meant here at the English Wikipedia, where this discussion is happening. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:35, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:07, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Module Gallery

Do you know if this edit might have broken the template Gallery on 300+ pages? Something's messing with the alts and the timing's about right. Zinnober9 (talk) 04:50, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

It appears to have broken the use of {{FIAV}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:40, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

I've messaged that editor. Still not sure how what they changed is causing the error, but hopefully FIAV/alt usage is enough to identify the issue and be fixed. Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Resolved. Zinnober9 (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Why that revert version over another? I see the conversation at Template_talk:Gallery#Caption_not_accepting_external_links, so I realize there's other issues at play, but I'm just surprised you reverted to the version with these 300+ errors, and not one further back without. Did Arthurfragoso fix something more majorly seen and undoing that was less desirable? Zinnober9 (talk) 03:25, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

I just went farther back and will let Arthurfragoso figure it out with the help of the new testcases. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:29, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok. I hope there's a simple solution and wish Arthurfragoso/anyone else figuring out these updates to Gallery good luck.

A little unrelated but since we are talking, it's looking like HTML5-incompatible misnesting errors will be nearly all addressed and eliminated by this time next week or next. Exciting to have the Higher priority errors nearly all gone!! According to Wayback it looks like we had about 40-50k High priority errors in late 2022 when I started joining in on this project. Progress!! :) Zinnober9 (talk) 04:59, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Indeed. I have been chipping away at them over the past few months. They are mostly one-by-one errors, but sometimes I find a batch of 5 to 30 identical ones that I can process quickly. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:00, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Infobox settlement/doc

Per your edit, the text "variation of the US" is too vague, does it mean "USA" or "United States" or something else? Please clarify this documentation. Thanks!!!! • Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:44, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done. The code is in {{Infobox settlement/pref}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:12, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Module:Routemap

I added a meters-to-feet conversion to the {{BScvt}} subsection, but I can't figure out how to change m2f to just m in the output. Thanks in advance for your help. Useddenim (talk) 18:03, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

It looks like the next step is to add one or more testcases at {{BSsplit/testcases}}. Once I see what you are trying to do, I may be able to tweak the code to get the output you want. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:31, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Never mind. You don't need new code. This is what you need: {{BScvt|150|in=ft|x}} →

150 m

490 ft

– Jonesey95 (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

No, that's ↑ not it. Currently {{BScvt}} converts metres to yards, which it appropriate for the lengths of tunnels and bridges, but I also want the option of metres to feet (the standard measure of elevations).

{{BScvt|100|in=m}} → 100 m 109 yd

{{BScvt|100|in=m2f}} → 100 mi 161 km

but the output should display "m", not "m2f". Useddenim (talk) 00:38, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

See above. 150 m, 490 ft. That is the output you are requesting, you just have to ask for it in a backwards way, per the template's rather limited documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:38, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

You don't seem to be getting it. |in=feet converts feet to metres. When |in=m is specified, metres is converted to yards. I want to also be able to convert metres to feet. Useddenim (talk) 02:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Maybe I am misreading this: {{BScvt|150|in=ft|x}} →

150 m

490 ft

. As far as I can tell, that is taking 150 m as an input and outputting 490 ft. The unnamed parameter tells the template to do the reverse of what it would normally do: show the ft/m conversion, but read the number as meters and do a m/ft conversion. If that is not what is happening, it would be great if you or someone else would explain what is happening there. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

You're right. It seems that the code was significantly rewritten when it was converted to Lua and merged into the Routemap module. Useddenim (talk) 15:03, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Infobox pharaoh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menkauhor_Kaiu

Thanks for undoing my change - can you suggest an alternative to div then? The `center` template perhaps? The inconsistency in these infoboxes is driving me insane. I wish the data within them was actually coherent so that the information can be used outside of a visual context. 2A00:23C8:2433:8F01:6C6E:36B9:8A2C:7AB9 (talk) 12:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

What is your goal? The div tags appear to be working fine. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Dusky dolphin

Hello. Would you be able to make sure the source formatting is consistant? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 14:03, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:26, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Insource searches

Is there an existing cheat sheet/guide for insource searching syntax? Wanted to see if I could do a search with a "font face" closer, but haven't been able to get that to work. Signatures I've gotten to work and submitted so far have been mostly from copying and adjusting from similarly built existing searches from the sig sub page, but I keep running into font faces. Would like to build up my insource search term syntax knowledge so I'm better at free handing it rather treating them all as than fill in the blanks and praying it works. Zinnober9 (talk) 22:58, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Try this somewhat technical page first: Help:Searching/Regex. If that is gibberish to you, paste an example here of what you want to search for, and I'll use it as an example to show you how to search for it. Use <syntaxhighlight>...</syntaxhighlight> tags to wrap your example code. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:42, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I had found

<font face="Viner Hand ITC" color="2F4F4F">'''Ed [[User:the_ed17/Newcomers|<font color="000080">17</font>]] [[User talk:the_ed17|<font color="2F4F4F">for President</font>]]  <sub>''[[User:the_ed17/Vote|<font color="2F4F4F">Vote for Ed</font>]]''</sub></font face color>'''

and I've seen ed17 often on various pages (but with varying sigs), so thought it was worth trying to search for the phrase

 >Ed</font>]]''</sub></font face color>'''

(or something similar) to see if it were worth adding but had something off with this search . I'm not seeing the adjustment I need at this moment from that help page but rather sure it was in the font face portion since this also was invalid. Will look at the help page some more tomorrow, but a working case would be great if it suits you. I had found this sig on User:The ed17/Archives/9/A, but cleared that earlier. Just in case that were the last page with it, I've temporarily stuck it on my sandbox so there's one result to find. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

You have a stray > character at the start of the second string that does not appear in the first one. In your linked search, you also put an extra \ at the end of the search string. Once you remove those, you only need to put a backslash in front of each metacharacter:

insource:/Ed\<\/font>\]\]\'\'\<\/sub>\<\/font face color>\'\'\'/

The metacharacters that need to be preceded by \ in insource search strings are

 . + * ? | { [ ] ( ) " \ # @ < ~

The syntax is very picky. If you make one little error, you may not get the results you want. Come back for help any time. And for bonus fun, here's a broader search for "</font face color>" – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I had thought it had been something awkward with having a two/three word tag, but no, the usual nemesis "extra \" strikes again. I see from correcting those searches that this wasn't as fruitful a sig search as I'd hoped I was finding. I'll hit those manually since 10 pages or fewer. Yesterday's bigger finds and the knowledge from this conversation make up for it though. Thanks, Zinnober9 (talk) 21:06, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

2025

@Jonesey95 Can you please clarify the edits you reverted in List of political parties in India? What is the problem with the template nowrap? Was the table not looking better in the previous revision? XYZ 250706 (talk) 05:23, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

As far as I know, I did not revert any edits at that article. I removed content that was causing syntax errors. {{Nowrap}} is an inline template that can't be used on block content. In other words, it can't be used around content that has line breaks (multiple lines) in it. Doing so causes a syntax error. As its documentation indicates, nowrap should be used sparingly. If you decide to use it, make sure its content does not contain any line breaks or other block content. That may mean enclosing individual lines or small strings of text rather than whole sections. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

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Dash spacing for Michelin Chicago

You recently had an edit on the List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Chicago where you made a small change to dash spacing. Do you have the MOS that refers to this change. I'd like to add it to the Michelin Guide style guide. Thanks. Expandinglight5 (talk) 18:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

I think MOS:YEARRANGE is what you are looking for. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:58, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Edit summary comment

Hi - re this edit summary, when I source code edit I use the toolbar option for striking text; the problem (?) appears to be with the toolbar. If you're aware of a better, automated way to strike text, am all ears, although I see no visual difference in the changes you made. If there's a particular legacy issue, again, would appreciate being pointed in the direction of an MoS guideline or some such. FWIW neither Help:Wikitext#Strikethrough nor Help:HTML_in_wikitext#s make mention of a problem using <s>...</s>. Thanks and regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 02:23, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for those links. I'm surprised that nobody had updated those pages since Linter tag misnesting started being flagged by the MediaWiki software seven years ago. I have done so now. If you want to use the toolbar's <s>...</s> tag insertion method, you could select each line of text individually, which should give you results like those in this edit. Pinging Left guide and PhilKnight, who may also benefit from these links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Goldsztajn (talk) 06:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Dusky dolphin again

Hello, I plan on renominating the article soon. Does the prose look okay? LittleJerry (talk) 16:25, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

When I stopped by to tidy the citations, it looked like someone had done a nice copy edit. I see that it is on the GOCE Requests list. Someone, possibly me, will get to it relatively soon. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:28, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

2022 Italian election

Why did you undo my changes by removing the maps I had inserted? Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:15, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

You removed table captions, which are required for accessibility, and left unmatched div tags. It looked like a disruptive edit to me. Please be more careful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:17, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok, but it was enough to correct my mistake, it was clear that it was not a disruptive edit...--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:24, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Since your edit had so many errors and changes, it was not clear what your intention was. Reverting was the cleanest way to give you a chance to implement the changes in the way you want, while ensuring that the syntax is balanced and the page complies with MOS. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok, I should have fixed it anyway.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:29, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

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