Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/60
Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 60
[edit]Links for engaging with the local community of editors!
[edit]- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand website
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand on Facebook
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand on Bluesky
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Meta-Wiki page
- The Wikipedia Wikiproject for New Zealand
- The Wikidata Wikiproject for New Zealand
- New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board
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- Date: Sunday 30 March 2025
- Time: midday to 2pm
- Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
IMPORTANT: The first person joining the meeting needs to sign in as the "Moderator" using a Google, Facebook, or GitHub account; other attendees can then join without any authentication – see the jitsi blog for more information.
NOTE: This video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free. - Cost: Free
Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference
[edit]All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.
This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.
Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.
If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:
Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
- If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
- If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
- If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.
If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.
If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.
Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on
[edit]The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.
Future meetups
[edit]This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.
Apply for membership of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.
Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.
People
[edit]Attending
[edit]Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: ‘’’* ~~~‘’’
- Ambrosia10 (talk)
- Marshelec (talk)
- Paora (talk)
- David Nind (talk)
- David Palmer//cloventt (talk)
- 𓆣🕷️AxonsArachnida🕷️𓆣 (talk)
- Oronsay (talk)
- Giantflightlessbirds (talk)
- Winnieswikiworld (talk)
- Dactylantha (talk)
- Beeswaxcandle (talk)
- LynKing1123 (talk)
- Schwede66
- CopperAlchemy
- TheLoyalOrder
- Alexeyevitch(talk)
- MargaretRDonald (talk)
Unable to come
[edit]Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: * ~~~
Agenda and notes
[edit]Introduction to meet up by organisers
[edit]Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes)
[edit]Update from President, WANZ
[edit]I'm going on hiatus as President from 31 March until the end of September to travel to Europe. Pakoire, Co-Vice President will be standing in for me.
Update from Treasurer, WANZ
[edit]WANZ has submitted its 2025-26 funding proposal to Wikimedia Foundation. See: [1]. The Meta page also has links to our plan for the 2025-26 period. We are currently finalising our grant agreement with Auckland Museum for support of a further 12 month period for a Wikipedian-in-Residence, commencing in September this year. We have also recently received confirmation that the University of Otago will support a 6-month Wikipedian-in-Residence project and we expect to finalise our funding agreement for this project over the next week or two.
Update from Secretary, WANZ
[edit]Preparing for AGM, currently scheduled for Tuesday 29th April. Current WANZ members should have received an appointment in their inbox.
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2024–25
[edit]If you're an event organiser, don't forget to add your event as a programme to the Campaign Dashboard July 2024 – June 2025. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programmes to the Campaign dashboard you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard. Alternatively contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page for help.
If you're interested in organising a Wiki event, Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) provides support funding. Contact info @ wikimedia.nz for more information on how to apply. It's really simple – we promise!
- 8-9 February 2025 Women in Red in Whanganui: How did it go?
- Otago University Women in Red 2025 event: How did it go?
- 16–18 May 2025 Aotearoa WikiCon 2025 Christchurch: Registrations are still open, with 33 registered (above our target of 30). The organising committee could still receive scholarship requests for travel and accommodation, but please contact us soon. The conference programme is constructed based on participant input, and 23 registrants responded to a poll on conference topics. The most popular include: Getting reliable sources where they don't seem to exist; OpenStreetMap; working with copyright holders and getting them to change their closed licence; Commons copyright templates; and modelling iwi, hapū, and runanga correctly in Wikidata. Anyone who thinks they can contribute to those topics, please volunteer to help run or facilitate a session.
- Content: New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project: Project works on getting New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata and connecting them to their authors, advisors and main subjects. Project Dashboard. Mix'n'match dataset. Link to journal article, "The New Zealand Thesis Project: Connecting a Nation's Dissertations Using Wikidata". Project Contacts: DrThneed
- Content: New Zealand National Parks Project: Goal is to bring the articles of the 14 national parks up to Good Article status. Sign up if you want to help. The Kahurangi National Park article was significantly expanded over the last few months.
- Content: New Zealand Women Photographers Wikidata Project: Launched in July 2024 with the aim of improving information about New Zealand women photographers in Wikidata. A WANZ funded project being implemented at Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa by a group of Te Papa editors. Others welcome to join us. It builds on the research dataset released openly on data.govt.nz and the book Through Shaded Glass: Women and Photography in Aotearoa New zealand 1860 - 1960 published by Te Papa Press. The data set is New Zealand Women Photographers (Q127513013) and is available at https://catalogue.data.govt.nz/dataset/new-zealand-women-photographers.
- Content: WikiProject Aotearoa New Zealand Asian Artist: A project to import and build information on significant Asian New Zealand artists.
- Content: Aotearoa Wikipedian at Large on Banks Peninsula runs all year. The focus for April is the Lyttelton settlement of Rāpaki, and a Wikisource project to transcribe Maori Folk-Tales of the Port Hills (from interviews with Hone Taare Tikao).
Anyone know of or organising any other events or content projects? Note here to let the group know!
Round table for participants
[edit]Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want
- Ambrosia10: I've been extremely busy with last month with Biodiversity Heritage Library work.
- I'm the BHL-Wiki working group chair and have been preparing for the BHL annual meeting in Berlin where I'm reporting to the wider community on the work members of our group have been undertaking.
- I'm also undertaking a presentation on the use of BHL content in the WikiProject research expeditions as well as a workshop for the BHL Day, a public event.
- Finally I've also been presenting to and attending three BHL outreach events being supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. These are aimed at placing BHL illustrations, particularly about taxa from South America and Africa, into articles that need them in French, Spanish and Portuguese language. So I've also been doing a lot of editing around this effort as well.
- There is a tool that has been created to support this work that I want to show the group if we have time.
- In other news the Annals of Botany article about the benefits of Wikidata for the botany community Stitchbird2 and I have been collaborating on with two other wiki folk is now heading for print. This is a massive achievement as I understand only 20% of submissions get to this stage.
- For another project my colleague and I have submitted the paper about the Hidden Figures undergraduate course materials to an education journal and a preprint for that paper is about to being published.
- Finally for a third project the second Women general article analysing both the static dataset created and the data placed in Wikidata for our Women Genera project is planned to be submitted in the next couple of days. Once published this will bring to a close a project that has been running for almost three years.
- David Palmer//cloventt (talk): I've been a bit less active on the wikis this month due to being busy off-wiki. The big news is I have joined the board of WANZ! Otherwise I have been toying around with Wikidata and OpenRefine, with the goal of getting the Christchurch City Council's open park data collection available - so that there is lots of things for people to do on WikiShootMe. It turns out to be really quite technically tricky to wrangle geospatial data for Wikidata, but I have made some good progress. We had an Ōtautahi meetup this month which was small but productive. My DYK for the Christchurch Seagull Pit became one of the most-viewed for the month of March! I've made the beginnings of a draft for Rehua marae. I tried to contact the rūnaka but haven't heard back from them. I'd really like to visit and take some good quality photos. I also did some photography at local nature reserves, including The Groynes and Te Wouka Kahikatea, all on Commons.
- 𓆣🕷️AxonsArachnida🕷️𓆣: As per usual I've been working on my spider species. I've got around 99 to go. I also created a list of all (1,109!) spider species that occur in NZ. Making the list has got me interested in creating further lists for other orders of NZ invertebrates. Because of this, I'm now working on creating a list of NZ flies (loads of red links!) which I'm hoping to finish next week. This is being done by downloading all species from the New Zealand Organism Register. This has to be supplemented with a manual species search since NZOR is sometimes missing newer species. I'm also looking into uploading parasitoid species host data into Wikidata, which doesn't seem to be done in Wikidata very often (yet). Looks like because of this I'll finally get to use OpenRefine which I hear that Wikipeople seem to love. I've also decided that I want to get the Wellington Tree Weta article up to "good article" status, as that seems like an ideal candidate, so I'll begin doing that soon. Also I am going to be at Christchurch Wikicon for the first time!
- Marshelec: I have not been particularly active in Wikipedia over the summer months because of other commitments. However, over the past 18 months or more, I have supported improvement of articles about New Zealand National Parks. I have taken a particular interest in Kahurangi National Park. The size of this article (in words of readable prose) has been expanded from 347 in January 2024 to 4511 words as it stands today. I have not done much on this article recently, because I have been seeking detailed content about the complex geology and geomorphology of the park. This is crucial to this article, because one of the main reasons for the designaton of the area as a national park is the extraordinarily diverse landforms and habitats in the area that have resulted from its geology and geomorphology. I managed to persuade a friend of mine who has a background in geology to search for sources, and prepare content on this topic. He has recently given me a substantial piece of work that warrants its own article. I am currently working to "wikify" it, and hope to publish it as a new article within a few weeks. If you want to see how the working version looks at present, see User:Marshelec/sandbox4. I am grateful to my friend and pleased that this will become a useful improvement to the encylopedia. I am also grateful to User:Panamitsu, who has helped with a large amount of "wikifying" of the content in the working draft. I will need to prepare a suitable summary section to go into the main Kahurangi National Park article, with a link to this new article. After the geology content is improved, the Kahurangi National Park article may be a candidate for GA nomination.
- David Nind: I have not done any editing over the last few months - have mainly been focused on WANZ committee work. I am attending the National Digital Forum for the GLAM sector at the start of May, on behalf of WANZ.
- Oronsay: I've been happily scrolling through The Australian Woman's Mirror, starting with Volume 1, No. 1, page 1 looking for images of women; then screenshooting, trimming, uploading to Commons, Wikidata and Wikipedia – not just Aussie women. Attended a hybrid editathon at Artbank where we experienced nearly every problem you can imagine. Pleased to see that Wikidata dumps are back so have been able to update WiR gender statistics from Humaniki. Added 2025 winners of Victorian Premier's Literary Awards. Updated the 2024 Members of the National Academy of Medicine on Wikidata and Wikipedia and added missing names to WiR Redlist. Working through Victorian Honour Roll of Women on Wikidata/Wikipedia, adding year and refs where missing. Celebrated World Frog Day (20 March) by working on Aussie frogs on Wikipedia and World Poetry Day (21 March) adding AustLit IDs to Wikidata. Using Constraint violation reports for Bluesky, The Conservation, Google Scholar and LinkedIn to solve formatting errors and add missing info.
- Giantflightlessbirds:
- I helped Tamsin remotely with the International Women's Day Edit-a-thon, and we invented the role of WikiPixie (remote helper for in-person events - see the event for details).
- I've been continuing with the Aotearoa Wikipedian at Large project, with an overnight field trip to Okains Bay to photograph and add images to Wikidata. The focus of March has been reserves and forest remnants of the Peninsula, and I've created articles about Hay Scenic Reserve, Kaituna Valley Scenic Reserve, and Montgomery Park Scenic Reserve. Much of the month has been reaching out to numerous photographers via Flickr and iNaturalist convincing them to release their photos under an open licence.
- Heather and I had Dianne visiting for the day on the 18th to do conference planning on site at Ara.
- I've been also working on a Wikipedia project with Ashburton District Council, with two new books to transcribe in Wikisource, and I gave a public talk to 23 at Ashburton Art Gallery on the 16th.
- As User:DrThneed isn't here, just reporting that here University of Otago Wikipedian in Residence project is finally getting moving, and the Wikifying a Conference project I'm helping her with is looking good—just waiting for a Rapid Grant to be confirmed.
- Winnieswikiworld (talk): I am stoked to have received funding from WANZ for another year as WiR at Auckland Museum! Wiki101 didn’t get the numbers we hoped (seems to be a recurring issue with Auckland events). So we are changing tack somewhat and trying something new with the next event. Women in Architecture walking tour and Edit-a-thon coming up next weekend! Some exciting news - myself and Brodie have received scholarships to attend Wikimania 2025 in Nairobi!
- TheLoyalOrder: Working more on local government articles. Added remuneration section to Mayors in New Zealand, finding more and better photos of the mayors.
- Beeswaxcandle (talk): Three months since I last reported. Completed s:Dark Princess, s:Air Service Boys over the Atlantic, s:An emigrant's home letters (Henry Parkes). Recorded s:Not Understood and Other Poems by Thomas Bracken for LibriVox (linked at the Wikisource page). NZ editor User:IdiotSavant uploaded and proofread the Bracken poems. Also noted that the the Wikisource workshop at last year's Wikicon Auckland helped with gaining a certificate in teaching and training. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:48, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dactylantha: I have been continuing working on my batch-uploading projects, including uploading the Auckland Museum Ex libris collection and successful testing of a Wikimedia Commons to pinterest upload pipeline, and I am scoping out possibilities in developing a tool/web application with open refine post/get calls embedded within it using a GREL expression for extracting direct image links using the wikimedia commons extension on OpenRefine. I have also been working on an updated template for uploads from Auckland Museum for inclusion in source in wikitext, and for a departmental specific infobox (currently testing for Human History with my next upload). My next project will be uploading images of toys from the Fun! Ho! Productions toy collection - cast aluminion toys made in Inglewood in the 60s to 70s (96 images). I am also look at the possibility of a data cleaning project to standardise Wikitext in existing Auckland Museum OpenRefine uploads; I have tested overwriting this with a standardised template to replace existing wikitext in a smaller dataset so i will be looking into how I can scale this effectively over the next couple of months to a project with significantly more rows.
- Schwede66: Main page maintenance (dealing with errors and posting to In the news) — RNZ interview (alongside Siobhan) that they turned into a podcast — New articles this year: Mount Sparrman, Lightband Gully, and William Lightband — Gave a talk to the Golden Bay / Mohua group of U3A (recording of the talk [1 hr] and link to my slides) about how close Collingwood got to becoming New Zealand's capital in 1864 — Formed a U3A study group for researching Golden Bay/Mohua history topics and turning the findings into Wikipedia pages.
- Alexeyevitch: I've been doing quite a bit on Wikipedia. I've been working on the Bulbinella rossii article, which is an absolutely extraordinary plant. Bulbinella has an interesting and unusual highly disjunct distribution between South Africa and New Zealand and it's pretty cool, and it looks even better. Additionally, the Metrosideros bartlettii article is a Featured Article candidate which is also really cool.
- Paora (talk): Normal activities over the last month. Working on individual year articles for New Zealand at the Commonwealth Games (linked to in the infobox) - now up to 1986 (from the 1930s), still to do up to 2002 (the later years are good), finding online sources for results after 1988 are harder to find (using Trove and the Wikipedia Library).
- CopperAlchemy: Busy at WANZ - new committee members and President on leave. Working an article about Irene McInnes.
- MargaretRDonald (talk): Working on Korean Wikidata and East Asian list of species, joining uo with other country's articles. Won a prize in a Korean Wikidata competition. Success with an Australian botanist - he has authored a lot of species and his images are now CC BY, many in remote and far off places. Still working on upload photographs by Lachlan Mackenzie Copeland to Commons.
Review of questions raised during round table
[edit]- David Palmer//cloventt (talk): What should our interaction with politicians look like, particularly when they request adjustments? How do we manage potential conflicts of interest and ensure content about them remains balanced?
- Follow the guidelines and policies in Biographies of living persons.
- The WikiProject on New Zealand politics has a agreement that when close to an election articles are not added or edited (1/2 a year before).
- Local body elections:
- Have found many local politician articles that read as basically CVs written by the person themselves.
- Notability: is not about whether or not elected - there needs to be three indepth artciles that cover biographical details, then you are notable.
- Noted that Wikimedia Australia is drafting a post for the WMAU website on people requesting changes and adding photos.
- Dactylantha (talk): What are people's experiences with large scale OpenRefine projects? Having issues while working with a dataset with >180,000 rows, lots of crashes!
- Recommended that User:DrThneed is conatcted for help.
- Depends a lot on the data sets, can be done, for example, 40k items with the Australian Faunal Directory.
- Crop tool in Wikimedia Commons not working: Giantflightlessbirds is happy to help with learning to us this too - contact to set up a Zoom meeting.
- Alexeyevitch: Use of a research article that states "This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited". Does that mean it can be copy and pasted to Wikipedia if the authors are credited?
- Template for crediting Template:Creative Commons text attribution notice.
- Example of crediting works User:Schwede66/Tools#References.
- Tend to use quotes in the Wikipedia article, instead of using verbatum.
- Make it as clear as possible that you are using a source and are not plagerising from somewhere.
- Use the Template:Blockquote.
- Work can be added to Wikisource if appropriately licensed.
- Even though the article may be CC BY, it doesn't mean that the images are - need to check carefully.
- Examples of journal articles that specifically cover use of figures and images: 10.17129/botsci.696 (images are CC BY NC, so can't be used), 10.4202/app.01029.2022 (images are CC BY, so can be used).
- BHL scanning requests: Use the https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/contact#/comments form to request scanning - include a link to the work, copyright information, source country and any otehr important license information (icnlduing its copyright status in the US). Noted that BHL is concentrating on Flickr. Here are thef works that the Auckland War Memorial Museum has contributed to BHL.
- Wikisource - curly vs straight quotes, long dashes:
- Whoever first works on a works gets to decide - add to the index page discussion.
- For a long dash use {longdash}, oterhwise use appropriate characters for m dashes and n dashes.
- Opinion: noted that curly quotes are standard in all print, so if we're planning to export books for republication or even e-readers, we should be using them (or we look like amateurs).
Presentations, tips, tools
[edit]- New tool to assist with placing BHL illustrations in multiple language Wikipedia articles.
- DrThneed (talk) was interviewed on the Radio New Zealand Afternoons programme.
- Ambrosia10 (talk) and Schwede66 were interviewed for the Radio New Zealand The Detail programme.
- Dactylantha has written instructions for an OpenRefine Workflow for Extracting Wikimedia Commons Image URLs.
- Wikisource: Noted that over the last two years that Banking Under Difficulties has been listened to 13k times on the Intrnet Archive alone.
- Giantflightlessbirds attended the online worldwide GLAM meeting - said what we are working on, and is keeping an eye on the Telegram group.
- Useful links andresources for training: Wikimedia Australia.
- Open access paper about the NZ Thesis Project: The New Zealand Thesis Project: Connecting a Nation’s Dissertations Using Wikidata.
Outcomes
[edit]- Great discussions about what editors are working on, answers to questions, and sharing tips, tools, and resoruces!
Next meeting and meetup timetables
[edit]- 27 April 2025, same time, same place