Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/59
Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 59
[edit]Links for engaging with the local community of editors!
[edit]- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand website
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand on Facebook
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand on Bluesky
- Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand Meta-Wiki page
- The Wikipedia Wikiproject for New Zealand
- The Wikidata Wikiproject for New Zealand
- New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board
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- Date: Sunday 2 March 2025
- Time: midday to 2pm
- Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
IMPORTANT: The first person joining the meeting needs to sign in as the "Moderator" using a Google, Facebook, or GitHub account; other attendees can then join without any authentication – see the jitsi blog for more information.
NOTE: This video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free. - Cost: Free
Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference
[edit]All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.
This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.
Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.
If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:
Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
- If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
- If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
- If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.
If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.
If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.
Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on
[edit]The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.
Future meetups
[edit]This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.
Apply for membership of Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.
Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.
People
[edit]Attending
[edit]Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: ‘’’* ~~~‘’’
- Ambrosia10 (talk)
- Winnieswikiworld please may I go first as I have a family function to attend :)
- Giantflightlessbirds (talk)
- DrThneed (talk) 21:49, 1 March 2025 (UTC) (but I'll be late)
- 𓆣🕷️AxonsArachnida🕷️𓆣 (talk) May drop out towards the end of the meeting
- David Palmer//cloventt (talk)
- Paora (talk)
- Dactylantha (talk)
- Oronsay (talk)
- Alexeyevitch(talk)
- MargaretRDonald (talk)
Unable to come
[edit]Add your name to the list by adding an asterisk and three tildes like this: * ~~~
Agenda and notes
[edit]Introduction to meet up by organisers
[edit]Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes)
[edit]Update from President, WANZ
[edit]The committee have had a business planning day on 22 February to plan for the 2025/26 financial year. It is our third and final year of our three year grant. We have a bit of work to do to put the application for funding into Wikimedia Foundation by the end of March. It's likely that the funding application will be of a similar budget to this year and for similar activities. WANZ is settling into a rhythm of work and grants funding to help drive the connectiveness of the Wiki community and encourage new editors. We've established a regular grants and events cycle. Any members of the WANZ incorporated society are welcome to pitch ideas for our activities by emailing info@wikimedia.nz. If you're yet to become a member of WANZ registration fees are $NZ5 annually and an application form is available on the WANZ website.
We've been recruiting for additional committee members for WANZ and we are in the process of accepting a number of new committee members. News to come after our next committee meeting.
I'm going on hiatus as President from 31 March until the end of September to travel to Europe. Pakoire, Co-Vice President will be standing in for me.
Update from Treasurer, WANZ
[edit]Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2024–25
[edit]If you're an event organiser, don't forget to add your event as a programme to the Campaign Dashboard July 2024 – June 2025. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programmes to the Campaign dashboard you can find further information here on how to create a new event dashboard and how to link it to the overall campaign dashboard. Alternatively contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page for help.
If you're interested in organising a Wiki event, Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand (WANZ) provides support funding. Contact info @ wikimedia.nz for more information on how to apply. It's really simple – we promise!
- 8-9 February 2025 Women in Red in Whanganui: How did it go?
- 16–18 May 2025 Aotearoa WikiCon 2025 Christchurch: Registrations are now open. Programme outline published. The organising committee is happy to receive requests for funding for travel and accommodation. The conference programme is constructed based on participant input. When registering, participants can request topics they would like to see included in the programme, and offer topics they are happy to present on. Registration.
- Content: New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project: Project works on getting New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata and connecting them to their authors, advisors and main subjects. Project Dashboard. Mix'n'match dataset. Project Contacts: DrThneed
- Content: New Zealand National Parks Project launched with the goal of bringing the articles of the 14 national parks up to Good Article status. Sign up if you want to help.
- Content: New Zealand Women Photographers Wikidata Project: Launched in July 2024 with the aim of improving information about New Zealand women photographers in Wikidata. A WANZ funded project being implemented at Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa by a group of Te Papa editors. Others welcome to join us. It builds on the research dataset released openly on data.govt.nz and the book Through Shaded Glass: Women and Photography in Aotearoa New zealand 1860 - 1960 published by Te Papa Press. The data set is New Zealand Women Photographers (Q127513013) and is available at https://catalogue.data.govt.nz/dataset/new-zealand-women-photographers.
- Content: WikiProject Aotearoa New Zealand Asian Artist: A project to import and build information on significant Asian New Zealand artists.
Anyone know of or organising any other events or content projects? Note here to let the group know!
Round table for participants
[edit]Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want
The summer student programme has finished, the students did an amazing job presenting at the Summer Student seminar. One of the main goals was lasting engagement so I’m delighted that three of our students will be attending WikiCon and have all expressed their excitement to continue editing.
Late last year the Auckland Museum Podcast team that produce ‘The Amp’ pitched an idea about Wikipedia to be hosted by me with insights from James Taylor, Marty Blayney, summer students, Aashish Ramanlal and Kat Baker and Museum reseacher, Sophie Elborough. I think it’s a great introduction for people who don’t know much about the world of Wiki. The episode ‘Welcome to Wikipedia’ was released on Friday! Listen here: https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/discover/podcast
On the 15 March I will be hosting a Wiki101 Edit-a-thon designed for complete Wiki beginners. It’s been advertised through the Museum’s channels (marketing team have been so wonderful and supportive of my work) so it will be interesting to see what the turn out is like. Whats on Auckland Museum: https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/visit/whats-on/wiki101-edit-a-thon Wiki event page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/T%C4%81maki_Makaurau_Auckland_34
On May 16th Brodie and I will be partaking in the Auckland Writers Festival, to host a drop in New Zealand Author’s Edit-a-thon. I will also be on RNZ Lates to promote the Wiki101 event (I believe next Monday 10th at 8:30pm)
- Einebillion (talk) 02:29, 20 February 2025 (UTC) Just letting the group know that I'm leaving for Europe for the next six months returning to New Zealand in late September. I'm having a break from all things WANZ committee and meetup organising during this time. This means that someone will need to set up the new event pages, cut and past the standard content and update the Online Meetup page with the new event dates. Ambrosia10 sometimes does this work but many hands makes light work so passing this little job back to the group to action.
- Giantflightlessbirds
- The main project over the last month have been the Aotearoa Wikipedian at Large, focussed on Banks Peninsula. I have been working with numerous groups like the Summit Road Society, Akaroa Museum, Banks Peninsula Conservation Trust, and the Naval Point Club in Lyttelton to arrange collection uploads and public events. Three Wikipedians attended Waitangi Day at Ōnuku Marae, photographed the settlement and the event, had a good chat with organiser Kelly Tikao about future collaboration, and helped User:Cloventt create an article about Ōnuku, including sourcing photos of past events from the Governor General's collection. I'm emailing the GG's official photographer to let them know how much we appreciate their work. The focus of March is Hinewai Reserve and the other scenic reserves and botany of the Peninsula; any help appreciated.
- I've also been doing some work with Ashburton District Council and Ashburton Art Gallery and Museum, uploading part of their publicity photo library and working with the museum to do a bulk upload of historic photos and digitised books for Wikisource. Last Monday I spent the day in the Ashburton Lakes area taking photographs, and am currently working on articles about that area, including Mount Sunday. On 30 March there's a field trip photo shoot with Wikipedians from Christchurch, spending an afternoon documenting Ashburton’s buildings and parks.
- I also spent 8–18 Feb in Bali attending the first Wikisource conference in 10 years, which was remarkably productive. Just over 100 people, only a few working on English Wikisource, and some good discussions on growing the project, setting up a newsletter and regular online meeting, and forming a Wikisource Hub – report in progress. Heading over I had an eight-hour layover in Melbourne, just enough time to join a Wikimedia Australia meetup in the State Library Victoria.
- Ambrosia10 - I've been quite busy this month doing the following
- Worked with Stitchbird2 to produced this article starting on page 4 of the New Zealand Plant Conservation Network newsletter. I added information on this outreach to the upcoming Febrary GLAMwiki Newsletter. Anyone else with NZ GLAM related content should also add to this newsletter!
- Continued to work with Stitchbird2 and our other colleagues who organised WikiProject International Botanical Congress 2024. Our scholarly article on Wikidata for the Annals of Botany journal is currently being edited to incorporate the feedback from reviewers. We hope to have it resubmitted by mid March.
- I attended the two calls held by the WMF on Wikimedia Commons. To see a summary of these calls see for Tool investment priority and for the Impact and funding model.
- I chaired the monthly meeting for the Biodiversity Heritage Library-Wiki working group. See this link for the notes on that meeting, a recording will be available soon. I spent a significant amount of time working on a best practice document on the use of BHl identifiers in Wiki for this group. Feel free to have a look if you are interested and feedback will be gratefully received!
- As for editing I've been working on expanding a couple of New Zealand moth species articles, see for example Orocrambus machaeristes. And as Wellington is currently in the midst of a Seaweed Festival I created and expanded (with the help a fellow Wellington editor Richlit) an article on the NZ endemic seaweed Zonaria aureomarginata which is found in and around Wellington harbour.
- Met with University of Otago group, GEMs in STEM, who are restarting activities after a bit of a break. They had seen one of my pages from last year and the ODT article on me, and had already been talking about an editathon. We are planning an event for the 7th March, the day before International Women's Day.
- Talked to Auckland Museum summer students, alongside Lisa and Mike.
- Planning a talk to the Ministry for the Environment's women's group, an online group of approx 150.
- Submitted a rapid grant proposal on Wikifying a Conference, with Mike. We aim to 'wikify' three events and then write a handbook for the community. We would really appreciate endorsements from people who think a handbook on how to wikify an event would be useful. Just click the link above, then look for and click the blue 'Endorse' button right at the bottom.
- Attended the Australian Wikidata drop-in session - really worthwhile and I recommend! (their upcoming events are here https://wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Events)
- 𓆣🕷️AxonsArachnida🕷️𓆣
- I'm back from my various PhD fieldwork trips (I was gone almost all of January) and am getting back into Wikipedia. My main project continues to be creating basic articles for all of New Zealand's spider species. By my estimate I've got about 167 articles remaining, which I'm hoping to complete before the month is over.
- I've become addicted to WikiShootMe and have been spending a bit of time clearing out red dots from the map. I want to more fully clear out sections of the map but have stopped myself for a couple of reasons. Firstly I'm not sure if it would actually be useful for me to photograph every hotel/motel and school (which seems to be a large chunk of WikiShootMe). I'm also not sure if it would be a good idea to shoot places like Māori Urupā as I'm not sure if that would be culturally insensitive or not. Similar to this, I'm unclear whether it would be fine to take pictures of a historically significant private residence, as I imagine most homeowners would be uncomfortable with that.
- I'm contemplating projects to take on after my wiki spiders are done. I'm leaning towards getting various NZ insects/spiders up to "Great Article" status as I've seen a few species here and there that I think would be great candidates for this. I might also try going through all the species on iNaturalist and uploading representative images to wikicommons for all species they have.
- David Palmer//cloventt (talk)
- Attended Waitangi Day at Ōnuku marae with Mike and Gayle, got some good-ish photos of proceedings with my iPhone; unfortunately my DSLR chose the exact wrong moment to stop reading SD cards. Luckily I've managed to get my camera back working so hopefully more-prepared for future events.
- Helped get the article for Ōnuku published. I'm considering taking it to GA. Slipped my mind to submit it for a DYK so need to get to GA if we want to take it to the front page.
- Had a Christchurch meetup. It was just myself and Gayle so we spoke at length about topics around te ao Māori on Banks Peninsula, including the people who were treaty signatories. We also discussed the reliability of some of the sources at the time, particularly James Stack and his possible biases. Gayle had discovered that life casts were taken of some of these notable rangatira, and are kept at museums in Paris! Copies are kept at the Christchurch Art Gallery. Might be an incredible way to get actually accurate depictions of them for their articles (which Gayle is working on).
- Discovered some weirdness with redirects for to Wairewa marae. It was a redirect to Little River (New Zealand), which also had a paragraph for the marae. Except that... that's the article for some random river somewhere near Rakaia, not the township. So I moved the paragraph over and fixed up the redirects. Weirdest case of mixed up toponymy I've seen on wiki.
- Working on marae has revealed how poor our coverage of marae are on-wiki. To facilitate better coverage I've started creating an infobox template dedicated just for marae and similar cultural sites, you can see a demonstration of the work-in-progress here: User:Cloventt/infobox_marae/testcases.
- I thought it would be neat to have a dedicated "marae" icon to put on maps in these infoboxes, but discovered no such thing exists. So I submitted a pull-request to add an icon to the public-domain CC0 maki iconset that is used on-wiki. It is maintained by Mapbox. The PR was accepted so will probably appear in version 8.1 of the iconset. Eventually MediaWiki will probably update to include this so at that stage this icon will become available to use on maps. Meanwhile elsewhere it will be used in a bunch of other mapping software too.
- Managed to get some DYK up for Cave Rock, Sumner and Kaiapoi Pā.
- Decided to write a fun article for the Christchurch Seagull Pit, the unofficial "9th wonder of the world" and obviously the most-important ever article written about New Zealand.
- I am considering joining the WANZ committee to support the mahi. I am quite busy elsewhere in life at the moment so I plan to dip my toes in, feel how the water is, and then commit once I know more what my workload looks like for the later half of the year.
- User:Oronsay has been working behind the scenes for the AbbVie Australian medical research editathon finding articles about women that had info and/or references missing. Had some robust discussions on the need to understand how to write for Wikipedia with academics who say "I know how to write". Wrote three stubs for Aussie women botanists so that the genera and species they described no longer have redlinks + an NZ paleontologist Joyce Richardson who led a research expedition to Stewart Island. And all the usual linking, merging work in Wikidata.
- User:Alexeyevitch has been contributing to Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand and has mostly been focused on flora articles. Is working on getting Metrosideros bartlettii to featured article status.
- Paora - Halberg Awards were recently held and had an "In memoriam" section, which was a research jumping off point to update Wikipedia articles and add Wikidata where missing. Also discovered a Hocken Library folder of images of academics taken in 1981 which is CC BY 4.0 licensed so he's been adding them to Wikipedia as well. Tamsin says this may be the result of the Otago Medical school reunion. She and Mike a planning on wikifying the whole thing and Paora said there are 50 to 100 photos that can be used by Wikimedia commons. Paora also let the group know that the Te Raukura article has recently been prodded. He's "deprodded" it as it is a notable building for the purposes of Wikipedia BUT the article does need improving especially the reference section. Also improved and expanded Herman Mattson, which was nominated for deletion; discussion now closed as "keep".
- Adding public images to taxon articles, and at the same time creating blue and red links to authorities, together with creating redlinks of the form [[Category:Taxa named by ...]]
- Note that the public images include those of Australian botanist Lachlan Copeland many of which are described in iNaturalist as "Needs ID". (Work on Lachlan's images has led to several new articles for Australian plants)
- When on these pages, I frequently need to add a Taxonomy section, with links to all original description papers when found.
- New property for Korean taxa (P13330) for Wikidata proposed, accepted (and implemented by User:99of9) and I have started to populate the property. (As is typical of my work this led to changes in Causonis japonica (references going from 3 to 14, blue links for authorities, and other changes... , Also Pied Harrier, Dusky Thrush and many others)
- NZ related contributions: Authority blue links for Durvillaea. And using the NZBiota ID to find NZ related articles without images: Teichosporaceae, Teichospora.
Review of questions raised during round table
[edit]- Add your questions here...
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Presentations, tips, tools
[edit]- Wellington is holding a Seaweed Festival from the 1st to the 9th of March so if you are keen create or enrich seaweed articles in Wikipedia!
- Example of a query on a Wikicommons structured data query service ie a tool to obtain images from Wikicommons via structured data. This query shows all the images in Wikicommons that depict a taxon where the image has a BHL page id in its structured data, and the taxon is endemic to New Zealand.
Outcomes
[edit]- We noted there was no member of the WANZ committee present; it's really important that there's one representative there that we can ask questions of.
- The Global GLAM calls have skipped our time for the next few sessions, apparently because nobody from our hempisphere has been offering to host. These time slot were created for us to have GLAM conversations so we need to step up if we want to keep them! —Giantflightlessbirds (talk)
- Global GLAM calls
- Global GLAM calls planning documents
- See Global GLAM-Wiki Calls in Telegram: only 22 members.
Next meeting and meetup timetables
[edit]- 30 March 2025, same time, same place