Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red

Woman of the day: a new one each day from our women's biographies

Humaniki

Does anyone know why Humaniki hasn't updated since 27 Jan? Dsp13 (talk) 00:56, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Dsp13: I've notified Maximilianklein by e-mail and on his talk page but have not yet received any response. Perhaps The Earwig can tale a look but there might be a problem with the server used by Humaniki. We have experienced similar problems in the past but they have usually been resolved within a few weeks.

In this connection, our Metrics page shows that while January with 1524 new women's biographies was quite a good month, February with only 1232 was the lowest ever. We really need to do more to encourage participation.Ipigott (talk) 09:12, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikidata seems to be having an issue generating dumps — see phab:T386401 — so it's probably an issue upstream of Humaniki. Looks like they are working on it, and hopefully Humaniki will automatically pick up the new data when it's available. — The Earwig (talk) 18:25, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, The Earwig. Good to hear it¨s not a Humaniki problem. Hope it will soon be fixed.--Ipigott (talk) 09:36, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

The dumps issue has been resolved (see this week's Wikidata Update), so there should be statistics available later this week, depending on exactly when it became available for the Humaniki team to work on. Oronsay (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Let's hope that solves the problem. Max Klein has also replied to my e-mail and says he will look into it when he had time.--Ipigott (talk) 08:20, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

There may still be problems. The Wikidata Update links to phab:T386401, where the final comment ends the full dumps are still missing, both in JSON and in RDF format… I have no idea why :/. TSventon (talk) 06:01, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

• The latest news from Max Klein is that he hopes to be able to deal with Humaniki the week after next. (cc Oronsay)--Ipigott (talk) 08:13, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

The latest updates to phab:T386401 suggest that the problem at Wikidata has still not been solved. TSventon (talk) 08:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, @Ipigott and @TSventon. Until the Wikidata dumps resume, there can be no Humaniki updates and so no statistics update to our WiR homepage. Let's hope we don't have much longer to wait. Oronsay (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

• So perhaps there's really no problem with Humaniki. Maximilianklein should first check to see if more recent wikidumps are available.--Ipigott (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

• The software engineers are still working on the problem. phab:T386401 has now been closed as a duplicate in favour of phab:T386255. TSventon (talk) 09:01, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
• phab:T386255 has been closed as resolved, so hopefully Maximilianklein will find some usable data shortly. TSventon (talk) 18:21, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

  Hello, I just logged back into to try and debug this. It looks to me that Humaniki successfully ran on 2025-03-18. The data from that snapshot look normal. @Ipigott. The most recent dump data I see accessed is, 2025-03-18, too. What other questions can I answer? Maximilianklein (talk) 23:25, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

• Maximilianklein, thankyou, I agree the data look normal, but it was a good idea to check after the hiatus. TSventon (talk) 04:48, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

• Thank you< Maximilianklein, for taking a look. The problem seems to have been the lack of wikidata dumps over the past few weeks. Now that this has been resolved, everything now seems to be working fine. I don't think there are any other problems.--Ipigott (talk) 10:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

  Great this is back! (I've been spending this year trying to expand wikidata coverage of women from less well represented countries, so it was nice to be able to see the effect in Humaniki.) Thanks very much to people here for keeping an eye on it and communicating so helpfully. Dsp13 (talk) 10:23, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Alice Wilson (actress)

Would anyone be willing to help on this draft about a supporting actress in films? FloridaArmy (talk) 12:10, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I added a short biographical note for her. but you should find more reliable sources. what I wrote is just an example of what you should write and how to cite it. Hounaam (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I found some information about her family on findmygrave.com https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/23553454/alice-browning Moondust342 (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

I found cause of death, which I added (and cited), but it was quite challenging to find sources. Zxm92 (talk) 15:23, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

There is an entry on the Italian Wikipedia here. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:13, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

This is written in French. Hounaam (talk) 23:37, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Eva Díaz (art historian)

I'm afraid I got caught in a noob loop here in drafting this one-- the correspondence is now quite byzantine and the page is still not live. Any thoughts on how to improve it's chances of approval? With what I've learned I then wrote and published a Felicity D. Scott page. I'd love to get the Diaz subject published so I can move on to drafting Wiki articles on other notable modern and contemporary female art and design historians, curators, and critics like Carrie Lambert-Beatty, Suzanne Hudson, Judith Rodenbeck, and Lauren O'Neill-Butler. But the barriers to the success of bringing these women into visibility are quite high if they are not a) chairs of their department or b) editors of journals, given the current level of correspondence about notability regarding Diaz, which now seems quite well established in the draft article though labyrinthine in the voluminous talk page. Any help you could offer would be wonderful. Avengers23 (talk) 14:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, Avengers23, for bringing this problem to our attention. As a result of all the additions you have made to the article, I have now moved it to mainspace. Reviewers are often confused by the presence of sources closely related to the subject. It makes reviewing easier if you limit the references to reliable independent sources and include others under External links. Please let me know if you run into further problems. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for this really important information. Just to clarify: interviews with the subjects, even if in reliable publications, are better left out of the references and should be put in External links, correct? This would have saved me so much time to know previously! Here I was thinking that notability was how many journalists deem a subject worthy of an interview and profile, but I think I understand better now that this can be construed as being the subject's own words/writings. Phew, what a journey on this one. I also just noticed Martha Schwendener (an academic and regular contributor to the New York Times) doesn't have a wiki page. I have my work cut out for me! I looked at Women in Red: Resources for a master list of women in need of pages, is there such a thing? I'd love to help as I can! Avengers23 (talk) 15:15, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

We have a ton of lists over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Redlist index! The lists are broken down into categories such as nationality/occupation/time period/etc.

Here's the lists for art historians, critics (and art critics), curators, and costume historians. :) ForsythiaJo (talk) 18:19, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

The art historians list is very odd - mostly derived from Wikidata, & continental Europeans born before 1900. Frankly I doubt most of them are notable, and you would certainly not find many sources in English. Meanwhile most of the more recent female art historians whose books I use don't have articles and aren't on the list. Johnbod (talk) 18:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

That's exactly the problem I was facing, ForsythiaJo-- influential women whose books I have do not have Wiki entries, which is a shame. I'm going to try to keep correcting that, and with influential female curators/art critics too. Avengers23 (talk) 21:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

Perfect! I'm going to see if I can fill in gaps there. The Felicity D. Scott entry I wrote is actually for an architectural historian so I will look that up separately. Avengers23 (talk) 21:44, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

• @Avengers23: Informative coverage in published books is acceptable but you should try to find at least three reliable independent sources before you create a biography. For women who have died over the past 20 years or so, digitally accessible obituaries in acceptable newspapers and specialized journals are often a good source. Biographical dictionaries can also be useful. The Redlist index is provided as an aid to exploring the significance of the names mentioned but it is certainly not a guide to notability. The so-called crowd-sourced (CW) lists can sometimes be more helpful, particularly if names are backed by sources. Hope this helps.--Ipigott (talk) 11:57, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

Kirsty Coventry - lack of citations

Now that Kirsty Coventry has been elected president of the International Olympic Committee, there is an urgent need to improve her biography, in particular by adding pertinent inline citations where they are needed. As I am not an expert in the world of sports, I would prefer those who are to make the necessary changes.--Ipigott (talk) 09:26, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ipigott, agreed. Coventry's bio looks a lot like the figure skating bios I work on, so I may take it on, although I don't know that much about swimming or swimmers. Things are a little busy right now, but it's definitely something to tackle before next year's Olympics. On my list! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:16, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, Figureskatingfan. Your development of this article would be much appreciated although I see some improvements have already been made. Inline referencing is still not what it should be.--Ipigott (talk) 17:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

If anyone has time to add the 'citation needed' inline disclaimer where it's most needed, I’d be glad to follow up by sourcing the appropriate citations. Zxm92 (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

From Simple English to EN-WP

Does anyone have experience copying(?) (it's not "translating", and I don't know what is the accurate term) women's biogs from Simple English to EN-WP? Example: Jennifer Strong. I looked for an instruction page on EN-WP but didn't find one. -- Rosiestep (talk) 16:53, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: you could follow the guidance at Help:Translation. The main issue is notability and other en Wikipedia policies, also the source of copied text should be acknowledged in an edit summary. If the text is actually written in simple English it may need rewriting.

In this case there may be a connection between en:Draft:Jennifer Strong (journalist) rejected in August 2024 and the longer simple:Jennifer Strong published in October 2024. The wikitext seems to work if you just copy it. TSventon (talk) 17:38, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Any material taken from other Wikipedias needs to have all its content checked against its references. We cannot trust other Wikipedias to have the same sourcing requirements that we do (and even for our own articles, those requirements are not always met). For instance in the Jennifer Strong article, the entire "Early Life and Education" section is based on a deadlink which, viewed on archive.org, sources only one of its claims, that she "has a graduate degree in international affairs journalism from American University", and not even what degree it might be. The rest of that section is unusable without sources. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:09, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

I would advise caution translating from simple to en-wiki in particular because editors often head to simple after being blocked or having their articles declined here. -- asilvering (talk) 19:32, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, @TSventon, David Eppstein, and Asilvering; good to know. I took a photo of JS at this year's SXSW; I'll add it to her Simple EN biog and to her Wikidata item. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:10, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Draft: Ann Orel (submission declined - seeking advice)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ann_Orel

Hello : ) My name is Melanie, I'm a student from Duke and submitted a draft for Ann Orel (who was listed in the Women in Red list). The submission was decline because:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to meet any of the eight academic-specific criteria or cite multiple reliable, secondary sources independent of the subject, which cover the subject in some depth

Make sure your draft meets one of the criteria above before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If the subject does not meet any of the criteria, it is not suitable for Wikipedia.

I would appreciate any advice and suggestions. Thanks! MelanieTheCelery (talk) 19:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

MelanieTheCelery, the text explanation you copied and pasted into this talk page has links in it that explain the improvements you need to make in order for the article to be accepted. It links to Wikipedia:Notability (academics) and Wikipedia:Reliable sources.

Additionally every Women in Red redlist contains the statement "This list of red links is intended to serve as a basis for creating new articles on the English Wikipedia. Please note however that the red links on this list may well not be suitable as the basis for an article. All new articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria with reliable independent sources" Notability is not guaranteed by appearing on a redlist. Many people misunderstand this fact about redlists, however, your teacher should be doing a better job of giving you the basics of writing an article if it is to be an assignment. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:01, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

In this particular case, Fellow of the American Physical Society should be a pass of WP:PROF#C3 and I think she also has a case for #C1. However, the article is filled with unsourced claims (e.g. "This role involves collaborating with multidisciplinary teams of experts, conducting both basic and applied research, and leading projects and programs." with no footnote published by other people backing up this description of this role) and insignificant details (such as committee service). I would recommend trimming it back to only the material for which appropriate sources can be found, and avoiding as much as possible using publications or web pages of Orel herself as sources. Technically such publications can be used for sourcing uncontroversial non-opinion-based claims like the dates of her degrees but in practice using sources that are not independent acts as a red flag for draft reviewers and makes them more likely to reject any draft. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Surely if she's been a full professor at UC Davis since 1995, she is certainly notable? Can you find the date of her retirement? Can you say where she's been since 2008? She's collaborating with a Swedish group a lot. You might want to split Career and Research into 2 sections to make her research clearer. You can make the research clearer; theoretical molecular physics is a big area. Look at her papers to get a better idea of her research and cite them to support what you say. For sourcing about research collaborations, and what her research is actually about, her publications are the evidence for this. They are multi-authored, will have been peer reviewed, needed grant funding for the people and equipment from some organisation.

As a few points of style, I'd suggest making the language style less gushing (earning PhD, transitioned, research-wise, honored, prestigious) (This is also partly a cultural thing; style in USA versus EU!). Call her Orel throughout, not Dr Orel or Professor Orel. Also, the headings of sections should have a capital letter for the first word, but not the others. So Career and research not Career and Research.

You don't need to explain what Emeriti Faculty is; just say she is now an Emerita professor (with the wikilink). Call her Emerita, not Emeritus, in your first, leading section (Latin language endings differ for male, female and plurals).

Move being elected to the American Physical Society into the Notable Accomplishments section, and find her on their website in their list of members as the source for stating she's a member. With her publications (Notable Papers (and a book)), give the total number (or something near) to give a feel for the volume of work she's done, and add the book there, not in the Notable Accomplishment section.

I don't understand how giving a colloquium at your own university is a Notable Accomplishment (although it was in 2003 when she was chairing the Applied Science department, so probably had masses of other calls on her time). Say that Iota Sigma Pi (I have now learnt that it is the National Honor Society for Women in Chemistry) give the annual Anna Louise Hoffman Award (and remove mention of it from Background (Early life and education) (Is it Background or Early life and education; decide which heading to use?). Similarly, find the announcement from Division of Atomic, Molecular, and Optical Physics about her fellowship from them, e.g. on their webpage, UCDavis news item. MerielGJones (talk) 00:26, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Question about draft

Hi , colleagues. I left this same question on a age of an admin, and late found your project. I have a project for my social science class about underrepresented communities. My assignment is to present an underrepresented community and showcase the steps I have taken toward a solution. I created a Wikipedia article from scratch for the category "Romanian women", and it was accepted. Later, I found a poorly written draft that I significantly edited. I also attended a gallery related to this subject. I created the Wikipedia page for female Romanian designer Corina Larpin. Corina Larpin

Can you help me with the style for this to improve the chances for it to be approved? Draft:Jane Skripnik I tried to ensure the article was not promotional, and I didn't want to submit it without review. I am not certain about all the sources, but here are several I considered reliable: a national government agency that published two articles—one in Romanian and one in English—with slight variations.

Other sources provide in-depth coverage of the subject in major media outlets. The text appears neutral, and there are no indications that it is promotional. I assume the national agency was used as a reference.

I am confident in sources 1, 2, 6, and 10. Source 11 is an interview. Sources 3, 4, and 10 are primary sources. I kept source 12, which seems like a press release as a reference for additional information, but a press release cannot be considered independent source. However, I believe it is appropriate for the information I used.

These sources provide strong and detailed coverage of the subject, especially the National Governmental Center, which functions similarly to the White House press center in the U.S., offering in-depth report. This is what caught my attention in editing the draft. The original draft was in very poor condition—I had to practically rewrite it from nothing. Thank you in advance! Moondust342 (talk) 09:58, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

Dear @Ipigott, I read on your user page that you know Romance languages. I thought this could be interesting to you, because many sources are in a Romance language. I would appreciate your thoughts! Moondust342 (talk) 05:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

• @Moondust342:: My first suggestion is that you should wait at least a couple of weeks before resubmitting the article. Multiple refusals over a short period often cause reviewers to continue opposing inclusion in mainspace. I also think they have been influenced by the presence of too many primary sources. These could be included in External links but are not appropriate in the body of the article at this stage. My advice is that you should cut the article back to material drawn from what you consider to be reliable secondary sources which cover the subject in some detail. I also hope others will contribute to improvement. Please let me know when you think the article is ready for reassessment and I'll look through it more carefully. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:48, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Hi Ipigott ! I appreciate the response. What I wrote was never refused. All the refusals notices are from the old draft over a year old. The article was in a very bad shape, and 99% of the information there is new. It was some generic text with zero reliable citations. I edited the tone, removed irrelevant sources with no connection to the subject, or brief mentions.

  I was not sure what to do with Sources 3, 4, and 10. They are primary sources added by original editor. It is the link to the awards issued to the person, by the Ministry of Education. It is not the key point of the article, but those are official documents, providing reliable confirmation of the award. Same form of primary sources are used, for example, to confirm a person received a Grammy award. I decided to keep it.

  I asked chat gpt a few times to tell me if the text is neutral, and made edits.

  The other article I made about a woman in music, a very prominent publicist went right to the main space, while I am still gathering sources- Kathryn Frazier. I guess it is because I created it. It does not work the same way when I submit an article created by somebody else. Moondust342 (talk) 07:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

  Dear @Ipigott just to make sure there is no confusion. This is the draft i made comments above about - Draft:Jane Skripnik . I did not explicitly point it out and confused the editor from below. Moondust342 (talk) 08:39, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Moondust342: Draft:Jane Skripnik was declined at 08:01 today and you resubmitted it at 08:23 without editing the draft further. Did you mean to do that? I would suggest reverting that edit and taking the advice you get here before (possibly) resubmitting. The article has been declined because the reviewer needs more evidence that the article meets Wikipedia:notability requirements, so you need to focus on that first, rather than the neutrality of the article. TSventon (talk) 14:35, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @TSventon. Thank you for your comments! I believe the editor did not take a close look into the article. I understand there are a lot of submissions. The article had 5 or so notes is was declined. All those notes are from 1 year ago. 99% of the content of the draft were changed by me, so those comments are not relevant, but only create confusion for most editors.

Someone also left this comment today- Please have a look at how the subject's name is spellt; the footnotes contain references to "editors" etc.; some footnotes contain bare links; the grammar and style need fixing. Furthermore, the previously mentioned issues haven't been fixed. Best, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 16:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

But this is not helpful at all. Name is spelled the same as in refences, and "previously mentioned issues" have no connection to this specific draft. As I said, it was all replaced by me.

I fixed the links, so I do not know what "bare links" are there. I am confident in sources 1, 2, 6, 9 and 12. Other sources contain interview/statements elements. I kept them for citing additional information. Source 6 seems fine too. It is a platform for youth news covering subjects' work at a company.

These sources provide strong and detailed coverage of the subject. This is main source I am referring to (Source 1) , the National Governmental press agency, which functions similarly to the White House press center in the U.S., offering in-depth report. This is what caught my attention in editing the draft. Moondust342 (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Sharing some of my thoughts: I was considering these criteria for the subject WP:CREATIVE or WP:PRODUCER. "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work", and there are multiple independent sources covering the film and creative work of the subject.

There is also a point I considered WP:ANYBIO,"The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times".

The subject was awarded several times at the National Olympiads, that could technically apply to this point, as the subject is listed in the national directory for the national Olympiad. Moondust342 (talk) 17:51, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Moondust342 The main criteria for notability of people in Wikipedia are the "basic criteria" People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. There is more detail at WP:BASIC. If you could highlight three or four good sources on the article talk page, that would help establish notability. I looked at sources 1, 2, 6, and 10 you mentioned at 10:00 yesterday and I believe that they give significant coverage of Skripnik and are multiple published and secondary. I am not (and reviewers may also not be) familiar with Moldovan media so it would be helpful if you could explain whether the sources are Wikipedia:reliable sources. (Using Google translate) the theme of all four articles is that a young Moldovan woman has made a career in American media, including quotes from Skripnik, so I wonder whether they are recycled press releases or interviews. 1 Moldpress is the national press agency so it probably promotes the careers of Moldovans working abroad.

I think that Johannes Maximilian's feedback is helpful as it shows what they are thinking, right or wrong. I don't see a spelling problem, it would be helpful to fill in the website parameter in all the "cite web citations", in one reference the author is entered as "EDITOR" when it should be Jane Skripnik, I have fixed a reference with website=archive.org. TSventon (talk) 18:31, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I don't think that "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work", her IMDB profile lists her as producer for a music video and additional crew for a film.

I also don't think that National Olympiads are "a well-known and significant award or honor". TSventon (talk) 18:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @TSventon! Thank you so much for fixing the problem with the sources, because I had no idea what was wrong with those. I will know for the future.

I consider sources 1- the National Press Agency to be the most reliable source. It was published in English and there is a similar article, but a little language available in Romanian language. English Article sources 1 same in Romanian Language . I wondered the same as you, but I speak Romanian, as I mentioned before. National Agency repost solemnly on the activity of Moldovan government, and it is activity in different sectors. It is highly unusual to cover an individual. This is the article how I discovered the subjects, while working on the a Wikipedia articles about Romanian women. They do not accept press relapses, or offer paid features. They domain is under gov.md. This is the sources I am the most confident, because they are required by the law to upheld to the fact checking the journalistic code. I think it passes Wikipedia:reliable sources

Source 2- Știri.md is described as as platform ranked #1Online News Media in the country. The article itself does not have an over the top promotional language, paid media has a separate sections for it. I do not find any red flags with it, rather than just reporting on the news. I think it passes RS. https://moldova.mom-gmr.org/en/owners/

I edited sources yesterday, so numbers changed. Source 9-"Povestea unei tinere din Moldova care a obținut aproape jumătate de milion de dolari în burse la una dintre cele mai bune universități din lume, în SUA". - Unica.md it is actually a printed magazine. But they re-post news online too. It is the fist female magazine in the country, with over 100.000 readers. I am confident in this sources, as they are required by law to disclose promotional articles.

Source 6 Zugo.md is describe as an Independent Broadcasting & media production company focused on youth news. It is ranked 2# most visited news platforms for youth after diez.md.

Source 12, is Telegraph Moldova - Press Agency, having local presence with collaboration from The Telegraph UK. I believe it passes the Wikipedia:reliable sources, as it is a secondary independent press agency's article, which is based on several other courses, including source 1.

I kept source 11, because it might be helpful for readers. It is an interview piece, by the subject, in an industry respected outlet, DIVA, with established editorial policies and fact checking.

I also agree with the IMDb point. However, IMDb is by no means considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. Plus, the page is not edited, has no biography, and has no picture, which means it is not claimed by the subject in the first place. That is why I removed IMDB from the draft. The original old draft version contacted IMDB page as a reference and practically nothing else.

I hope this was helpful. Moondust342 (talk) 19:28, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Ipigott, would you please take a look, when you have time? I made changes with the help of two editors here, who pointed out issues with the citations and primary sources. Moondust342 (talk) 07:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

I spot-checked one source, [1], used as a footnote on the sentences "In 2014, she acquired full ownership. Her designs are known for their combination of rebellious elements, drawing inspiration from various cultural motifs and her personal aesthetic."

First of all, although the Los Angeles Times is a reputable newspaper, "L. A. Times B2B Publishing" is a separate subunit that publishes lightly edited business press releases rather than news articles written by LA Times journalists. The story is itself very promotionally worded, presumably because it is a press release from Stefere. I do not think this source can be considered reliable.

Second, there is nothing in the source about a 2014 acquisition, nothing in it about rebelliousness, nothing about a personal aesthetic. It does say that Larpin is the designer and director, frequently travels, and takes inspiration from her travels, but not that the inspiration she takes is in the form of "cultural motifs".

If this is representative of the rest of the sourcing of the article, declining the draft is very justified. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:58, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @David Eppstein! It is not the article I was referring to. It is the article I am still working on, it was added directly to the main space. The post that I made here is about this draft- Draft:Jane Skripnik Moondust342 (talk) 08:27, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

The draft has a lot of primary sources (especially from the Moldova Ministry of Education), and a lot of sources that could plausibly be independent news sources but are formatted as if they are just random web sites rather than newspaper or magazine articles. Those are going to act as red flags to any draft reviewer.

For instance, compare (from the draft)

• EDITOR (2025-03-27). "How queer cinema is helping to lead the fight for visibility in Moldova". diva-magazine.com. Retrieved 2025-03-27.

with

• Skripnik, Jane (27 March 2025). "How queer cinema is helping to lead the fight for visibility in Moldova". Diva. Retrieved 2025-03-27.

By formatting it as a magazine article and linking to the Wikipedia article about the magazine, a reviewer can much more clearly see that it has gone through the sort of publication process that makes it a reliable source by Wikipedia standards. However, what they will also see is that it was actually written BY Skripnik and cannot be used as a source ABOUT Skripnik. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Dear @David Eppstein thank you for your feedback! I just went back and fixed the 3 primary sources with this problem, as well as the source with the EDITOR's name. Moondust342 (talk) 19:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I had the same thought, it is the interview format used by the magazine. "However, what they will also see is that it was actually written BY Skripnik and cannot be used as a source ABOUT Skripnik. "

Do you think I should replace it with Editorial team and say it is an interview? It is not used as a main citation, but rather as a supplementary source. I was am not sure how to proceed with this source. Moondust342 (talk) 19:41, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

The cited sources are either sponsored media, or some ministry of education PDFs. There is nothing that indicates any notability. In fact, the "sources" cited in that draft were created just for the purpose of faking (SIC!) the subject's Wikipedia notability. The content, pictures, tone, and style are the same across all sources, and it's also surprising that all articles were created on or around 25 March 2025. I have two questions:

• Are you paid to edit the article?
• Were you aware of the fake sources?

In addition to that, I feel it's warranted to propose the page for deletion. It promotes an obviously non-notable subject, and it has been a huge waste of time. Turning this draft into something encyclopedic would not only require fundamental rewriting, I dare say it would be outright impossible. --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 10:21, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Post Scriptum: Next time, also put more effort into the pictures. [2] [3] – same location, same blouse, same necklace, same haircut, same lens… The photos were obviosly taken by the same same person. Can you explain this? --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 10:33, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

@Johannes Maximilian I uploaded one of the Wikipedia items myself if you can see, a picture I took from the open source gallery with flickr, from an event, with creative common license. I've also been to a film visited a film gallery curated by the subject, checking it out. What issue there are specifically with the images? It is not surprise at all that many people have headshots, and media kits for media usage. Journalist also take someone's headshots from social media available for people and media outlets to distribute. They have no images to use, rather than images made available by the person. Sometimes journalist contact people asking to provide images too. It is a common practice.

Someone just deleted the draft I edited and did not even ask me, while I have been joining an important project, working on several articles about women from the smallest country in Europe with practically zero content on Wikipedia at all. Can you please tell me if I can contest this action? Moondust342 (talk) 17:51, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi ! @Johannes Maximilian , I got a reply from @BusterD, clarifying to me that you tagged the draft with something like G5. I am adding below my conversation with them.- User talk:BusterD#Article

Would you please read that and let me know if my explanation was not clear somewhere? I am dyslexic, and I tried to make my writing clear.

This is a reply I wrote earlier. I feel a little attacked over a draft. No one attacked me when I made my first article. It was rejected a few times for style, but I worked on the sources, and it was eventually accepted. It is this one - Corina Larpin, some could like it, some could not, but I believe there is enough coverage from notable secondary courses to confirm it is a prominent designer.

However, with this draft: Jane Skripnik, I have been accused several times. I did not expect I have to virtually defend every source I used. I just took on to edit an old draft page created and abandoned over a year ago.

I had a working discussion with same students making articles about women. Here are many students from Duke University and other places openly discussing the articles they work on and help each other in this thread.

Again, all contribution I made are about Romanian women, women related to same creative events, and working in the same community. From the community nobody talks about on Wikipedia at all. Moondust342 (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Some well-intended advice: develop a thicker skin, you and all of your circle. On Wikipedia you will get direct (perhaps harsh) feedback from vastly experienced contributors. Expect it. Nobody signed on Wikipedia this morning to defeat you, deter you, or injure you. On the other hand every single person in this thread did choose to sign on today to assist you.

Appropriately, we are dispassionate about you and your friends. Not our business (although we certainly wish you well). We DO CARE very much about your contributions and wish very much to invite and inspire all of your best efforts. This is the heart of WP:Assuming good faith. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have used twenty minutes of my Sunday to compose this note.

Smart people often disagree. Smart people often make mistakes. On Wikipedia this is a good thing. We agree to disagree for a purpose, perhaps to discover a higher truth. That is the beginning of each Wikipedia discussion. Disagreement becomes a tool for solving difficult real issues in our shared work. So make impressive arguments. Weak arguments will be called out. You will get feedback of varying quality. If you are fortunate, this process will change your perspective and get you into our unique social norms.

So stay on topic, and don't divert attention with appeals to gentility, gender, or geolocation. These are useless here. Make your best arguments and you may learn something new. BusterD (talk) 20:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

@BusterD I appreciate your advice. I thanked people on this thread, who helped to fix the issues with broken citations links. I also thanked you on your page for giving me an explanation. I then went back here to give the link to your page and ask the editor to read it, asking if there was anything not clear in what I wrote. I will be waiting for them to reply. Moondust342 (talk) 21:41, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Johannes Maximilian! Thank you for your feedback. No, I am not paid to make the article and it would have been very easy for me to put a template It is paid article, as it is permissible. I described in the beginning all the articles I made and how I came across this draft. I came across a big article made by a very reputable media related to the subject, while looking for topics for my work, which I described. English Article sources 1 same in Romanian Language .

I am not confident in all the sources, as I describe above, and I gave a list of the sources that I am confident about and consider reliable secondary sources. "fake paid articles" are a serious allegation. Why do you think articles were "paid and fake" if they have similar content? The law requires to disclose all paid content, and the type of media in sources 1 is prohibited and does not do any form of paid content.

I do not see any issues that articles are new. In fact, the sources 1- was published around March 7, and many other sources followed. I am confident it was sources 1 was the main source many other sources based their stories on. It is not surprising me at all. It happens in many cases when the person get's attention first, and then many outlets just follow along. For example, I removed several press releases bases on each other, because they are not relevant. Moondust342 (talk) 17:40, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

African Union Kwame Nkrumah Award for Scientific Excellence

There's a few women awardees without articles on this list African Union Kwame Nkrumah Award for Scientific Excellence Lajmmoore (talk) 07:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Paper at Wikimania, Who are the 100 Women in Red?

@Rosiestep:, @Cmwaura: and I have a talk which we hope to present at Wikimania in August. Its titled "“Mexico City to Nairobi is over 9000 miles - Why did it take ten years and 200,000 women to get here?". Do go and have a look. It includes the sections "we were.... joined by hundreds of other editors ... We will profile a few and table a longer list". Who should they be? and........ "new biographies. Who are the stand-out discoveries?" In both cases we can only mention a few, but we will "table a longer list". I'm particularly interested in the latter.... I'm thinking "100 Women in Red". When we started Emmeline Pankhurst, Marie Curie, Nefertiti and Winnie Mandela already had a page .... who have we "found"? Who the most interesting and intriguing 100 discoveries The start might be

• Eliza Wigham (Scottish suffragist who was the first Women in Red article)
• Kate Marsden (Explorer who was lauded for her deeds and destroyed by her sexuality).

Who are the other 98? We could get a (vanity) book printed? Victuallers (talk) 09:59, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Assuming that our submission gets accepted... I'd like to add these two. That said, it took 325 WiR events to get to 20%, so maybe picking 1 name from each of the 325 event pages would also make sense? Also, I like the idea of publishing a (vanity) book. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:38, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

The link to the proposal doesn't work to me - I think one of the authors might need to go to the proposal page and share a review link there (under a 'Share Proposal' header). But this proposed talk sounds absolutely fantastic! Women In Red is a wonderful corner of Wikipedia, and has achieved remarkable things. By the way, another Wikimania proposal which I put in might (as @Lajmmoore: suggested) be of interest to people here - on trying to increase the number of women from the less-represented half of the world in Wikidata. Dsp13 (talk) 23:13, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

• Maria Lauder, the 6,000,000th EN-WP article
• Deolinda Rodrigues, co-founder, Organization of Angolan Women, her legacy included a book, a movie, and a vandalized statue

Does it have to be a biography? Please look at The Woman's Building (Chicago) :) --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 18:04, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Woman's Building Lemaire poster

• Ulanda Mtamba Malawian who made BBC 100 women but almost failed to get an article
• Hyuro Argentine mural artist who featured mistreatment of women
• Ajna Jusić is an Bosnia and Herzegovina advocate for children, like herself, who were born after rape during war.
• He Xiangning was a Chinese feminist who featured at Did You know on International Women's Day in 2016
• Theresa Kachindamoto someone makes you a tradional chief ... so why not dissolve 1000s of child marriages?
• Jessie Kenney and Adela Pankhurst you should know the last mames - they started militancy
• Martha D. Lincoln co-founder of the world's first chartered woman's press organization --Rosiestep (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
• Katherine Stewart MacPhail, Scottish surgeon who founded Serbia's first children's hospital --Rosiestep (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

other stuff

• The Woman's Building (Chicago) - In 1892 a bunch of women created, built and filled a building at the World's Fair
• Eagle House (suffragette's rest) - Memorial to the leading suffragettes - which they bulldozed
• The very successful year long initiative on Sufferage. Hat tip to Victuallers (UK) and Megalibrarygirl (US). Was this the most successful WiR year-long initiative so far?

• While Suffrage was indeed a very successful year-long initiative with 573 articles, the most successful so far was the Education year-long initiative with 1,074 articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:22, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

• I happily stand corrected on this. 1,074 articles! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:47, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Who were your favourites? Victuallers (talk) 09:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

During the editathon I created a short article on the Holloway brooch. It has had many contributors over the years and many views. I learned so much about the UK suffrage movement by doing the research (a lot more than was reflected in the article). Another article I created on a suffragist was not created during year-long initiative. I had more than a year's worth of interest in the subject. I created Ida Mae Thompson in 2022. She has stuck in my mind as a representative of the suffrage movement in the United States. Not a big name, but was one of the women who kept the movement going. She stands in the shadows of Lila Meade Valentine and Adele Goodman Clark who easily took a place in Virginia history. I can imagine Thompson at her typewriter getting stuff done in the background. In the 30s she was tasked by WPA to do research. She assembled quite a history of the Virginia suffrage movement in a uniquely effective way...she contacted people she knew, and asked them to look in their attics for primary source documents. What are your favorites? --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks WAU -I am still collating a list. Nokutela Dube just occurred to me. She would have been much more well known in South Africa, but she was cast aside because she didnt have children. Victuallers (talk) 10:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Other stuff: Duxhurst Industrial Farm Colony, England's first industrial farm colony for alcoholic women. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:49, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Women in Red April 2025

Women in Red | April 2025, Vol 11, Issue 4, Nos. 326, 327, 335, 336 Online events: New: Alphabet run G & H | Business Continuing, year-long initiatives: #1day1woman | Music Announcements (Events facilitated by others): The European Destubathon – a stub improvement contest/editathon from 1–30 April 2025 Tip of the month: When creating biographies, don't forget to use Template:DEFAULTSORT. Accessible from "Wiki markup" at the foot of the page being edited, it allows categories to be listed under the subject's family name rather than their first or given name. Moving the needle: (statistics available via Humaniki tool) 24 Mar 2025: 20.070% of biographies on EN-WP are about women (2,057,083, 412,857 women) 27 Jan 2025: 20.031% (2,047,793 bios, 410,200 women) Thank you if you contributed one or more of the 2,657 articles during this period! Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest

--Rosiestep (talk) 13:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Malawi

If anyone hasn't noticed, I've taken an interest in Malawi, which is a southern African ex-British colony (60 years ago) around the huge Lake Malawi. Its a country that needs a lot of help, a lot of help on-line and a lot of help to improve the profile of women. English is the first language but less that half the population speak it and the other languages fare no better. Primary education is available but not everyone can afford it even though it is nominally free. Young girls get married. Secondary education is a luxury. I would like to launch a project to help but it needs more IMO than being our theme for a month. So I've been working on it as a pre-project. Getting the governance is important and I have teamed up with a Malawian academic who is also a Wikipedian and at present working in Scotland. She speaks Malawi's second language Chichewa and there is a Wikipedia in that, and the third language.

We have both become members of the Scotland Malawi Partnership (SMP) which is an umbrella charity which oversees all the joint partnership projects. (The two countries have had a friendship that dates back to David Livingstone.) Our emerging Wikiproject has negotiated with the SMP and they agreed on Friday that they will in future use cc-by-sa!. This is a coup as this gives us access to hundreds of images. We plan to launch this project and we're looking for people and organisations to support us. The SMP, Rotary International and Women in Red seems like a good start. We have a roundtable proposal for Wikimania. We really need a Wikidata person so that we can measure our progress (a la WIR). I'm also trying to reach out to OpenStreetMap editors. So, can I assume WIR's backing? Any comments or suggestions? Any offers of help? Thanks for listening. Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 14:50, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Victuallers, what is your project aiming to do? I tried the link for your Wikimania proposal, but it wanted my email and even then I couldn't see the proposal. TSventon (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh not sure why. It usually takes me straight in - the abstract reads

"Malawi has over ten languages, with English as the official and widely used second language. Wikipedia currently has articles about Malawi in English, Chichewa, and Chitumbuka, but content is limited, especially in local languages. Our project aims to improve the representation of notable Malawian women, together with related places, organizations, and institutions, in all three languages. This is part of our pre-work. We believe the Wikimedia community could have a substantial influence by sharing positive stories about Malawi and its people. The project will be conducted remotely to maximise participation and will be done with Malawians to ensure accurate representation. While existing Wikiprojects focus on East and Southern Africa and African women, the Wikiproject Malawi remains dormant. Our proposal aims to revive it with a distinct gender bias. The aim of this roundtable session is to share best practices and explore collaborative opportunities to ensure the project's success." I have added about thirty articles so far just to understand the barriers. Very often the reliable sources are talking about hunger and poverty as if thats the whole story. Images are a big one, you also find that she was born in a place thats not on OSM/wiki and she's head of a university that has no article. So we know that it will be more than just notable women. HTH Victuallers (talk) 17:35, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

I've always thought the best use of WMF money would be helping to digitize offline media in underrepresented countries. I don't know if this would be feasible for SMP, but if they have ties with Malawian newspapers/journals/archivists perhaps they could write a grant proposal to WMF to fund a project scanning papers and hosting them online. JoelleJay (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks @JoelleJay: -digitizing would be good. The SMP have funds - they dont bid - we could. Making a bid for Malawian newspaper digitalisation would be interesting. Do you have any figures on the amount of stuff we are talking about? How many were there historically and what proportion are extant and off-line? I just found out that Wikidata items (with Malawi in the country property) gives 4,533 results and there are just over 1,000 Malawian citizens on Wikipedia. Big thanks to @Edward: who visited Scotland last Saturday. We have a needle ... just need to move it! Victuallers (talk) 08:12, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

No idea what the numbers would be, but even focusing on just one newspaper would be a big boost. JoelleJay (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

@JoelleJay and @Victuallers, I have submitted a proposal twice to digitize newspaper articles in English and two local languages but have not been successful. I would be happy to revise the proposal and try again. These newspapers also contain interviews and articles about notable people, and could be a valuable resource for Wiki articles, especially given the limited available information on people in Malawi. Nakhwinda (talk) 08:55, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

@Nakhwinda, yes, digitizing would be a huge win for the encyclopedia and for Malawi! It's bizarre they wouldn't fund that. JoelleJay (talk) 00:15, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Help requested

Transferred from the WiR Ideas page:

Hello I am also a member of the project. I recently started writing on wikipedia. My first article was Draft:List of Indian female warriors it was rejected and then I was working on Draft:Umm Hani Maryam a lady from Egypt who was lecturer at Cairo University in the 10th century. I did not submit it for review I was still editing it. I did no even get the chance to finish it and it was marked for speedy deletion by some editor. What am I supposed to do now if anyone could help me. The woman I was writing about was a really really intelligent lady and a prodigy in many fields.Silent ink (talk) 15:52, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Silent ink: there is a message on your talk page saying contact the deleting administrator if you want to recover your work. You could explain that you are a new editor and have asked for advice about improving the draft at a Wikiproject and they need to see the article to give useful advice. TSventon (talk) 10:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I don't see how G11 can apply to a woman born more than 500 years ago. There are obvious issues with the tone and style, but this is what draft space is for. I am pinging the tagging editor @Bbb23 and the deleting admin @Seraphimblade so they can fix their mistake here — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:55, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks a lot fellow editor I guess your tagging worked and the article is restored. I am extremely grateful and appreciate that you got my point(how can I promote someone born 500 years ago) Silent ink (talk) 17:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

And regarding Draft:List of Indian female warriors, I don't think that I can agree with @Deb's comment that "This would not be suitable for Wikipedia even if it were well-written because it is just a summary of articles that already exist, with no added information" because that is what list articles are for. Take List of castles in Ireland as a random example. There are already articles for most of these castles, so the list is not adding any extra information, but provides a useful overview of the subject — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I considered this, which is why I didn't delete it. However, I'm not sure that it qualifies as a list article because it purports to be something else. It's a list based on a subjective view, with little pieces of information picked out (duplication) and I am doubtful about some of the sources. Either way, the style is totally inappropriate for this project. And yes, you can write promotionally about dead people. How about if I were to write that "Winston Churchill was the greatest man of all time"? Lots of people might agree, but it wouldn't be acceptable. Deb (talk) 15:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, for considering the scenario and writing for me! Silent ink (talk) 17:39, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I've undeleted Draft:Umm Hani Maryam and done a lot of work to fix the English. However, it won't be accepted until you can include suitable citations for the statements you make about her, e.g. the unlikely claim that she had mastered all the Islamic sciences at the age of 7. Deb (talk) 15:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

@Silent ink: where did you get the information in your draft?

I checked Google books and "Umm Hani" appears to be known from a biography by Al-Sakhawi (1428/831 AH – 1497/902 AH), source Musallam, Basim (1996). "The Ordering of Muslim Societies". In Robinson, Francis (ed.). The Cambridge Illustrated History of the Islamic World. pp. 164–207. ISBN 9780521669931., page 190. TSventon (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Efforts appreciated! Silent ink (talk) 17:42, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for that. Yes I would definitely add the citations for everything. At that time I was just writing it so obviously it was incomplete and before I got a chance to finish writing and see through my mistakes and add citations it was deleted. So, yeah thanks again and surely I would try to understand what my mistakes were with the tone and etc and work on them Silent ink (talk) 17:34, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

@Silent ink: there is some advice at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Essays/Ten Simple Rules for Women in Red. It is best to check that your subject is Wikipedia:notable before starting the article, as articles that are not "notable" can be deleted, however well written. Ideally find at least three good sources. Sources need to be reliable, so a random website may not qualify, but they don't have to be in English. Also the sources should generally be fairly recent, rather than 19th century or earlier. It is a good idea to add citations as you go, so you remember what came from where, they can be <ref>website</ref> rather than full citations. If you summarise what reliable sources say, that should also help with the tone. TSventon (talk) 20:09, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Peruvian Women Scientists

Dear editors of women in red, I am here to share with you the results of our editing campaign on Peruvian women scientists organized during February and March. We have created 48 pages, 15 of them in English. I want to thank the users who helped us to review workshops and shape the articles in English. I share here the list of entries created, some of them are still in the Sandbox and I think they can serve as inputs for future activities. Other entries also need improvement, we are still working on them, but it would be very helpful to have your help as well. Thanks in advance! Looking forward to collaboratin with you in the future. Yhhue91 (talk) 19:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Yhhue91, have you validated that all the scientists on en.wp meet our notability requirements for academics (or GNG)? For NPROF, the subjects must be exceptionally highly-cited (in independent academic papers), well above the average professor in their broader subfield, hold named or distinguished professorships, won extremely prestigious awards like a Guggenheim Fellowship, be elected to highly selective and prestigious societies, hold a chief editorship of a major journal, or have an outsize presence as an academic expert in lay media. The first few entries I looked at did not appear to meet any of these criteria, so it would be helpful if evidence demonstrating how the subjects are eligible was added to their articles. JoelleJay (talk) 21:37, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

You said "I want to thank the users who helped us to review workshops and shape the articles in English." ... so do we. We are keen to find Peruvian women scientists and great to see your work. Well done. Victuallers (talk) 15:43, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Two Requests

Would someone be able to review an article I had written about a Novel by Hannah Lalhlanpuii. Link to the said article: Draft:When Blackbirds Fly (book)

Also I am hoping to work on women from Northeast India. Although Northeastern Indian society is largely matriarchal and egalitarian, its people often receive little to no coverage, let alone recognition. In essence, we are a minority among minorities. Therefore, I would like to request a special tag for a subproject dedicated to women from this region. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 22:59, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Tekedra Mawakana

Hello! I have submitted a COI edit request to address some recent changes made to the article about American chief executive and lawyer Tekedra Mawakana, which can be reviewed on the Talk page. The request seeks to remove personal information that is not based on secondary coverage, if any project members are interested in taking a look. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

sure, I am having a look Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:29, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Marcy Rheintgen

Please can I have some help creating an article for Marcy Rheintgen who was arrested after washing her hands in a Florida State Capitol bathroom while being transgender, part of Florida's dont say gay laws. I've collated what I think are enough references to cover notability, please feel free to edit my sandbox page directly.

User:John Cummings/Articles/Marcy Rheintgen

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 21:21, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

It is WAY too soon for an article on this person, and I strongly, strongly urge you not to publish this. Notability requires sustained coverage, and this definitely doesn't pass BLP1E (and potentially could violate BLP in general as it's entirely on a negative experience of a private person ). JoelleJay (talk) 00:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

New Articles

I am pleased to announce that two new articles have been created: Grace Lyu Collins and Shania Yan. Would appreciate your alls help in expanding and improving these articles. I have been hoping to create an article for Atokili Yepthomi, a young girl from Nagaland but so far the sources are only in indigenous languages and not english. Most of them again are in print form. This would perhaps be WP:TOOSOON but hopefully would be able to work on it, when time comes. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 03:20, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

References

Sources are not required to be in English. It would be best if it were a language you understand directly without having to rely on machine translation, though. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Greetings and noted! Also would you say YouTube Videos (interviews from Tv media) count? Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 14:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

References

Wikidata and Sister Projects: an online event

Hello WiR project members, I’m reaching out to ask if Women in Red would be interested in hosting a session at an upcoming online conference Wikidata and Sister Projects; which is focused on how Wikidata connects or supports Wikipedia, Commons, and the other Wikimedia projects.
The event will run from May 29 to June 1, with 3–4 hours of programming each day, divided into 30-minute or 1-hour slots.

I hope this would be a great opportunity to showcase how Wikidata supports your project—whether through structured data, tools, or workflows that assist in article creation, (perhaps something like using ListeriaBot or Wikidata-generated lists to track missing articles and guide editors in bridging content gaps). We would love for you to share your experiences, highlight useful tools, or present any Wikidata-related initiatives that have helped advance Women in Red’s mission.
If you’re interested in hosting a session, please submit your proposal here: Session Proposal template. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions! Looking forward to your thoughts.
- Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 13:02, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

31,920,948 pageviews in Mar 2025

Did you know that, according to toolforge/glamorgan, during the month of March 2025, there were 31,920,948 pageviews (only human views were counted) of Wikipedia articles (any/all language versions of Wikipedia) that contained photos (and other images) uploaded into this WiR category? Wow! So please keep uploading photos (and other images) within the scope of WiR to WiR's Wikimedia Commons category (click here for the 2025 category). Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Draft:List of companies founded by women

Last year I created Draft:List of companies founded by women. Could end up being a very long list. Thriley (talk) 20:37, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Request for review and help publishing sandbox article: Lucy Chen

Hi there, I’m Lucy Chen, an executive coach, speaker, and author. In 2025, I received a Gracie Award Honorable Mention for audiobook narration in the Digital Media – National category. My book Build Resilience: Live, Learn, and Lead has earned four national book awards, including recognition from Readers’ Favorite, the PenCraft Seasonal Book Awards, the Golden Door Awards, and the International Impact Book Awards. I was also honored to speak at SXSW 2025. I’ve created a draft Wikipedia article about myself using only independent, third-party sources, and I’d like to kindly request that a neutral editor review it and, if appropriate, help move it into article space. I’m passionate about increasing the visibility of women and underrepresented voices on Wikipedia, and I hope this article contributes to that effort. Here’s the draft in my sandbox:

🔗 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LucyCWrites/sandbox

I understand Wikipedia’s conflict of interest guidelines and want to ensure the article meets notability and neutrality standards. Thank you very much for your time and support! Warm regards,

Lucy Chen LucyCWrites (talk) 05:18, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Lucy! I am not an admin, but I know there could be some issues if you made an article about yourself on Wikipedia. There is a page about it. Also, try to add some secondary sources that provide better coverage of your background to help the admins establish notability. There is not enough information for that based on the sources you have in the article now.

Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing Moondust342 (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your information. It looks like publishing an article about myself on Wikipedia is not a good idea. I will not proceed then. Really appreciate your input! LucyCWrites (talk) 21:16, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Karoline Preisler

I just moved my English version to mainspace. Can I use any of the photos from the German page? https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karoline_Preisler Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 21:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

New page is Karoline Preisler Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Allthemilescombined1 Yes, all the photos are on Commons and free to use on en Wikipedia. You can copy the links from the de article and change "Datei" to "File". TSventon (talk) 01:16, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

@TSventonThank you! Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

I added infobox template for you. Moondust342 (talk) 07:45, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

@Moondust342Thank you! Allthemilescombined1 (talk) 09:51, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

New draft: Jane Skripnik

Hi! I created a new draft as a replacement for an old draft with some issues, based on the recommendation of some editors. Looking for help on it, for my class. I am doing articles on Romanian women. Thank you in advance. Draft:Jane Skripnik

Short summary on the sources I am confident in:

I consider source 1- the National Press Agency to be the most reliable source. It was published in English and there is a similar article, but a little language available in Romanian language. English Article sources 1 translated in Romanian Language . National Agency reports on the activity of Moldovan government. It is highly unusual to cover an individual. This is the sources I am the most confident, because they are required by the law to upheld to the fact checking the journalistic code.

Source 2- Știri.md is described as as platform ranked Online News Media. I do not find any red flags with it, rather than just reporting on the news. It is referring to a primary source- this one https://youngones.org/jury/-judge/jane-skripnik

Source 6-"Povestea unei tinere din Moldova. - Unica.md it is actually a printed magazine. But they re-post news online too. It is the fist female magazine in the country, with over 100.000 readers. I am confident in this sources, as they are required by law to disclose promotional articles.

Source 7 Zugo.md is describe as an Independent Broadcasting & media production company focused on youth news. It is ranked 2# most visited news platforms for youth after diez.md.

Source 10, is Telegraph Moldova - Press Agency, having local presence with collaboration from The Telegraph UK. It is a secondary press agency's article, which is based on several other courses, including source 1.

I kept source 9, because it might be helpful for readers. It is an interview piece, by the subject, in an industry respected outlet, DIVA, with established editorial policies and fact checking.

I removed IMDB from the old draft. The original old draft version contacted IMDB page as a reference and practically nothing else. IMDb is by no means considered a reliable source for Wikipedia. Plus, the page is not edited, has no biography, and has no picture, which means it is not claimed by the subject in the first place.

Full old discussion I had Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Question about draft Moondust342 (talk) 07:32, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Moondust342 A couple of questions: reading through the comments in "Question about draft" section your refer to, it appears several seasoned editors and hard-core inclusionists are mentoring you away from this topic. Why are you persisting? What class is this for, and is a published article part of your grade? Educators are strongly advised not to use the need for a published article for grades. Most especially BLPs. Awaiting your response. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:35, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @WomenArtistUpdates! My apologies, I did not include our recent discussion with the editors. Basically, I took on to edit draft that fit the topic I needed. It was denied 5 or so times over a year ago and abandoned by some blocked user. I replaced information from it, and 99% of the sources. Old denial were confusing many editors and me including. Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Draft: Jane Skripnik

I do not have many subjects I found for my class, but I will need to show that I have submitted some decent Wikipedia drafts related to my topic. We actually had some kind of coordinator representing Wikipedia, from education Wikipedia helping students last year, but I could not find that person. Students do not usually save some random contacts from classes. Moondust342 (talk) 04:03, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

@Moondust342 Have you changed your editor name? If you were part of a course last year you should have put a template on your user page to say so, and there should be links to your user page from pages about the course. PamD 07:43, 7 April 2025 (UTC)