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Nominations urgently needing reviews

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Nominations

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Nominator(s): PresN 02:18, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey everyone, mammal list #59 in our perpetual series and rodent list #4: Heteromyidae. Cousins to our last list, the gophers, here we have the kangaroo rats (and pocket mice). They're 63 tiny little guys with long tails and big back feet, hanging out all over the Americas. As always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 02:18, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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  • I would wikilink succulent plants (first cited with Gaumer's spiny pocket mouse unless I missed it earlier).

User:PresN: That's it. Like the others I've reviewed for you, it's excellent. I'll go ahead and support right now since I only have the one suggestion and it's not a deal-breaker. I'll come back and do the source review another day. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:15, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Already linked 2 mice higher up (though there was a typo). Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 14:22, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:47, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the FL criteria. I jave worked extensively on this list. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:47, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): JustTryingToBeSmart (talk) 05:03, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating Morgan Wallen discography for featured list because... I have been working on this list for nearly a month now and had an amazing user peer review it for me. I fixed mistakes that they mentioned, as well as some that I noticed. Now, after doing such, I think that this list meets the criteria for a featured list.

Delegate note: not transcluded onto FLC until July 28. --PresN 12:19, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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  • "The album remained atop the respective chart for 12 consecutive weeks,[12] eventually spent 19 non-consecutive weeks atop the respective chart,[13] and ultimately spent 119 weeks (and counting) in the top-ten of the respective chart" - there's no need for any of the usages of the word "respective" in that sentence.
  • I'll do a full review in due coure -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the comments! I will fix that sentence now. I'm happy that you will review it. Thanks! JustTryingToBeSmart (talk) 17:38, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More comments

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  • "competed on the television show The Voice, competing on season six" => "competed on season six of the television show The Voice" (more concise and avoids using "compete" twice in the sentence)
  • "A biography written for Wallen by AllMusic suggested that The Voice raised Wallen's profile, which caused him to establish connections in the music industry" - I don't think we need to specify within the prose who said something as uncontroversial as this, as long as it's supported by a reliable source
  • "the extended play would re-release on January 26, 2024" => "the extended play was re-released on January 26, 2024"
  • "The extended play featured" => "It featured" (avoids repetition of "the extended play")
  • "Wallen's song "Spin You Around"" - no need to specify whose song it is. Whose song could it be other than Wallen's if it was on his EP?
  • "which would later be re-recorded on January 26, 2024" - does the source specify that the new version was recorded on that exact date?
  • "On July 29, 2016, Wallen would release his second extended play" => "On July 29, 2016, Wallen released his second extended play"
  • "which spawned Wallen's debut single" => "which spawned his debut single"
  • "The title track would become" => "The title track became"
  • "Wallen's first entries on Billboard's Country Airplay and Hot Country Songs charts"
  • "The single served as a follow-up to Wallen's debut single and became Wallen's" => "The single served as a follow-up to Wallen's debut single and became his" (avoids repetition)
  • " Wallen would release four singles" => " Wallen released four singles" (see WP:WOULDCHUCK for details of why it is almost never appropriate to say "X would do Y")
  • "The former two songs would appear on Wallen's debut studio album" => "The former two songs appeared on Wallen's debut studio album"
  • "which released on April 27, 2018" => "which was released on April 27, 2018" (an album doesn't release itself)
  • "The latter two songs would appear on Wallen's sophomore studio album" => "The latter two songs appeared on Wallen's second studio album" (we should write for a general international audience wherever possible and the word "sophomore" is basically unknown outside the United States)
  • "which released on January 8, 2021" => "which was released on January 8, 2021"
  • "in the top-ten" => "in the top ten"
  • "throughout 2021 to 2025" => "between 2021 and 2025"
  • "Wallen's third studio album, One Thing at a Time, released on March 3, 2023" => "Wallen's third studio album, One Thing at a Time, was released on March 3, 2023"
  • "The album remained atop the respective chart for 12 consecutive weeks" - no reason for the word "respective"
  • "eventually spent 19 non-consecutive weeks atop the US Billboard 200" => "eventually spent 19 non-consecutive weeks at number one" (avoids repetition)
  • "in the top-ten of the US Billboard 200" => "in the top ten" (no need to restate the chart again, it's clear that you are still talking about the same chart)
  • "and topped the respective chart for 16 non-consecutive weeks" - no reason for the word "respective"
  • "becoming one of the longest-running number-one songs on the respective chart of all time" - or here.....
  • "On January 26, 2024, Panacea Records released a deluxe 10th anniversary edition of Stand Alone, Wallen's debut extended play from 2015.[16] The 10th anniversary edition constisted of eight unreleased songs that Wallen himself deemed "terrible".[17] Alongside the release of the extended play, an acoustic version of his song "Spin You Around" entitled "Spin You Around (1/24)" released" - you already said all of this earlier (apart from the bit about the songs being terrible), there's no reason to say it all twice in the lead. I would say it would be better to remove the earlier mention and leave this here. If you do that, correct the spelling of "consisted"
  • "The respective song peaked atop the Country Digital Song Sales chart the following week" - no reason for the word "respective"
  • "which would become Wallen's second Billboard Hot 100 number-one" => "which became Wallen's second Billboard Hot 100 number one"
  • " Later that year—Wallen would garner his third Billboard Hot 100 number-one, being "Love Somebody"" => " Later that year Wallen garnered his third Billboard Hot 100 number one with "Love Somebody""
  • "Like its predecessor, it maintained a strong presence on the respective chart for multiple weeks" - no reason for the word "respective"
  • "spawned nine top-ten hits on the US Billboard Hot 100,[A][27] spawned Wallen's fourth number-one on the respective chart;[28] being "What I Want", and spawned 13 top-ten hits on the Hot Country Songs chart" - make this a separate sentence and reword to "It spawned nine top-ten hits on the US Billboard Hot 100,[A][27] including Wallen's fourth number one on the chart,[28] "What I Want", and 13 top-ten hits on the Hot Country Songs chart"
  • That's what I got on the lead -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:00, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): -- Reconrabbit 12:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With assistance from PresN, this list of mammals is a complete list of the hystricids, or the Old World porcupines. Found across Africa, the Levant, and Southeast Asia, these rodents are more similar to other spiny rats than they are to New World porcupines. Most are relatively unknown, and little has changed about their systematics in recent years. This list attempts to reflect current scientific consensus. -- Reconrabbit 12:19, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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@Reconrabbit:Here's an image review from me! Arconning (talk) 13:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • File:Hystrix indica 365302751.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • File:Atherurus africanus 61628262.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • File:Atherurus africanus distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Brush-tailed Porcupine, Atherurus macrourus in Kaeng Krachan national park (15925250476).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
  • File:Atherurus macrourus distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Puercoespín (Hystrix africanus).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Hystrix africaeaustralis distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Westafrikanisches Stachelschwein.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Hystrix cristata distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Weissschwanzstachelschwein Hystrix indica Tierpark Hellabrunn-12 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Hystrix indica distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Hystrix brachyura, Malayan porcupine.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Hystrix brachyura distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Dikobraz palawanský zoo praha 1.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Hystrix pumila distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Hystrix sumatrae, the Sumatran Porcupine (12616233295).jpg - CC BY 2.0
  • File:Hystrix sumatrae distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Landak Jawa Hystrix javanica.JPG - Public Domain
  • File:Hystrix javanica distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:HystrixCrassispinisBerjeau.jpg - Public Domain, needs a US Public Domain tag as well
  • File:Hystrix crassispinis distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Long-tailed Porcupine, Keningau, MY-SA, MY imported from iNaturalist photo 529916299.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • File:Trichys fasciculata distribution map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
    • All images have alt-text besides range maps (query: do range maps require alt-text for accessibility?), captions are appropriate and are relevant.
    I think I'll accept that for now, the one image just needs the required tag and I think it'll be set. Arconning (talk) 01:17, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    PD-US-expired has been added. -- Reconrabbit 15:52, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Pass image review. Arconning (talk) 01:45, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To clarify for anyone reading, I did get this sorted with the ACCESS people years back: the accessibility text for an image for someone using a screen reader is the alt text plus the caption. It reads out both, one after the other. So the alt text shouldn't duplicate what's in the caption; in this case, it makes the most sense to just put all of the text in the caption and make the alt text blank, so that's what the template does. --PresN 14:06, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Per WP:BOLDLINK you shouldn't link Hystricidae when its bolded under "Classification section. Also it would be excessive linking as you have it twice in the same section quite closely together
  • "Range maps are provided wherever possible; if a range map is not available, a description of the hystricids's range is provided. " Now, I understand that this is a boilerplate template but is it necessary to have this note included when population range maps are provided for each genus? 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 18:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I actually missed that Trichys fasciculata had a range map somehow. That sentence and the following one have been truncated and combined into just "Ranges (maybe 'range maps'?) are based on the IUCN Red List data for that species", since all maps are based on the IUCN data. The bold link is no longer a link. -- Reconrabbit 23:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Support nomination, originally I was planning to do a source review but I couldn't access those resources 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 02:24, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • As ever, very hard to pick up on anything with your lists, but I would suggest maybe linking the first use of "tubers", as I am not sure that this is a commonly known word -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Since Novak's item "tubers" is a novel addition to many of the species' diets, I added that link alongside the other commonly eaten items in the introductory paragraph. Thank you, by the way. This is my first list nomination, but I was only able to do it because of PresN. -- Reconrabbit 12:05, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well done for spotting that I didn't read the nom statement properly!!!!!!!! Anyway, great work and happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:07, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): DiamondIIIXX (talk) 23:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list as I have expanded the prose section and followed the same structure as a similar Featured List, List of cricketers who have scored centuries in both innings of a Test match. The page has received over 33,000 views this year, and over 200,000 since I created it. It is continually being updated by numerous editors due to the nature of cricket happening year-round. All comments are welcome, thank you. DiamondIIIXX (talk) 23:31, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "Scoring a century in any format is regarded as a landmark score, completing the feat in all three international formats is considered a significant milestone by the cricket community and media" - this sentence is not grammatically correct. I suggest adding "and" before "completing"
  • "The first player to score centuries in all international formats was Chris Gayle of the West Indies in 2007, after also being the first player to score the first T20i century" - this does not make grammatical sense for multiple reasons. "after also being" does not work and "the first player to score the first T20i century" is wrong because obviously only one player can do the first ever [something], so "first player to score the first T20i century" doesn't make sense. The whole sentence should be re-written as "The first player to score centuries in all international formats was Chris Gayle of the West Indies in 2007, who achieved the feat by scoring the first century in T20i cricket"
  • Link Zimbabwe and Kenya
  • Isn't "T20i" actually normally written as "T20I".......?
  • The lead seems very short and like more could be added. Can you spotlight the countries with the most players on the list and note the most recent player to complete the feat?
  • The sorting of the "player" column is wrong, it should sort based on surname, not forename
  • The exact date of each century should be shown, not just the month, and the month names should be written in full, not abbreviated
  • All of the First [whatever] columns should sort based on the date, not the score
  • Headings of the last three columns are unclear - presumably they mean total number of centuries......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I suggest adding "and" before "completing" - instead of adding "and", would a semicolon work instead of the comma?
    • "The first player to score centuries in all international formats was Chris Gayle of the West Indies in 2007, who achieved the feat by scoring the first century in T20i cricket" - Agree
    • Link Zimbabwe and Kenya - Agree
    • Isn't "T20i" actually normally written as "T20I".......? - I thought they were interchangeable, my mistake
    • The lead seems very short and like more could be added. Can you spotlight the countries with the most players on the list and note the most recent player to complete the feat? - Most of the sources are just lists and don't summarise the number of winners from each country, so would unfortunately be WP:OR.
    • The sorting of the "player" column is wrong, it should sort based on surname, not forename - Not sure how to make the table sort this way - any pointers?
    • The exact date of each century should be shown, not just the month, and the month names should be written in full, not abbreviated - Dates were abbreviated to fit better in the table and keep it compact. When using the full date the cells got much taller and decreased readability. Any suggestions on how to make it remain compact?
    • All of the First [whatever] columns should sort based on the date, not the score - Again, not sure how to configure this. Any pointers?
    • Headings of the last three columns are unclear - presumably they mean total number of centuries......? - It's each player's total number of centuries in the specified format. I thought [Format] + total was clear and concise.
    DiamondIIIXX (talk) 19:25, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I removed a bunch of references from the men's table that were from sites that were of dubious reliabilty (and looked like a major REFBOMB).
    • Have also sorted the sorting on both tables (including removing some unnecessary sorting on the country templates). Spike 'em (talk) 15:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Having said this removing some unnecessary sorting on the country templates, if I view on mobile (including selecting mobile version on a desktop browser), then the Team sorting is in a very strange order (starts Sri Lanka, West Indies then ends India, England) Spike 'em (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @ChrisTheDude - Article has been updated and prose has been expanded. Would be interested to know what you think of it now. DiamondIIIXX (talk) 22:44, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is the list of governors of Nigeria's state of Imo from when the region was called Eastern then split into East Central and two other states, then East Central was splitted into Anambra and Imo states. I have significantly worked on this and it now meets the criteria for FL. Feedback would be very much appreciated. Thank you already. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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Image review:

  • File:Imo State Government.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Imo State Flag.svg - CC0
  • File:Nigeria - Imo.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Ndubuisi Kanu Portrait.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Admiral Adekunle Lawal.jpg - Valid fair use rationale
  • File:A portrait of Dr Samuel Mbakwe (Dee Sam).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Governor Rochas Okorocha (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0 - Could probably be cropped.
  • File:Rt. Hon. Emeka Ihedioha (cropped).png - CC BY-SA 3.0 History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:26, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pass. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): SounderBruce 22:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yet another list of municipalities in a national subdivision, but this time it's back in the United States. This list is formatted similar to my recent FL on Washington's municipalities with some streamlining due to Oregon's lack of incorporated towns and classifications. SounderBruce 22:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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With the last table, I would strongly recommend adding a column for references down the right-hand side. It would really help to declutter the table. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:58, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done, though I'm not entirely happy with the format as it stands. Might tweak it a bit more. SounderBruce 01:20, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does look better. You could left-justify the column to match the others. If the references are stacking for you, you could consider using {{nowrap}}. You could also consider abbreviating Incorporated and Disincorporated – {{Abbr|Inc.|Incorporated}} and {{Abbr|Dis.|Disincorporated}} – so as to narrow the widths of those columns. I would also clarify above that table what incorporation and disincorporation are. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:54, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think I would go as far as to abbreviate unconventional words for the sake of column widths, especially when the table itself is not wide enough to justify it. The concepts are explained in the lead, which is a more fitting place for the prose. SounderBruce 05:08, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was just making some suggestions because you said you weren't entirely happy with it. As it is, I think it's fine, although I would left-justify the reference column to match the others. I have not examined the rest of the article yet, but I will try to take some time to do that today! 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:39, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Easternsahara

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  • File:Oregon in United States.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Portland Oregon Aerial, June 2024.jpg - CC0
  • File:Eugene Oregon from Skinner Butte.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Salem Oregon downtown.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Downtown Gresham, Oregon.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • captions should usually be small and describe the image itself. therefore, i don think there is any need to have "the most populous city in Oregon", or the second most and so on. This information is present in the table/list
    • This is the format used in other municipality lists and helps explain why these particular images are included.
  • alt text checks out

i may do a source review if i have enough time, ill pass image review if u resolve the caption issues or just explain why the included part is necessary. 🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 17:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • put the "use american english|date=July 2025" and "use mdy dates|date=July 2025" templates to deter article deterioration
  • Using a newspaper to verify population is okay, you should also add the 2020 us census using the "Cite United States census" template
    • The Census data does not support the ranking among states, which is why the newspaper souree is used.
  • sources 1, 3, 4, 7*, 11, 14 check out
  • "all in the Willamette Valley" is not mentioned in source 7 or 2
    • Removed until I can find a direct source.
  • couldn't find "Greenhorn" in source 18
    • Replaced with a better table source, but Greenhorn is listed with no population and an inactive government.

🇪🇭 Easternsahara U T C 12:24, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Easternsahara: Thanks for the review, I have responded to a couple of the notes. SounderBruce 22:09, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Mattximus

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  • Excellent list, just a few minor squibbles.
    • I would align the link in the first sentence to List_of_regions_of_the_United_States#Census_Bureau-designated_regions_and_divisions. Since you are using census data it makes sense to align with the US census regions.
      • Added a link to Western United States, but I do believe that "Pacific Northwest" is a far better and more common name than any Census designation.
    • I know someone above gave you contradictory advice, but personally I would remove the reference column and simply add the reference at the end of notes. I would also complete the last two missing notes with a statement on why they are former municipalities.
      • I have added notes to fill the blank cells, but will keep the references column for now.
  • That being said, neither of those recommendations are absolutely critical, so I will pre-emptively support and thank you for this excellent list. Mattximus (talk) 16:03, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If you look at a version of that table from before the references were moved, I think you'll agree that it was totally cluttered to the point of being distracting. I believe it is much more accessible now. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:07, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the support. SounderBruce 22:09, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Added a header so it looks less like this review is from Easternsahara. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:56, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TechnoSquirrel69

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I've been looking for a nice list to start reviewing at FLC again, and this looks like a fun one! Citation numbers from this revision.

  • In addition to a map of the US, have you considered a map of Oregon with the listed cities marked? Maybe with just the county seats, since 241 might be too many dots to be useful.
    • Planning to work on this once I migrate my setup to a new desktop PC. QGIS is fussy when trying to add statewide layers.
  • Is there a better picture of Eugene? There isn't much to see in the current one, especially at smaller sizes.
    • Was unable to find a good skyline photo, and my own photos of Eugene are from the pandemic lockdowns, so not as representative of its normal level of activity.
      Hmm, I'll see if I can fix that the next time I'm down there later this year. TS
  • The proper name of what's depicted in Gresham appears to be Main City Park, not City Park. Real apples and oranges, I know. :P With that said, and considering other buildings are pictured, I might prefer to just leave the name out of the caption.
    • Fixed.
  • The table needs anchors to make the {{Compact TOC}} work. (I also encountered this on List of municipalities in Washington, so you may want to take a look at the other lists you've worked on for this issue.)
    • Fixed on both lists.
  • Since citation 17 is already in footnote a, consider taking it out of the table header so it isn't as crowded.
    • Moved.
  • What's the distinction being drawn between the cities "annexed by" and "consolidated into"?
    • The municipalities that were annexed did not require a citywide referendum and were instead outright absorbed; for consolidations and mergers, the soon-to-be-defunct city's residents had to approve.
  • I realize there's more information about Damascus in footnote b, but I might expand slightly on "Approved in 2016" — what was approved?
    • Expanded.
  • Consider standardizing the capitalization of citation titles.
    • Standardized to sentence case for the news citations.
  • Citation 15: consider linking to the Internet Archive, since the county seats are only listed in the 2005–2006 edition and not the online edition. Bonus points for including |url-access=registration.
    • Done. I wish I had known about the Internet Archive's copy, as I had to stop in at the Seattle Central Library to scan a copy of the same edition.
  • Citation 34: consider linking Casey Parks, which I just redirected to the article on her memoir.
    • Added.

Great work, SounderBruce! Please let me know if you have any questions. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:53, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment from CouvGeek

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I noticed the lead mentioned the amalgamation of a few municipalities to form Lincoln City, yet none of them are mentioned at #Former cities. Could you take a look and take care of that? CouvGeek (talk) 03:57, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added those three cities, thanks for finding that mistake. SounderBruce 06:05, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:05, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I came back from holiday to find that the two FLCs which I had open when I left had both been promoted, and uncharacteristically I did not have another one ready to go But now I do, so here it is. In 1995, the top of the AC chart was dominated by songs from a couple of films and a TV show which I hear was quite popular...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:05, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment from Birdienest81

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The only thing I could think of regarding this list is probably the alt text can be a little more descriptive for the images. Perhaps listing just the year the photo was taken is fine. I learned that it's not necessary to describe what the person is wearing for an alt text unless this is an article dealing with fashion.

Otherwise everything looks fine. Can you proofread 97th Academy Awards for its prospective featured list promotion? I would appreciate the feedback.

--Birdienest81talk 07:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birdienest81: - done! And yes, I will take a look at your FLC -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:56, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
--Birdienest81talk 21:26, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • displacing the final number one of 1994 - You could link the 1994 list there.
  • Three consecutive chart-toppers which between them held the top spot from early June until mid-November were taken from film and TV soundtracks - This sentence reads a bit convoluted, I think. Can it be reworked?
  • The Eagles topped the AC chart for the first time since 1975 with their song “Love Will Keep Us Alive” - Those are curly.

That's what I saw. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 10:54, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Alavense: - all done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:56, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Alavense (talk) 06:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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I'm going to do an image review now, and if no one does a source review in a while then I'd be happy to do one.

  • File:Seal in Frankfurt am Main 2006.jpg - Public Domain
  • File:MelissaEtheridgeGuitarHWoFSept2011.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Eagles cropped.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:InThisLifeUnderGround.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • alt text is good so image review pass
  • add "use foo dates" and "use foo english" templates
@Easternsahara: - I added those two templates -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since Estonia was just promoted, I have another national skating championship article queued up. I am particularly proud of this one, because when I found this article originally, there was very little sourcing, plus the historical background. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, the sources are properly formatted, and there are relevant historical photos available from the East German archives. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments, and thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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  • Should "German Ice Skating Association" be redlinked?
  • Should the note be in a seperate notes section?
  • File:Deutscher EisLaufVerband DDR Logo.svg - PD
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1988-0105-018, Katarina Witt.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-K1109-0008, Günter Zöller.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-70201-0003, Margit Senf, Peter Göbel.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-C1112-0020-002, Annerose Baier, Eberhard Rüger.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-N0324-0009, Jan Hoffmann.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-G0111-0012-001, Gabriele Seyfert.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-B1210-0011-003, Brigitte Wockoeck, Heinz-Ulrich Walther.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-E0109-0002-003, Annerose Baier, Eberhard Rüger.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • I added some alt text in the Senior medalists section; you can review my contributions to make sure they conform with the MOS. Image review pass

User:Easternsahara: I'm embarrassed at having forgotten the alt-texts; you'd think I'd have this covered by now. I don't think "German Ice Skating Association" should be redlinked. This is the defunct East German federation; not the one currently in Germany. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:57, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, if you think that it shouldn't be redlinked then that is fine. Easternsahara (talk) 15:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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Source Review:

  • Spotcheck:
    • 3 - All good, I think, my German isn't great.
    • 6 - All good.
    • 9 - All good.
  • Source review pass.

Prose:

  • Nothing objectionably wrong.

General:

  • Are any of the unlinked skaters notable enough for red links?
  • Most of the gold medalists are already linked. Per WP:NSKATE, silver and bronze medalists at national championships do not meet the criteria of notability unless they have also placed at international competitions. Honestly, I'm impressed we have articles for as many of these skaters as we do.

Nothing objectionably bad overall, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:10, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:35, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TheDoctorWho

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  • Since the logo isn't obviously in English, I think a caption might be useful here
  • "Jan Hoffmann holds the record for winning the most East German Championship titles in men's singles (with eight), while Gabriele Seyfert holds the record in women's singles (with ten). Heinz-Ulrich Walther holds the record in pair skating (with six), although those were not won with the same partner. Annerose Baier and Eberhard Rüger hold the record in ice dance (with seven)" ---- I think some simple rewording could be useful here to avoid "holds the record" in quick succession four times. Something like "The record in pair skating is held by Heinz-Ulrich Walther, with six medals, although not all of those were won with the same partner."
  • "During this same time period, the separate figure skating championships were held in West Germany; those results are considered part of the German Figure Skating Championships." --- doesn't quite read right grammatically to me, I believe dropping the word "the" (before separate) might do it
  • The records section is another one that looks odd to me with the table so far over, I'd suggest adding {{clear}} again to bump the table down below the photos. The table displays below the photos for me, but maybe that's just my computer, so I added the clear.

That's all I have! TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:TheDoctorWho: I have implemented all of your suggestions. Let me know if you have anything else, and thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:34, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Probably just a difference on screen size. My laptop screen is 15.5", so for anything smaller than that it probably bumps down, while for anything bigger there's more breathing room. That should bump it down for everyone though and make it consistent. Either way, happy to support. TheDoctorWho (talk) 21:04, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because my other nomination has reached two supports. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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  • File:소설한남에서의_점심식사_02.jpg good copyright, verified in source. All good
Thank you. History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:41, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. :) Cos (X + Z) 22:43, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source Review

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  • I will not check the sources of the first 2 paragraphs because those have been evaluated in the past and found to be okay as they as copied from one list to another.
  • For the district column of the Seoul table you can link District
  • For Busan you can link District
  • Source 19, source 1*, Source 5*, source 6*, source 7, source 8, source 10 (although i used deepl) pass
  • You can put source 5 and 6 where you put source 19 for additional verification.
  • a question about source 1, it says "A total of 234 restaurants made the list, including 29 new additions. Seoul accounted for 186 of the selections, while 48 were in Busan" but it does not list all of them. This contradicts what they say after, can you provide an explanation for this? This is probably nothing but just to be safe
  • I'll pass the source review once my concerns are addressed and once I go over a couple more of the citations for the list columns, thanks for your patience.

Easternsahara (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Easternsahara, all done, except the contradiction in source 1, I do not see where it is contradicting, please tell me the two places. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:10, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it says 234 restaurants made the list, but does not list all 234 so I thought this was strange. Easternsahara (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Restaurants can be on the list, meaning recommended, but not starred, meaning very highly recommended. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:18, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Forgot to ping, @Easternsahara. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:18, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did all except for archiving the PDF, I don't know how, and removing restaurant guru because it is the only one I could find, other than Google Maps, which I removed. @Easternsahara. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did the PDF, I figured out how, @Easternsahara. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I support the nomination, but I would appreciate if you filed a query at the teahouse asking how to cite and archive the pdf that is relevant, good work! Easternsahara (talk) 00:05, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

cont.

  • Citation 11 checks out and you can also use it to verify the closing of l'impression.
  • Citation 5 has an error, please resolve that.
  • sources 13, 14 are good.
  • where source 14 is, you can also put https://guide.michelin.com/kr/en/article/features/joook-moving-to-new-york-next-march for extra verification.
  • 23, 24 are dead links, please update the internet archive status to that.
  • Source 23 should not be using the webpage, can you cite the pdf instead? you can have both in conjunction, the pdf needs to be archived as well.
  • for source 24 the pdf is archived, unlike source 23, and i can confirm the verifiability of it.
  • kind of minor, but are you sure restaurant guru and google maps should be used, cuz restaurant guru doesn't seem trustworthy and WP:GOOGLEMAPS says that you generally shouldn't use it.
  • i am ready to support for source review once you are done addressing my concerns.

Comments by Birdienest81

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  • Link CNN and The Guardian in their references with CNN under agency or publisher field and The Guardian under work or newspaper field.
  • Nespresso.com should be either linked as Nespresso since its a brand or Nestlé, the brand's parent company.
  • You should remove the red links for Star Wine List and Restaurant Guru.
  • Foodandwine.com should be renamed and linked to Food & Wine under either the work or magazine field using a news citation since you are referencing a magazine.
  • Link all three Eater references (7, 14, and 24) under the website field.

That's all I have for now. Could you review 97th Academy Awards for its featured list nomination? Please be aware that some references utilize bundling and might read as an false error.

--Birdienest81talk 01:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birdienest81, done all, I will see of I have time to review the list soon. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@History6042: More comments
  • Ref 21 is missing the work or publisher (in this case Michelin Guide)/
  • Ref 25 and 26 should be changed from Michelin to Michelin Guide since you are citing the actual Michelin Guide as a source.
--Birdienest81talk 21:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birdienest81 done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:04, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
--Birdienest81talk 05:49, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by grapesurgeon

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  • Some refs missing author names, should fill in.
  • One ref typo "[]Michelin Guide]]"
  • Once fix above I'd recommend run the internetarchivebot, but that's optional.

grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 13:38, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Grapesurgeon, done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:40, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support nomination. Also one of the references didn't have a translated title, I did that one for you too. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 01:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. :) History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:18, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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I have seen that several other lists in this series have been promoted to FL, so I am comparing this article to List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Dubai, which was promoted to FL in March, to ensure consistency.

  1. The Dubai article cites the 2025 Michelin Guide in the lead, but this article cites the 2024 Guide. Have there been any updates since the publication of the 2024 guide?
  2. "After the creation of the Seoul Guide, Song Ki-seok, a local politician alleged..." You need another comma after "politican". Or you could rephrase as "local politician Song Ki-seok", which might actually sound better.
  3. Sometimes "guide" is capitalized and sometimes it is not. Is it a proper noun? Either way, it needs to be consistent.
  4. "Journalist Joe McPherson... wrote in an opinion piece that the Guide was described as only for people..." I have underlined the segment that reads awkwardly. Was he describing the guide as only for people... (as in, his opinion), or was he reporting that the guide had been described as only being for people... (as in, reporting someone else's opinion)?
  5. Cuisine styles (ie. French) are wikilinked on the Dubai article table, but not on this one. Are there wikilinks for "contemporary" or "innovative" with regards to cuisine?
  6. I would pluralize References at the bottom of the tables.

User:History6042: Let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:30, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. The Guides are not updating at the same time every year, South Korea 2025 is not out yet.
2. Done
3. It can be either, but done as capitalized and italicized.
4. Done
5. No, said links do not exist from what I've seen.
6. Done
@Bgsu98, History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:08, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I forgot to mention it, but the italicization was discussed at some earlier point in time. 142.113.173.102 (talk) 00:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:14, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, also the above IP is me, I got signed out and didn't realize, sorry about that. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:15, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Orangesclub

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The list looks in similarly good quality to other lists I have seen of yours. I have few notes.

  • Dates in references are inconsistent - ie some are 2018-07-18 and some are 14 July 2025.
  • there are 40 restaurants in the South Korea - drop the "the".
  • It would be good to make the opening sentence consistent with the corresponding Thailand and Taiwan FLs: "In the 2024 Michelin Guide, there are 40 restaurants in South Korea with a Michelin-star rating."
  • As with previous comments I've made, there is some excessive all caps with "Michelin" in references
  • Redlinks should be removed, though I know that there has been a recent effort to increase the number of articles in this space so for those that will probably have articles soon they can be left.
  • I'm curious on your thoughts on how to present on the criticism- I think it'd be good to have consistency across all these lists you're promoting, so seeing how the Thai list has a criticism section at the bottom, should this one too? Or, should the criticism be brought up to the top for the Thai list too?

orangesclub 🍊 05:06, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the criteria. After searching for one, I could not find a suitable image. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review by Bgsu98

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This was originally a drive-by comment: This first sentence: In the 2025 Michelin Guide, there are seven restaurants in Thailand with a Michelin-star rating. I'm assuming Thailand should be Malta? Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:00, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98, fixed. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources appear to be properly formatted. Multiple sources need to be archived (no. 5, no. 6, no. 8, no. 9). Spot check

  • No. 3 – Checks out.
  • No. 7 – Checks out.
  • No. 11 – Checks out.
  • No. 12 & No. 13 – Verify all of the information.

User:History6042: I ran the article through ArchiveBot for you. Let me know once you've archived those last few sources. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:30, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98, done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:56, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:57, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:59, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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Everything is a nitpick because there isn't much content here, not your fault but just the way it is.

  • "although they were still given" add a "nonetheless" at the end of the sentence.
  • Each year since 2023, each Michelin-starred in the nation has sent a chef to prepare one dish each, to the Dine with the Stars event, a charitable event to raise money for the Malta Community Chest Fund. " → "Every year since 2023, each Michelin-starred restaurant in the nation has sent a chef, who prepares a single dish, to the Dine with the Stars event which is a charitable event raising money for the Malta Community Chest Fund." :*Used "each" thrice in a sentence, so I switched that. sentence also used too many commas imo, otherwise good and im ready to support prose review
@Easternsahara: all done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
support Easternsahara (talk) 01:25, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birdienest81

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  • Accoding WP:ALLCAPS, Reduce newspaper headlines and other titles from all caps to title case. In this case, change MICHELIN in the titles to Michelin.
  • Wikilink all names of publications or organizations providing the citations if there is a Wikipedia page available (i.e. Michelin Guide, CNN, and Times of Malta).

That's it from me. Although next time, you should wait for at least three distinct supports (four or more explicit supports are more preferable, but three supports are fine if the last has been nominated for maybe at least two weeks) for the first nomination before nominating a second list up for consideration. I'm just pointing out the rules that say, "Nominators who have previously successfully nominated a list may have two concurrent featured list nominations only if the first active nomination has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed." Only two supports seems a bit low for a list only nominated less than a week (much less only been up two days).

--Birdienest81talk 02:17, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birdienest81, all done, and sorry, I thought two would be enough. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @History6042: One more thing, it's probably better to not link the title of publisher of the citations if they don't have Wikipedia pages themselves (i.e. Fine Dining Lovers and Lovin Malta). For San Pelligrino, it should be linked to S.Pellegrino.
--Birdienest81talk 02:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Birdienest81, done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 02:32, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Looks better.
--Birdienest81talk 02:37, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 09:57, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating the 2025 Oscars for featured list because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 1929, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 ceremonies were written. Birdienest81talk 09:57, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

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Here's an image review from me! Arconning (talk) 13:08, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • File:97th Academy Awards poster.jpg - Fair use
  • File:Sean Baker at the 2024 Toronto International Film Festival 2 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Alex Coco and Samantha Quan at the 2024 New York Film Festival (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Adrien Brody-61584.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Mikey Madison at the 2024 Toronto International Film Festival 3 (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Kieran Culkin at the 2024 New York Film Festival 2 (cropped II).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Zoe Saldaña at the 2024 Toronto International Film Festival (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Walter Salles in 2024.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:PaulTazewell-byPhilipRomano.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • File:2024-03-09 SXSW Conan Nick-Kroll Office-Space events 07090 (cropped).jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • Alt-text is proper, captions are too, all images are relevant.
    • I think it's safe to say that I'll be passing the image review. :)

OlifanofmrTennantmrTennant

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  • “Comedian Conan O'Brien hosted the show for the first time” I feel the wording implies O’Brien” has hosted again which he hasn’t
  • Link “Beverly Hills”
  • “and the first to do so in for a single film” stray in in there
  • Relevence of “Box office performance of Best Picture nominees”?
That’s what I found ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 15:55, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @OlifanofmrTennant: I've linked Beverly Hills and removed the unnecessary "in" from the sentence. However, the sentence mentioning O'Brien hosting for the first time seems warranted since it has already been announced that he will host next year's ceremony. Unless you think that would violate Wikipedia:CRYSTAL. As for the box office performance of Best Picture nominees, it's been included for every Academy Award ceremony list since data was available starting with the 55th Academy Awards (with the exception of the 93rd and 94th ones due to the pandemic making it hard to compile such figures). It's just a way to make comparisons of each nominated film.
--Birdienest81talk 01:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If O’Brians return is confirmed than I think it’s worth mentioning that hell host the following ceremony but other than that it looks good. Olliefant (she/her) 05:58, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @OlifanofmrTennant: Done - Added text mentioning O'Brien returning as host located underneath "Ratings and reception" section since there is no article on the 98th Academy Awards ceremony yet.
--Birdienest81talk 07:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "I'm Still Here also was" => "I'm Still Here was also"
  • "With his wins for producing, directing, screenwriting, and film editing, Sean Baker became...." - for context, it would be worth saying what film this was for
  • "was selected to host 2025 gala" => "was selected to host the 2025 gala"
  • "Furthermore, the Southern California wildfires affected the telecast and its surrounding events" - I can't see any need for that first word
  • "Voting for the nominations which began on January 8, 2025, was originally planned...." => "Voting for the nominations, which began on January 8, 2025, was originally planned"
  • "and the Scientific and Technical Awards gala initially planned for February 18, was delayed" => "and the Scientific and Technical Awards gala initially planned for February 18 was delayed"
  • "For the first time, broadcast was made available" => "For the first time, the broadcast was made available"
  • "presented by five actors who were featured in each of the nominated films in the category" - as worded, this indicates that all five of them were in each of the films. Change to "presented by five actors, one of whom was featured in each of the nominated films in the category"
  • "The Academy also announced that none of the five nominees for Best Original Songs" => "The Academy also announced that none of the five nominees for Best Original Song"
  • " each of the nominated songs were highlighted" => " each of the nominated songs was highlighted"
  • "Bay Area, Atlanta, or Miami[c], " - footnote should go after comma
  • "up two three composers" => "up to three composers"
  • "can received individual statuettes" => "can receive individual statuettes"
  • "Animated feature films submitted for consideration in the Best International Featured Film category" => "Animated feature films submitted for consideration in the Best International Feature Film category"
  • "writing, " Whenever O'Brien was onstage" = there's a stay space after the quote mark
  • "dropping the performances Best Original Song nominees" => "dropping the performances of the Best Original Song nominees"
  • "in favor musical tributes to James Bond and Quincy Jones" => "in favor of musical tributes to James Bond and Quincy Jones"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @ChrisTheDude: Done - I have read all of your comments and have made corrections based off of them.
--Birdienest81talk 21:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Alavense (talk) 05:11, 10 July 2025 (UTC) and Mattximus (talk)[reply]

Mattximus and I are working on bringing up the lists of municipalities of all Spanish provinces up to the standard seen in other similar featured lists. This is the tenth nomination and the list has therefore benefited from the improvements suggested by reviewers in the previous nine. Formatting is also similar to the others. In any case, all comments and suggestions are welcome and will be acted upon in a timely manner. Thanks in advance for all the comments! Alavense (talk) 05:11, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): User:LivinAWestLife

I am nominating this for featured list because the article has been significantly expanded since it was removed as a featured list over a decade ago. There is now an extensive lead and history section, the images are up to date, and the list has been updated to include all completed buildings as of 2025, with coordinates as well. There is also an informative map of the city's skyscrapers, to let readers know the layout of the skyline and the location of the city's tallest buildings. In comparison to other featured "list of tallest building" articles, such as that of Albuquerque, this article is similarly detailed, if not more so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LivinAWestLife (talkcontribs) 17:16, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose at this time, based on criteria 3(b). There are far too few inline sources in the prose sections, and the formatting in the Notes column is inconsistent. SkyscraperPage is heavily used despite being a user-generated database, so it needs to be fully replaced. SounderBruce 20:24, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It’s an issue with virtually every single tallest building article outside of a select few cities. The fact is ever since Emporis went defunct it’s the only other skyscraper database besides CTBUH (which is not very comprehensive). Somehow the world doesn’t care enough about tall buildings to release exact heights for each building.
    I agree this is a problem. I think that many of the current FL of Lists of tallest buildings would never have been featured if they were nominated today. LivinAWestLife (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment from Bgsu98

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As I said at another similar article for skyscrapers in New Jersey, this table inappropriately uses green color in violation of MOS:COLOR. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:46, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can you expand on this? A lot of other similar articles, including List of Tallest Buildings in New York City (which is featured) use green for the same purpose. I'm confused by that, and the notes state the period for which a building is the tallest building in the city anyway. LivinAWestLife (talk) 02:59, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In addition I was under the impression your opposition to the use of green on Newark's list was because there were two very similar shades of green being used, and only due to an unknown IP address editor beginning with 177. that keeps adding these green highlights to architecturally topped out buildings (which no article had before). There is only one shade of green here so this is unambiguous. LivinAWestLife (talk) 03:01, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I though that I had written those notes out. They are indeed added now so the information is visible even without color. Does that address the issue? LivinAWestLife (talk) 03:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, except you seem to have missed the Royal Centre (Vancouver). Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:12, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up. LivinAWestLife (talk) 15:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That solves the problem that I raised, so you're good there. User:PresN's comments below regarding MOS:DTAB will also have to be addressed. If there is anything there you're unsure of or need help with, please let one of us know. I will take a closer look at this article later this afternoon for a more detailed review. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:30, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Name becomes !scope=col | Name. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | style="text-align:center" | 1 becomes !scope=row style="text-align:center" | 1 (on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
  • Color is not sufficient to distinguish different rows, as colorblind users, users with poor vision, and users with screen-reader software cannot distinguish it. You need some sort of symbol to differentiate in addition to the color; typically this is an asterisk (*) or dagger (†) after the name (and in the key) - see Hugo Award for Best Novel for an example.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 22:41, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

EG

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First of all, do you post on the skyscrapers subreddit? Your username looks familiar.

That being said, I must point a few things.

  • The lead is too long per MOS:LEAD, which recommends four paragraphs at most. This is especially relevant given that the article also has extensive prose sections.
  • There is a lot of unsourced prose. This was pointed out by Bruce above, but I'll list out specific examples:
    • Para 2 of 1900s–1950s: Early development - everything from "The Sun Tower would be overtaken by..."
    • Para 3 of 1900s–1950s: Early development - everything from "The second hotel was closed in 1939..."
    • Para 3 of 1960s–1970s: Office expansion - everything from "Two notable hotel skyscrapers ..."
    • Para 2 of 1980s–1990s: Vancouverism - everything from "Coal Harbour is now characterized by high-rise residential towers."
    • 2000s–2010s: New heights - the end of paragraph 2 and all of paragraphs 3 and 4
    • 2020s–present: Beyond downtown - the ends of paragraphs 3 and 4
  • In Para 2 of 1900s–1950s: Early development, the word "stories" is used, but everywhere else it's "storeys". This should be consistent.
  • In the Tallest buildings section, in the "Notes" column, there are some rows that have text after the refs. This text should be sourced, if it's not backed by the refs already in that column.
  • In the Tallest buildings section, for row 35 (320 Granville), the height column is formatted differently than in every other row.
  • In the Map section, "aren't" should be spelled out as "are not".
  • As Bruce said, I recommend replacing SkyscraperPage as it is a user-generated source. I suggest using CTBUH for the heights, completion date, purpose, and rankings, and finding other sources for the other info.

Epicgenius (talk) 00:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @LivinAWestLife, in case you missed this. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I've seen it now. I think this candidacy is unlikely to progress further as of now so I haven't been working on the article as much of late. Will try to find sources for these eventually. Some of these buildings have no alternate sources for the heights, unfortunately, or as far as I know. I have searched quite far for those. LivinAWestLife (talk) 00:29, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
  • Out of date wording used: "This list ranks..." is tautological. Consider writing something like "Vancouver has x buildings over x tall based on CTBUH.... The first tall one was built... The most recent... The tallest is..." This would make for a better paragraph introducing the table.
  • Citations should go at the end of the note.
  • Remove all proposed buildings. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball WP:CRYSTAL so speculation and guesses really don't belong. This should be a list of tallest buildings, not tallest buildings that might one day, possibly, be built. Maybe.
  • Wording needs work on second heading "The following table ranks skyscrapers" -> "There are x buildings planned to be over x m tall under construction..." Same with next two heading paragraphs list.
  • Same with "this map shows", that's tautological. Need a paragraph that interprets the map.
Oppose for now, but with some changes this could pass. Mattximus (talk) 13:24, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Cyberlink420 (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it is an interesting topic, the included entries are well organized and well cited, and the list as exhaustive in its completeness as possible. While it is technically not fully complete, as there are a few other cancelled N64 games not listed, these games do not have coverage in reliable sources and are thus ineligible for conclusion; as such, while I continue to monitor news sites for new possible inclusions, I believe this article is now in the best shape possible, given both the current guidelines and the information available. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 05:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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  • Glad to see another video game list at FLC!
  • I don't know that the table needs a smaller font size as it is, but if you must, it can't be lower than 90% (currently: 85%), and even then, maybe just the notes column?
  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. !width=20%|Title(s) becomes !scope=col width=20%|Title(s). If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. |id="0–9"|''[[1080° Snowboarding 2]]'' becomes !scope=row id="0–9"|''[[1080° Snowboarding 2]]''. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. This is not a full review, and does not result in a support vote. --PresN 12:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    All formatting changes are now complete. Most of the lists of cancelled video games are similarly formatted, so I'll try to carry these changes over to the others as well. Honestly, most of them are in similar good shape and would also probably be worthwhile features. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    PresN - Is there a way to fix the accessibility problems without changing of the formatting that seems to come with it? I've always been perplexed with the resulting look, where one column is randomly bolded and center aligned. I'm all for accessibility but I generally think the bold/centering of the game column doesn't looks right in reference to the rest of the columns. Sergecross73 msg me 20:37, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about the bolding, but a left-align style could be applied; that might make it a little more palatable. See my sandbox for an example. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 22:51, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do think that looks better. Sergecross73 msg me 00:00, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sergecross73 and Cyberlink420: If you add the "plainrowheaders" class to the table (which I just did in Cyberlink's sandbox) it will unbold the header cells; they're right as well about what to do about left-aligning the column. --PresN 13:01, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I appreciate it. It now looks like what I had in mind when I started rewriting/cleaning up these sorts of lists. I'll be sure to use this moving forward to eliminate the accessibility concerns too. Sergecross73 msg me 14:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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  • Please change the first sentence per MOS:THISISALIST.
  • Please add row scopes.
  • Please add column scopes.
  • Any available images?
  • Please archive all sources as you have already done most.
  • Why are some games listed without publishers?
  • Please link Nintendo in the Metal Slader Glory 2 row.
  • In this nomination you say "While it is technically not fully complete" and in the article it says "all known games that were announced", please fix this discrepancy.
  • Please link Windows in the 360: Three Sixty row.
  • Please add table captions.
  • Ping me when done or if you don't know what some things are. History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:35, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Some video games start development without a publisher, and are cancelled before they procure one. That's usually the case when I leave them blank in these sorts of lists. Sergecross73 msg me 13:11, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:History6042 Manual changes are complete, and IABot has just finished archiving the remaining links; the only exception is the blank developer/publisher fields. As Sergecross said, several of these games were cancelled because their developer never found anyone willing to publish the game, so there is no publisher to list. Similarly, some games were announced by their publishers, but no developer was confirmed in the announcement. As for images, I felt the table format does not lend itself well to including inline images. At most, I could see having pics of the N64 and 64DD in the lead, but that's about it. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    support History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cukie Gherkin

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Just setting this here. My plan is to verify that there are no reliable sources for any cancelled games not on this list. If I find any in the search I am doing, I will post the games and sources here that I believe should be included, if any. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely look at the talk page, then, as it lists several games still in need of sources. Would love to find one for X'Treme Roller in particular, since it's a little ironic that a game with a playable prototype doesn't currently qualify for the list. -- Cyberlink420 (talk)
I'll check out for that then, and I'll post my findings there in a thread. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 00:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Still working on it. I found some sources, but only a couple missing games I found that were verified A) in development for Nintendo 64 and B) cancelled. So far, I would recommend adding Vampire Circus and Aquaria, as both are verified to have development ended or at least not materialized. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 07:15, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Both games have been added. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 13:47, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now, I hate to do this, but I feel like I must oppose this nomination. In my spotcheck, I went through 0-9 and A, and I found that nine out of 17 had minor to major citation issues, not even accounting for ambiguity re: whether something was cancelled. This leads me to believe that there are likely dozens of potential issues of OR. I do not think it a difficult thing to fix, but it will take a lot of time to read through and find sources to cite uncited info. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:55, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I question how one is supposed to cite something's nonexistence? The existing sources verify that the games existed at one point, but much of the time, the game was announced, and then no further mention was made of it ever again. How do you cite an absence of information? -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 03:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not talking about that; I'm talking about information absent that is citable, like the publishing of Cubivore in North America and the entry on Actua Golf making assumptions that the work on it was put into the PGA game. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 03:25, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I opted to do a spotcheck on the B's, but it only made me solidified in my concerns about whether the list is ready to be featured. As detailed below, one entry misstates what sources said about Blade & Barrel's connection to Knives Edge, which to me is a major issue (and feels like it would have been caught on a thorough review of the sources). I would strongly recommend withdrawing and ensuring that all information is fully accurate. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:18, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pass. I stand by the quality of the work Sergecross and I have put in on this page over the last year and a half. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You two have obviously done good work, but this does not mean that a page has been thoroughly vetted for featured page standards. Did you go through each entry to ensure that every claim is attributed before nominating? Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:03, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by Cukie Gherkin

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I'll be doing a spotcheck to ensure the accuracy of the claims in the list. I will format it by game, skipping any games where I feel the entries are adequately sourced. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:43, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

0-9

  1. 360: Three Sixty: In the source, it only refers to a game called "3Sixty". Without evidence that this version was called "360: Three Sixty", it should be called "3Sixty" and link to 360: Three Sixty
    My version of the entry included both titles. I'm not sure why that was changed. I usually list off alternate tentative/working titles to clear that sort of stuff up. Sergecross73 msg me 19:34, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  2. 40 Winks: Nintendo Power is not mentioned in any of the sources, nor is the existence of review copies
    Added. Source was present in its respective article. Sergecross73 msg me 19:48, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  3. 64 Wars: Should mention compatibility with GB Wars 2, as indicated in the Spaceworld Guide Book, 1v1v1 gameplay (IDK how to phrase that to be fair), and polygonal battle scenes
    Added the bit about 3D and GBW2. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  4. 7th Legion: In researching this to see if a stronger source on its cancellation should be found, I found this article: [1] Not only was I not able to find a source on its cancellation, I actually found that IGN still listed a release date. Do you have any sources that contradict this obvious mistake?
    For the record, regarding 7th Legion, almost no 64DD games were released. 64DD#Released suggests only 10 came out. Its hard to find sourcing because it's Japan only stuff for a 1990s console, but from my reading on it, it barely released at all. After years of issues and delays, they just released a handful of games to try to recoup some of their costs at least. Sergecross73 msg me 19:28, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A

  1. Acclaim Sports Soccer: One source identifies the alternate name as "Major League Soccer".
    Added. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Actua Golf: I feel like the sources don't clarify that no Actua Sports titles were released on any platforms after this. Consider cutting this. Also, I think the source may have been misinterpreted; it doesn't seem to suggest that development on Actua Golf was repurposed, just that the dev team of Actua Sports worked on this too.
    Cut the "any platform" bit. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Animal Leader: The localization of Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest is unsourced
    Added. Source was present in its respective article. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Assault: Retribution: The game does not seem to be mentioned in the source (it seems like they're calling it Assault? If so, it is also not sourcing that it's a port or of what game)
    Assault and Assault: Retribution are the same game; Retribution was just its subtitle in North America, while it was just Assault in Europe. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Attack!: PlayStation platform not cited
    Removed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 06:16, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

B

  1. BattleSport 2: Three issues: one, both sources use BattleStorm II. Two, Acclaim is mentioned in GamePro 107 as being involved in publishing, but not mentioned in the list. Three, that it was slated for release on the Panasonic M2 is not verified.
Updated title. Acclaim is only mentioned in reference to the PS1 version, with no indication that they were publishing the N64 version as well. The M2 mention seems to have been inherited from the main article, which makes the same claim; it's since been removed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Beetle Adventure Racing 2: Two points: the source doesn't refer to it as Beetle Adventure Racing 2, and the critical success of the predecessor should be either verified using a non-biased source, or it should be clarified that the development team viewed it as a critical success
Updated the title and removed the "critical success" bit. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Blade & Barrel: The timing of the announcement is not verified in any of the sources (all of which are dated 1997). Also, "some members of the press speculated that elements of the game were carried over into Kemco's later aerial combat game Knife Edge: Nose Gunner" is original research; the IGN source specifies that resources have been put into Knives Edge, which can and likely does just mean money, while GameSpot merely states that it is not known whether it has anything to do with Blade & Barrel.
Updated to remove announce year. I maintain the note about the press speculation is accurate, but I'm not interested in fighting over it, so it's been removed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which source(s) do you believe demonstrated press speculation, and what exact passage are you citing for that? Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The exact same two you already cited, which leave room to be interpreted differently by different readers/editors. Again, though, I'm not interested in arguing over it, which is why it was removed. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it important to clarify, since there was an earlier instance of pointing to a citation in an entry's page, not featuring an inline citation verifying info is an issue that causes the list to fail FLC criteria 3b. Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delegate comment here: to make sure we're on the same page, I want to start off by saying that I was very excited to see this nomination; I've been a WPVG member for nearly 20 years and have been doing lists for a long time, and was really happy to see what could be the start of a series of FLs. I am also very familiar with the difficulty of getting precise source backing for games from the 90s, especially Japanese games, especially games that didn't even come out; this is truly a monumental undertaking and I respect that. But to add context, most source reviews find 0 concerns with the sources not backing the content, and the ones that do find issues find only a couple small ones. Spotchecks are also typically just checking a handful of citations, not checking hundreds.

At this point, Cukie has found problems with 12 out of the first 19 rows, representing checking 6% of the table and 12% of the references, and they spent a week on it. Some of these are small or gray areas- lack of specificity in the source, or things that could be added. But some are just flat out details not provided in the cited sources, and again, the expected number of problems when checking ~10% of the sources is 0, or like, 1. I appreciate that y'all have put a ton of work into this list - it's a very ambitious project! - but at this point I really recommend that y'all do a very deep scouring of the rest of the list for issues, because if the expectation is that if another reviewer looks that hard at the other 94% of the table (which would take months at this rate) that they'll find just as many issues - or even more than a handful of issues! - and y'all won't check until a reviewer catches it, then that's really not a reasonable ask for reviewers. --PresN 02:50, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My frustration comes from the fact that I did spot-check it before initially submitting. And then spot-checked it again after the first start on a review, hence all those revisions between the 16th and 17th. I understand that individually checking 300+ sources isn't fair for any reviewer, to which I fully agree, but claiming that I "won't check until a reviewer catches it" hardly feels like a fair assessment. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Older nominations

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Nominator(s): Hij802 (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because the quality of this list matches that of other featured lists. The most prominent example would be List of tallest buildings in Jersey City, which is of equal quality as to the Newark article. As someone who is a frequent editor of both articles, they both share the same consistency and list quality. The list is up to date, does not contain conflicting information, and is visually appealing. I believe it is worthy of featured list status.Hij802 (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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  • Tables need row scopes.
  • Tables need column scopes
  • Tables need captions.
  • Images need alt texts other than just repeats of the captions.
  • Please make use of website URLs or website names, not use them both in sources.
  • Please add archives to all sources.
  • Reddit is not a reliable source.
  • Please make the Notes sections full sentences or remove/add periods where necessary.
  • Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:41, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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Per MOS:COLOR, colored backgrounds cannot be used as the sole means of conveying information, as is the case here with two different shades of green. I see that this same color scheme is used at List of tallest buildings in Jersey City, but that article was promoted in 2008 when standards were much lower. Neither article should be using color on the tables the way these are. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sophisticatedevening

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  • My first thought when seeing this was "woah that's a giant lede image", for my display at least this squishes a significant portion the lede, kind of like a MOS:SANDWICH but with only one image.
  • Speaking of images, all still need alt text like History6042 said.
  • There is a ton of duplicated citations, I'm hestitant to slap a sticker on it with them so I'll just list them here based on Special:permalink/1298847319: 66 and 114 are duplicates, same for 105 and 107, then for 116 and 193, then for 129 and 131, then for 157 and 158, then for 167 and 173, and then for 168 and 174.
  • External links section needs to go on the very bottom, see MOS:ORDER.
  • This skyline section honestly seems kind of pointless, I personally would get rid of it or maybe move it to the bottom as a gallery if you want.
  • Some of these sentences like "Received approval from the Newark Landmarks & Historic Preservation Commission in October 2024. Will incorporate existing facade." are written like bullet points, try to make these full sentences.
  • I see a ton of citation needed tags present throughout the article, these need to be taken care of.
  • Ton of WP:OVERCITE throughout, some of these claims have 5-6 citations after (peaking at 8), only 1 or 2 should be needed.
  • Some of these links in the see also section like Pavilion and Colonnade Apartments and Robert Treat Center feel irrelevant and unhelpful.
  • For some reason in the section "Timeline of tallest buildings since 1868", these images are outside of the list itself. I would remove these or find some to incorporate into the list for uniformity.

Probably more that I missed out on, but I would like to see these taken care of before supporting. Cheers! Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 21:02, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • What makes the Newark skyline " a distinctive skyline"? What is meant by "made more prominent". These are vague and the language needs to be more encyclopedic.
  • "numerous high-rise projects which will greatly change the city's skyline have been proposed" - very clunky writing.
  • Why is there a subheading for Skyline, when it's just a gallery of images?
  • Out of date wording used: "This list ranks..." is tautological. Consider writing something like "Newark has x buildings over x tall based on standard height measurement which excludes antennas... (essentially define this term). The first tall one was built... The most recent... The tallest is..." This would make for a better paragraph introducing the table
  • "An equal sign (=) following a rank indicates the same height between two or more buildings. The "Year" column indicates the year in which a building was completed." These are two notes and should be in the notes section, linked to the appropriate column. You already have one note, so it can be added with that one.
  • Remove all buildings under construction from the first table and move to the under construction table. It's strange to have an under construction table without including the buildings under construction.
  • Remove all approved and proposed. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball WP:CRYSTAL so speculation and guesses really don't belong. This should be a list of tallest buildings, not tallest buildings that might one day, possibly, be built. Maybe.
  • "This lists buildings that once held the title of tallest building in Newark." should be replaced by an explanatory paragraph that provides context to the table.
  • Are you sure Airport Traffic Control Tower should be included, it's a tower, not really a skyscraper.
  • I will have to oppose for now, there are quite a few changes needed to get this up to featured list status.

Mattximus (talk) 13:14, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hij802: Will you be returning to this review? Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:31, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like there is a lot of work to be done in the Newark article. This is an effort that will take beyond just myself, or will likely take several weeks or months to fix, as I am not active on here everyday. Hij802 (talk) 18:25, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Dan the Animator 05:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Started working on this about a few months ago and I think it's about as ready for the FL process as it can be. This is my first award list FL nom so excited to see how it turns out and hoping to eventually use this as a general model/template for the other Ukrainian award list-type articles. Many thanks in advance to everyone for the comments and feedback! :) Dan the Animator 05:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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This was originally a drive-by comment. More thorough comments will appear below this brief earlier discussion. Is there a reason all of 2010 is italicized? Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: The footnote on 2010 and the lead explains into more detail but for 2010, the three laureates listed were selected to win the prize but the president never signed the decree needed to make that award official & to give the rewards. That said, would it help if something else was added? The Ukrainian Wikipage formats 2010 the same as 2013/2018 (i.e. with just a short paragraph explaining that year's situation) but I feel like that formatting is inaccurate since 2010 did have laureates in a way. Dan the Animator 06:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgsu98: I added into the lead a brief explanation so it now reads "were selected by the award committee for 2010's prize (shown in the table in italics)" though let me know if additional changes/additions would make it more clear. Also can make it bolded too for greater contrast though I think the italics stand out enough as is. What do you think? Also thanks for being the first nom commenter :) Dan the Animator 22:45, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Infobox
  • Lest I bring the wrath of the Capitalization Police© into this discussion, there appear to be some capitalization irregularities in the infobox. I would have State prize as that does not appear to be a proper noun, and then I would capitalize the first word of each item (ie. Oustanding contributions, A diploma).
  • Done fixed State prize, Outstanding, and changed the rewards field to begin with Diploma. Speaking of capitalization, should the article be moved to "Oleksandr Dovzhenko State prize"? Official legislation refers to it as a State prize and it would make the article more consistent though I'm not sure if there's any standards for award article titles. Let me know what you think. Also I wouldn't worry too much about the Capitalization Police©, I think my recent edits should take care of any of their concerns ;)
  • I'm not sure a special notice of posthumous awards is necessary in the infobox, since they will no doubt be noted in the table below. I assume the 3 posthumous awards are included in the 37 total?
  • Yup, the 37 includes the posthumous laureates. I added it in since the award infobox does have the field for it and it is a useful stat though I can take it out if it's too confusing. The lead and table both mention/note the posthumous laureates.
Lead
  • Considering today's climate, I would probably not refer to anyone as "Soviet Ukrainian". I would just stick with "Ukrainian".
  • Dovzhenko primarily self-identified as and is generally considered by sources as a Soviet citizen. That said, he was also born in Soviet Ukraine to a family with Ukrainian heritage and is strongly associated with Ukraine, especially in the context of this award. Thus, the most accurate/straightforward description of his identity is Soviet Ukrainian and the link to Soviet Ukraine also clarifies this too.
  • I would recommend a proper lead (brief description of the award, brief explanation of the process, and total number awarded), and then a separate section afterward where you can go into more detail. You have several lengthy footnotes that, quite honestly, would work better as actual text.
  • I would think the lead as-is is proper. It already has all the components you mentioned: a brief description of the award (paragraphs 1/2), brief explanation of the process (paragraphs 1/2), and total number awarded (paragraph 3) and doesn't include any excess information (all the lengthy details are placed in the footnotes which I think works well here since the majority of the info in the footnotes isn't necessary for a general understanding of the award). This is also supposed to be a list after all and I tried to model it on the other current award FLs (particularly the Arthur C. Clarke Award) and I think the current organization of important/general info in the lead and extra/detailed info in the efns works well.
  • "for 2010's prize" – Consider rephrasing this as "for the prize in 2010".
  • Done
  • "For Huba, he was later awarded as the sole laureate for 2014..." This fragment sounds awkward. "Awarded" needs a direct object; maybe a different verb like "recognized" or "honored" would work better?
  • I reworded it to For Huba, he was later officially given the award as the sole laureate for 2014 in recognition of his overall career and contributions to Ukrainian cinema. Let me know if it's better now.
  • "No individual has yet officially received the prize more than once although Huba remains the sole person to have won the competition (i.e. be selected by the award committee) twice: in 2014 and in 2010's unawarded prize." This is contradictory, although I get what you're trying to say. I would simply ended the sentence at "once", and then start another sentence to explain the technicality behind the unawarded title.
  • I thought it would be good to keep these two in the same sentence to emphasize the distinction between winning the prize and being awarded the prize. The statement "No individual has yet officially received the prize more than once" isn't correct without the caveat put in by the second part because, depending on how that statement is read, technically Huba did actually receive the prize twice. For 2010, he just didn't get the diploma/medal/cash rewards and, based on a literal/strict reading of the prize's rules, the prize was not given because of the unsigned presidential decree (although as some of the other footnotes imply, the award often historically hasn't been kept to all of its rules, mostly with deadlines and such). This caveat is reflected in the official source cited (Ref #6 from the Dovzhenko Film Center) which describes the 2010 award as actually having been "awarded" (quote: In addition, in 2010, the film crew of "The Declaration" was awarded the Dovzhenko State Prize, but the ruthless role of Soviet functionaries was skillfully intercepted by officials of the new era: for unknown reasons, the order was not signed at the "highest level."). Personally, I think if the sentence is fully understandable, that might be the most important thing because explaining this sort of technicality without the excess detail that's left for the footnote is difficult.
Table
  • I would capitalize the first word in each cell (ie. Actor, Director, etc.).
  • The capitalization, spelling, order, etc. is all taken verbatim from the official presidential decrees cited (this is also explained in footnote m). I think for accuracy, given the Profession/Honorifics column isn't necessarily supposed to represent the laureates' Profession/Honorifics but just what the presidential decree says, keeping it source accurate would be ideal.
  • Maybe remove the "for his/their..." Just start with "Outstanding contribution to... blah, blah, blah.
  • Again, per above, everything was copied verbatim from the presidential decrees. For source accuracy, this should be kept as-is. Also worth mentioning other award FLs also have their rationale column entries starting with a dizzying number of "for"s (one example)
  • For years where there are multiple recipients, how did you determine what order to list them? Barring any explanation, I would list them alphabetically, since they're all (presumably) equal.
  • Unless there's a mistake somewhere, they should all be listed in the same order as they are in their cited presidential decrees.
  • 2010 table formatting
  • Although all the above about capitalization, the "for", and ordering are based on the presidential decrees, for 2010, because there is no presidential decree, it's done mostly for consistency with the others (i.e., capitalization matching all the other years, the "for" wording keeping it consistent with the other year rationales, and the ordering based on the other group years (1998, 1999, 2004, etc.) where the director is always listed first, then the cinematographer, and then the composer
  • Movie titles should be italicized and without quotation marks.
  • Fixed everywhere in the article except the table. Because 2010 is distinguished with italics, I thought italicizing the movie titles would make it somewhat confusing. There is also the issue of whether the Declaration of Love movie title should/shouldn't be italicized since the whole text as-is for 2010 is already italicized. What do you think? I could use bolding instead of italics to distinguish 2010 but I feel like that would make it stand out way too much compared to the rest of the table. There's also the option of color but again it would stand out too much and color is generally less preferable for creating distinctions in tables. Also, as mentioned in the much earlier conversation/replies, the Ukrainian Wikipage formats 2010 similar to the unawarded years and my intention with the italics was to make it so 2010 does stand out a little but not too much since a lot of the sources do ultimately treat the 2010 laureates as laureates
Bgsu98: Done, I added in the underlining and italicized the rest of the movie/book titles Dan the Animator 21:10, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Having the 2010 data italicized is fine. You can merge those reference cells since they all show the same reference (currently no. 6).
  • I think having individual reference cells for each row just looks nicer (the alternative creates excess whitespace that can't be removed) and it doesn't hurt to repeat the refs for each row imo
  • This is an entirely personal preference, but I would shade in the 2013 & 2018 long cells with a slightly different shade to make it stand out. Personally, I use color no. e5e4e2.
  • Done perfect suggestion, thanks Bgsu98! :) Went with the light gray default color which felt a bit better for this list
  • I would do the same for 2020 and 2023 with some text like "No prize awarded". You don't have to provide an explanation since a) this was already mentioned in the text above, and b) you don't an explanation to give.
  • Done
Footnotes
  • Like I said, those footnotes are ginormous, and really should be incorporated into the article proper.
  • I don't think it makes sense to have that sort of detail as prose imo and the footnotes help for convenient placement

I always appreciate seeing Ukrainian interests promoted on Wikipedia, so this is a great article, but the structure needs some work. Please let me know if you have any questions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Bgsu98:! :) Finished replying to everything I think and let me know if the replies make sense and if there's anything else I can do. Dan the Animator 05:47, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgsu98: it's been a minute and I think I addressed everything above so let me know your thoughts. Hope all's well and thanks for the review :) Dan the Animator 23:09, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dantheanimator: You have some dates formatted D/M and some M/D. You need to pick one (probably D/M), and make sure they're all consistent. Additionally, the notation about the dagger icon, which you have embedded in a footnote, needs to be placed above the table per MOS:LEGEND. The table also needs a caption. Those are all edits that need to be done. I still strongly believe that rowspanning the references makes sense, especially considering the column immediately before it – the Rationales – are already rowspanned. I also believe the text in the Profession and Rational column should be in sentence-case (meaning the first word should be capitalized). Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:38, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98:
  • Done I think I fixed all the date formatting so they are all DMY (personally, the dates read very strangely the way they are now so if someone else could verify that they're still grammatical that'd be great). Also let me know if I accidentally missed any
  • For the legend, could you give an example FL with the formatting you had in mind? All of the FLs with legends that I've found include it for cases where color is also used together with the symbol and I can't find the legend template that seems best suited for this case Any format is fine, as long as it appears before the table.
  • Should already be done I think?? The table includes caption="Tabulated list of recipients of the Oleksandr Dovzhenko State Prize" but I'm not sure if this is a sufficient alternative to the code in the table markup page you linked (in my past successful FLNs, I never had an issue with using this caption markup so hopefully it should be alright as-is) I checked and the caption is set for screen-reader, so it's all good.
  • Done After second thought and testing it out, I added in the rowspanning for the Refs column where applicable. Thanks for suggesting it again Bgsu98! :)
  • For the reasons given earlier above and considering other current FLs have it the same, I still don't think that making the two columns in sentence case is necessary
Also, I wanted to bring this question from above up again but do you think the article title should stay as-is or be changed to "Oleksandr Dovzhenko State prize"? The Ukrainian language name has 'state' uppercased and 'prize' lowercased ("Державна премія") but in English, at least in the U.S. in my experience, it's common to treat official award names as proper nouns. What do think? That's up to you; I would probably keep it all capitalized.
And sorry about the delay... got caught up with other things for a bit
Dan the Animator 02:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dantheanimator: Once you get the legend in place, I can sign off on this. Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:07, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: done, added in all the relevant markup and templates. Let me know what you think and many thanks for the suggestion :) Dan the Animator 01:08, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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  • File:Ukraine award Dovzhenko.JPG - Public Domain; Image review pass
  • You seem to be using American english, add the use american english template
  • Done
  • also add use dmy dates template
  • Done
  • The award was established by presidential decree on 10 September 1994 by Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Dovzhenko's birth" → "The award was established by presidential decree on 10 September, 1994. Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma did so to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Dovzhenko's birth" making it into two sentences will vary the prose, make it shorter and easier to understand.
  • I think the sentence as currently written isn't particularly long and is straightforward imo. Also don't think it makes sentence to put "10 September 1994" and "100th anniversary of Dovzhenko's birth" in separate sentences since the latter directly refers to the former
  • Sure but then can you make it "The award was established by Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma's presidential decree on 10 September 1994 by" I thought it was kind of confusing.
  • I just took out the presidential decree part since it's not too important for the sentence and is already technically implied as-is. Take a look now and let me know what you think....it definitely reads a bit better :)
  • "Committee for the Oleksandr Dovzhenko State Prize of Ukraine" should this be linked, if there is so much coverage for this prize, then there should be for individual committees, yes?
  • There is an article about the Committee on the Ukrainian Wikipedia but I couldn't find enough coverage/sources to support having a separate article here. I could make a redirect to this page if it helps though. What do you think?
  • You could make the redirect, that is fine.
  • Made the redirect. Also should apologize but I think I mixed up this prize with another since I couldn't find the committee wikipage for this award. Sorry for the mistake with that and thanks for commenting on it
  • "Award decisions are made by the Committee for the Oleksandr Dovzhenko State Prize of Ukraine—a group of eleven leading figures in the country's cinema[d] appointed by either the government of Ukraine or the Committee's chair on a voluntary basis to review prize submissions and identify the best works of Ukrainian cinema" → "Award decisions are made by the Committee for the Oleksandr Dovzhenko State Prize of Ukraine: a group of eleven leading figures in the country's cinema[d] appointed by either the government of Ukraine or the committee's chair. Serving voluntarily, their purpose is to review prize submissions in order to identify the best works of Ukrainian cinema."
  • Great suggestion! :) I split the sentences though used somewhat different wording. Take a look and let me know your thoughts
  • "The Committee's final selection is then sent to the Ukrainian president, who officially grants the award by September 10[f] through a presidential decree and designates the cash amount for that year's award.[" → "The Committee's final selection is then sent to the Ukrainian president, who, through a presidential decree, officially grants the award by September 10[f] and designates the cash amount for that year's award." I think it is more organized and prose is more varied this way
  • I did some general rewording in that and the other preceding sentences so hoping it's better now. Let me know what you think of it
  • "The same individual is eligible to receive the prize more than once, provided that at least five years have passed since the first award and that they have made new outstanding achievements in cinematography since then." → "An individual who was previously awarded the prize can receive it again, provided that at least five years have passed since the previous award and that they have made new outstanding achievements in cinematography since then." The same individual is unclear
  • The award rules technically allow anyone to receive the prize an indefinite number of times so I wanted to emphasize that the same one person could win the prize many times. I think the phrasing "An individual who was previously awarded the prize can receive it again," implies more that an individual can receive it twice and doesn't emphasize the lack of a limit. What do you think? If it helps, I could reword it as "The same person".
  • Yes, you are right. Instead you can put "An individual who was previously awarded the prize can receive it again, multiple times," Here you are emphasizing the multiple times but not making the individual part any more unclear.
  • Going through this and different options I got from ChatGPT, I think this sounds the best: "Individuals may receive the prize more than once, provided that at least five years have passed since their last award and that they have made new outstanding achievements in cinematography since then." Also made a few minor edits in the other sentences. What do you think?
  • "to the award's committee" → "to the award committee" I have seen award committee used before, but never award's committee.
  • Done switched out all instances of it
  • "when the committee notifies the president of the chosen winner" was the system to choose president of a group explained previously? I might have missed it but it seems worth explaining.
  • president refers to the President of Ukraine, who is the one who officiates the award through a presidential decree as explained in the lead's first paragraph. I thought of restating that sentence from the first paragraph here but I thought it would be too redundant. What do you think?
  • Oh okay, yes I agree it would be too redundant. However, I was confused because it says "president of the chosen winner", so I thought that the group of winners elected their own president. I see the original meaning, to clarify can you put Ukrainian president or national president. Otherwise you can also distance the "president" from the "chosen winner". Example: "the president is then notified by the committee of the winner" but then it sounds like the winner has their own committee. Maybe you can add a comma?
  • After going through this and some ChatGPT rewordings, I went with this: "when the president receives the committee’s selection", which I think also ties in well since the part of the sentence just before it kind of defines selection with "selecting the final awardee(s)". What do you think? I definitely think this is an improvement from before to say the least
  • Love to see expansion of coverage of Ukraine on Wikipedia, please ping me for further clarification or when the issues are resolved.
@Easternsahara: sorry for the second ping but I addressed all the follow-up replies and everything. The lead's gotten much better so many thanks for all the great suggestions! :) Let me know if it's better now and if there's anything else I can do or if you're ready to support. Dan the Animator 04:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the last response but yes, I support Easternsahara (talk) 23:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! :) Dan the Animator 23:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Swimmer33 (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is comprehensive and has been greatly expanded this year to show status of players that have been waived/signed in the middle of the season. Swimmer33 (talk) 19:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sophisticatedevening

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  • I will say this is a very short lead, only a one-liner. Doesn't clearly introduce people to the topic.
  • No row scopes are present.
  • No column scopes are present.
  • I'm sure there are at least some images/visual media that could be incorporated, however I see none.
  • Refs 105 and 40 are duplicates.
  • Same for refs 227 and 235.
  • A bunch of the refs have the website parameter as a url like "dream.wnba.com". Ideally this should be to the actual name of the website + wikilinked.
  • A lot of these refs actually don't have the source wikilin - ked.
  • For ref 62 you cite the NY post, which is WP:GUNREL.
  • A few of these sources like 18, 19 and 20 are missing access dates as well.
  • I'm pretty sure none of these online sources are archived, IAbot can help with that.
    Some of the links link to completed unrelated people because the basketball player of the same name has a disambiguation on Wikipedia, I would also double-check this. Easternsahara (talk) 13:09, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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  • Tables need captions.
  • Row scopes are needed.
  • Position acronyms should be explained.
  • Please archive sources. (Not mandatory)
  • Lede is too short.
  • Some images are missing alt text.

Image review

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  • Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 19:52, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment

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As the 2025 season is ongoing, perhaps this nomination should only be considered once the transactions are finished for the year. FL criterion 6 requires stability with "content [that] does not change significantly from day to day", which would not apply to an active transactions list. SounderBruce 00:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is a good point. Do I need to remove my nomination or just bump this when the season is over? Swimmer33 (talk) 12:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Swimmer33: Making a formal request to withdraw is all that is usually needed. A coordinator will then remove the nomination. Hope to see this one back here after the end of the season (and hopefully after a fifth Storm title). SounderBruce 19:27, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): TBJ (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have finally received 2 supports from the Memphis Chicks seasons page. So I am going to paste the same thing I said in the old nomination: I am doing dual nominations (managers & seasons) and am nominating this for the featured list because I want to continue to meet the quality needed to make articles like these featured in the Minor League Baseball space. Looking to improve wherever I can. TBJ (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Nature BoyMD

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  • lede: "Over its 20-year history, the club employed 15 managers with either any of them lasting more than three seasons." - "With either any" is grammatically incorrect; "with none" would be. However, I don't know if it's necessary to point out the shortness of their terms—minor league managers with short tenures is not all that unique. "Lasting more than three seasons" makes it sound like they were terminated for poor performance. They could have been, but there are any number of other reasons for a managerial replacement. I think it's best to leave it at "Over its 20-year history, the club employed 15 managers."
  • lede: Three references for the definition of manager seems excessive (the first doesn't even work). I'd stick with the MLB.com citation only.
  • The "Overview" section would greatly benefit from a greater variety of words. The first two sentences say a "manager ... managed." Sprinkle in: "led," "took charge," "ran," etc., or change the sentence structure so such words become unnecessary.
  • As above, I don't know if it's critical to point out the shortness of each manager's term. Listing the seasons or number there of is fine, but constantly pointing it out is a bit much.
  • "Billy Gardner was the next manager to have managed the team as he would last a season." What does lasting a season have to do with being the next manager? How about, "Billy Gardner took over the team in 1979."
  • "would, would, would" - There's a user who has written an essay on using the word "would" when not needed. It's used 12 times in the article, 9 in the first paragraph. Change them as needed: "would run" > "ran", "would qualify" > "qualified", "would finish" > "finished", etc.
  • "2 seasons" - spell it out: "two seasons" (see: MOS:NUMERAL)
  • "SL championship" > "Southern League championship" (Two instances. There's nothing on the page to indicate what "SL" means.)
  • "only to fall in the Western Division title" > "only to fall in the Western Division series" (They didn't fall in a title.)
  • "Rick Renick, from" - That comma isn't needed.
  • "winning 132 wins" > "winning 132 games"
  • "4th" & "3rd" > "fourth" & "third" (see: MOS:ORDINAL)
  • "While both recorded above-.500 campaigns" - "above-.500" sounds odd. You also used "recorded" in the previous sentence. How about "While both led their teams to winning records"?
  • The table says Sal Rende was an award winner or all-star with the team, but there's no reference to support this or any mention of it in the prose.
  • I suspect other managers may have been tabbed as coaches for all-star games. It would be worth a look to find out.
  • "In 1990, Cox became the only manager to win a SL championship for the franchise, winning the First-Half Western Division title,[20] before defeating the Birmingham Barons in 5 games to advance to the SL championship.[21]" - Spell out "Southern League", drop the comma before ref number 20, move that ref to the end of the sentence, and spell out "5" as "five".
  • The 1990 championship is mentioned as being their only league title in the above sentence and the one that follows it. It's probably best to mention this once. I'd choose to keep it in the second.
  • "Since Cox left the managerial role, six new managers filled in the void for the last six seasons of the franchise; Brian Poldberg ..." - "six new managers" > "six other managers (or "men", "people", etc." (Unless they really were new to managing baseball teams.) Also, change the semicolon to a colon.
  • The last two paragraphs feel like they should be moved to become the last two paras of the lede. (This will necessitate linking some terms.)
  • NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't reply I say "Done" to every point provided:
    • Point #1: Done.
    • Point #2: Done.
    • Point #3: Done.
    • Point #4: Done (I will keep the "no managerial term lasted as long as two complete seasons" part just so readers know their time as managers weren't a long stint.)
    • Point #5: Done.
    • Point #6: Done. (Removed every "would")
    • Point #7: Done.
    • Point #8: Done (Does the wording "Southern League championship (SL)" work or not?)
    • Point #9: Done.
    • Point #10: Done.
    • Point #11: Done.
    • Point #12: Done.
    • Point #13: Done.
    • Point #14: You're correct. Rende did not win an award, nor was he honoured as an all-star, as the crosses were originally for Southern League Hall of Famers. Also, it appears Tommy Jones was the manager during the 1986 All-Star game, so I suppose I found a compromise there. So consider this point done.
    • Point #15: Done. Per above.
    • Point #16: Done.
    • Point #17: Done.
    • Point #18: Done.
    • Point #19: Done.
  • 19/19 - 100% done.
    TBJ (talk) 18:32, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @NatureBoyMD Done! TBJ (talk) 19:51, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Those look good. I made a few additional changes myself. Here are the only other things I've noticed:
    • I'm afraid the lede image of Jeff Cox doesn't qualify for the claim of public domain for having been published between 1978 and March 1, 1989, without being registered for copyright. The team would have still been in Spring Training on March 1, they could not have reported to Memphis, and could not have been photographed in team jerseys, nor could a team set of trading cards have been published by March 1. It's a great picture, but not valid for free use.
    • You mentioned Cox being promoted to Omaha and the resulting move of Poldberg to Memphis. Since you've added that, it would be nice to have something like this for all managers. Where was a manager the year before? Were they promoted from a team at a lower class? Was there an affiliation change and the new manager led the previous Double-A club? Etc. (See List_of_Nashville_Sounds_managers#History for examples.)
    • NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't reply until I say "Done" to all points provided:
    • Point #1: Added a 1986 Jones Picture
    • Point #2: Working on it (Sure. I can work something out for that. Give me a couple of days for researching).
    TBJ (talk) 14:40, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    For Point 2, I will slowly, but surely, add every single managerial change. TBJ (talk) 15:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Slow week due to helping out my sick parents. Will get back to this this upcoming weekend. TBJ (talk) 20:30, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I will resume work on Wikipedia after a long break. TBJ (talk) 14:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @NatureBoyMD As I am looking for information about Memphis manager, I clipped this newspaper source of apparently another guy filling in to manage for the team. Looks like they served 2 games https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-memphis-press-scimitar-renick-to-rem/176396366/
    What should I write here? Is this an additional manager or should I make a note on this? TBJ (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-memphis-press-scimitar-fond-farewell/176396719/
    This also briefly talks about the other guy. TBJ (talk) 03:38, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Something like I did with Nashville manager Jim Hoff (no. 12). This article says Goldetsky managed the rest of the season after Renick's hospital visit, making it likely more than two games. In the prose, I'd say something like (other sources can help you fill in the blanks): "Renick missed the last X games of the 1983 season due to an inner ear (infection?). Coach Larry Goldetsky, managed the team for the remainder of the season." (With appropriate references to support all of this.) In the table, (like with my Hoff example) show Renick's record from 1982 through his last game in 1983, add Goldetsky as manager number 4 with his record being the last X games of the season, and adjust the numbering of following managers. It may be hard to find references plainly telling each manager's record that season, so you may have to use a reference showing Memphis' win-loss record as of Renick's last game, and that same reference with another showing the overall record for Goldetsky. There are some other similar examples of interims at List of Nashville Sounds coaches. NatureBoyMD (talk) 12:05, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What sucks is that Memphis doesn't recognize them on the managerial sheet for the Memphis Chicks (2019 Memphis Redbirds Media Guide). TBJ (talk) 14:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't edit the blank space in the page. I am currently finding stats online for Goldetsky. TBJ (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Some teams are better at that than others. I think they sometimes ignore interims. One could surely find examples of MLB teams who have had managers suspended for a game or two that don’t recognize a coach filling in for that role. NatureBoyMD (talk) 15:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-charlotte-observer-southern-league-s/176417025/
    Found this standings page for the standings prior to Renick's hospitalization! TBJ (talk) 15:55, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @NatureBoyMD Did we just find the jackpot TBJ (talk) 15:55, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also I am removing the "woulds" in the paragraphs so don't touch anything yet TBJ (talk) 16:00, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-charlotte-news-southern-league-first/176417510/
    Also found the first-half standings too TBJ (talk) 16:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Based on This:
    1982
    Mgr.
    Rick Renick: 70–74. First Half & Second Half Combined
    1983 Mgrs.
    Rick Renick: 36–35, First Half
    Rick Renick: 23–45, Second Half
    Larry Goldetsky: 2–5, Second Half TBJ (talk) 16:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, does this count as a game for Goldetsky and not Renick as well
    https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-memphis-press-scimitar-battered-chic/176418788/ TBJ (talk) 16:24, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, once we finish this, Imma continue adding in information about managerial changes between Rick Mathews (1984, even though Mathews' name is somehow a ghost on Newspapers.com) and Tommy Jones (1985 to 1986). TBJ (talk) 16:32, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I would not count that one since Renick started the game. It was Renick's batting order and defensive positioning. NatureBoyMD (talk) 19:39, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright then. Other than all that, I have finished adding the long history tab, and made sure each hire was addressed.
    @NatureBoyMD Done TBJ (talk) 19:58, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I made some edits for repetitive text and accuracy (Memphis didn't hire any managers, their MLB affilates did). My only remaining comments are:
  • Maybe mention something about Johnson's 1994 season. It just says he managed the team, and that's all.
  • The prose ends abrubtly with it being their last season with no explanation why. Maybe mention the SL franchise being relocated because of the arrival of the PCL Redbirds.
  • The totals in the table add up to 2,857 games and 1,418 wins, but the totals given show 2,858 games and 1,419 wins.
  • That's all. NatureBoyMD (talk) 13:18, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't reply to this until I say Finished.
    • Point #1: I appreciate it, Nature.
    • Point #2: Done.
    • Point #3: Done.
    • Point #4: Done.
    @NatureBoyMD Finished. TBJ (talk) 19:16, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Support - NatureBoyMD (talk) 12:22, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks boss TBJ (talk) 19:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

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- All citations have been sourced & archived. - TBJ

I am keep this page open until its gets promoted/archived.

Nominator(s): Tone 07:01, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, time for a big one. China has 60 World Heritage Sites and 61 tentative sites (these two numbers may change in the upcoming week since the UNESCO assembly is taking place but we'll update if needed). The list is therefore massive. And this is also the reason why the map this time is set a bit differently than usual, but I think it works fine. Otherwise, standard style. Do not get afraid of reviewing it, I believe it is a fascinating read. Tone 07:01, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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  • I very much respect and appreciate Easternsahara’s contributions, but I disagree with his statement that the Mangrove image is so bad, it would be better to have no image. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:55, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Prose comments
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  • "It has featured in poems and paintings and has a school of painting named after it" → "It has featured in poems and paintings, having a school of paintings named after it" we don't want to have 2 ands in one sentence generally
  • "Of these, the most famous is the Terracotta Army (pictured), thousands of life-sized and realistic terracotta statues of warriors, as well as horses and chariots. " → "Of these, the most famous is the Terracotta Army (pictured). The Terracotta Army consists of thousands of life-sized, realistic statues of warriors, horses, and chariots." I thought that the wording was clunky and the sentence was a bit long
  • The defining feature of the landscape is the collection " → "a collection" I think a sounds more natural over the since the topic is only being introduced
  • "Qufu was the birthplace of Confucius, the great Chinese philosopher, educator, and politician, who died in the 5th century BCE." → "a great Chinese philospher," There are other great Chinese philosophers.
  • will add more comments
  • I think it is allowed but I just want to confirm, a lot of these comments about the World Heritage Sites are positive in nature rather than netural, has this been okay for other World Hertiage lists? I think so but idk about consensus, so I just want to clarify.

Dantheanimator

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  • I noticed there's no mention of Taiwan in the article and would assume it's because it's not a signatory of the convention but some explanation should still probably be added to the lead to clarify it, i.e. explain that since the end of the civil war, Taiwan has been disputed between the Taiwan-based ROC and mainland-based PRC, with both claiming the island as their own territory. Because of the One-China Policy and protests by the PRC, Taiwan has had limited representation in many international organizations and has been unable to join the convention. Also answering the questions: Why has the PRC been unable to add any sites for Taiwan? Has the PRC tried before? How did it go? What is the official UNESCO position? Has that position changed since the convention began? How are cultural heritage sites in/around Taiwan handled? What is Taiwan's position on the status of UNESCO sites in mainland China? Any other related information?
  • For the main map caption, mention that the disputed territories of Taiwan and claimed parts of Arunachal Pradesh are shown in dark tan and broken lines for claimed borders while the claimed borders in the disputed territories of the Kashmir region are shown with broken lines and map coloring there reflecting de facto territorial control
  • For the "Location (province)" column in both tables, for better accuracy, it should changed to "Location (prov. level)" or something similar, with prov. level/something similar being a abbr. template for "province-level" linking to Province-level divisions of China; a efn note along the lines of {{efn|The four types of administrative divisions in China at the provincial level, which is the [[Administrative divisions of China#Summary|highest order administrative division in the country]], are [[Provinces of China|provinces]] (23), [[Autonomous regions of China|autonomous regions]] (5), [[Municipalities of China|municipalities]] (4), and the two [[Special administrative regions of China|special administrative regions]] of [[Hong Kong]] and [[Macau]]. China's recognized World Heritage Sites as well as the sites on its tentative list are spread out across all of these administrative divisions except for the [[province of Taiwan]], which is [[Political status of Taiwan|disputed and currently controlled]] by the generally unrecognized [[Republic of China]].}} should also be added (I checked a bit and it looks like Taiwan is the only subdivision without any sites either on the WHS/tentative list but could use a second look and feel free to reword/reorganize this footnote too
  • Not as important but something I was curious, has any of China's WHS sites ever been listed on List of World Heritage in Danger? Maybe not so much for this list but it might make sense to include brief mentions of each country's previous site(s) inclusion on that list if applicable, when/how long they were on that list, and for what reasons they were listed and then removed
  • Also something else I was thinking might maybe make a good addition to the WHS lists in the lead is if all the WHS sites of that country are also simultaneously recognized as national heritage sites by that country's legislation (i.e. if that country also classifies WHS heritage sites as national protected areas/heritage sites). In the case of this list, something like "All of China's World Heritage Sites and sites on its tentative list are also simultaneously protected by the country's legislation as national priority protected sites for cultural sites and protected areas for natural sites."

@Tone: As always great work with continuing the WHS series and this list overall looks amazing! I have to admit I might end up using this when planning a future vacation ;) Dan the Animator 04:27, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another comment to add on to earlier suggestions, it might be worth also explaining what UNESCO's official position is on sites located in other disputed territories claimed by China but controlled by other countries. Taiwan should still have its own distinct, detailed mention given its unique case and Taiwan not being a party to the convention but other disputed territories should also be addressed if possible. Dan the Animator 21:59, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Dantheanimator: Good comments! Yes, political issues here, but since this is a list of UNESCO sites and follows the official source, I would not want to go too much into details. I tend to keep the articles to the minimum in view of content, otherwise they quickly spiral to large lengths. List of sites, map, dates, endangered (if), shared sites, country serving on UNESCO Committee, that's more or less it. There are no sites and also no tentative sites in the disputed parts of the map. For example, the FLs for India and Venezuela do not mention details on the disputed areas either (and not sites in that area). I would consider adding a discussion in a situation similar to List of World Heritage Sites in Serbia, where the Medieval Monuments in Kosovo had been listed some years before Kosovo declared independence. The other specific situation is with the Old City of Jerusalem site, which was proposed by Jordan. There actually is a List of potential World Heritage Sites in Taiwan, but this list is not recognized by UNESCO because of the reasons you mention above. There is some discussion in that article but I'd prefer stronger sources. I changed the province-level, good suggestion. I think the link provides the required details. For the US list, I used state-level for location and footnotes for non-states, such as the unincorporated territories (Puerto Rico), but here the link makes perfect sense. As for the sites previously in danger, if I see correctly, China had none. Otherwise, I tend to include those details, as well as reasons why they were listed and removed from the endangered list. As for the national heritage, I don't know. Again, it seems going into details. There are two links in see also, maybe that part could be extended? --Tone 10:02, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I support Tone in ignoring the irrelevant details of disputed areas, changing provinces to province level subdivisions, etc. Much of the format could be understood if you looked at other FLs on World Heritage Sites. Easternsahara (talk) 00:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Tone: for the comprehensive reply and apologies for the late follow-up. About the suggestions:
  • I agree with keeping details to a minimum and in the case of this article, I also agree adding the List of potential World Heritage Sites in Taiwan link to the See also section would be a great idea.
  • For disputed areas, I think it should be fine if there is no mention in the article/lead. That said, for the map caption, given the map uses different shading/lines, it should be mentioned (maybe add to the caption something along the lines of Disputed territories of China are shaded tan while claimed borders are shown with dashed lines; there are no sites located in disputed areas.). I think adding something similar to the map captions on the India, Pakistan, Venezuela, Israel, Palestine, Cyprus, Sudan, Syria, Russia would also be helpful since the maps used in all those articles also all use unique shading/lines to indicate disputed territories/borders, which should be clarified in the map captions imo. Also, in the case of List of World Heritage Sites in Morocco, the caption should also mention that Western Sahara is not shown, with the dashed line representing the border claimed by Western Sahara.
  • I won't oppose here regarding this since it is mostly about the WHS Morocco list but I think it would be good to consider: in the case of this list, there thankfully is the Taiwan list which would be an ideal location for the information but in other cases, there doesn't seem to be any findable places for information about the WHS status of disputed regions. In Morocco's case, List of World Heritage Sites in Morocco, List of World Heritage Sites in Africa, List of World Heritage Sites in North Africa, and World Heritage Sites by country all make no explanation of the status of Western Sahara in regards to the WHS Convention and their sites. Overall, I couldn't find any article on the English Wikipedia that discusses the WHS status of Western Sahara though it's possible I could have missed it. Personally I think a lot of readers searching for information about the WH sites/status of disputed territories will naturally go to the article or articles of the territories' claimants so having some sort of information on those articles to explain the situation or direct them to some other article where it is explained would be ideal but in any case worth considering this more imo in future/past WHS lists.
  • Also, for province-level and administrative divisions in general, yup that works. I wasn't sure what would be best but you're right, the Wikilink to the province-level article fits perfectly. I think the way the US list was done also works great too though I agree the province-level link is good enough for this list

Dan the Animator 03:03, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • Of these 60 sites, 41 are listed for their cultural, 15 for their natural, and four sites for both cultural and natural significance - Make it 4 sites, so that it complies with MOS:NUMNOTES: "Comparable values near one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently".
  • One site is transnational, the Silk Roads: the Routes Network of Chang'an-Tianshan Corridor is shared with Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan - I feel something's missing there. Maybe One site is transnational, as the Silk Roads: the Routes Network of Chang'an-Tianshan Corridor is shared with Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan?
  • under the Emperor Qin Shi Huang who connected earlier existing sections -> under the Emperor Qin Shi Huang, who connected earlier existing sections
  • Three sections of the wall are listed, the terminuses at Jiayuguan City and Shanhai Pass, and the Badaling section (pictured) near Beijing -> Three sections of the wall are listed: the terminuses at Jiayuguan City and Shanhai Pass, and the Badaling section (pictured) near Beijing
  • In the 19th century, the caves were occupied by Buddhist monks while they drew the attention of archeologists and were protected after 1930 - When did they draw attention? I don't think that's clear.
  • a rich assemblies
  • in nine different architectural style
  • in history of Chinese civil engineering - A the is missing here.
  • in a particular local architecture, urban planning, and traditions - Given that it's not singular, you should lose the a.
  • with waters from the mountains being collected in the Black Dragon Pool and are then distributed through a series of canals and channels - Something is not working there.
  • Both are important due of their architecture and art collections
  • Out of more than 50 such gardens in the city, four were listed in 1997, and a further five were added in 2000 - Make it fifty.
  • damaged in during
  • largest largely
  • that has by now largely disappeared - The by now is not needed.
  • alpine karst and danxia landforms - The Oxford comma is missing there before the and.
  • the area a biodiversity hotspot
  • The Koguryo, or Goguryeo kingdom ruled - You have to either add or remove a comma here.
  • during the early and middle period - periods?
  • They originate in the time of the Ming dynasty when they served -> They originate in the time of the Ming dynasty, when they served
  • Additional four clusters - Four additional clusters?
  • is a type of a large earthen buildings -> is a type of large earthen buildings
  • of south-eastern China where - Add a comma.
  • The characteristic feature are - features?
  • (23,000 ft) (Jengish Chokusu - Those parentheses all together read a bit weird. Can the mention about the picture be made a bit later, in the following sentence?
  • They use ... that uses - That could read better. Maybe that relies on in the second half?
  • The Hani worship the nature and their land - Add a comma before and.
  • World Heritage site - This is the only instance I could find where site is not written with a capital S.
  • 33 sites on the roads are listed, 19 of which are in China - Something like Of 33 sites on the roads listed, 19 are in China to avoid beginning the sentence with a figure?
  • The canal was constructed in stages, with the first ones dating to the 5th century BCE and it got fully connected - The canal was constructed in stages, with the first ones dating to the 5th century BCE, and it got fully connected
  • materials, allowed distribution -> materials, and allowed distribution
  • A total of 31 sites along the canal are listed, the Gongchen Bridge in Hangzhou is pictured -> A total of 31 sites along the canal are listed. The Gongchen Bridge in Hangzhou is pictured
  • from 5th to 2nd century BCE -> from the 5th to the 2nd century BCE
  • of the bronze drum culture, a culture once widespread in the region - It's already been stated that it is a culture, so maybe of the bronze drum culture, once widespread in the region?
  • in the fusion traditional - of?
  • You have both Overseas Chinese and vverseas Chinese.
  • The serial site comprises 12 components with wetlands, mudflats, beaches, and marshes, that were - Lose the comma before that were.
  • Jingmai Mountain (景迈山) - That's the first time you have the name in Chinese.
  • The Western Xia or the Tangut civilization existed from 1038 to 1227 when -> The Western Xia or the Tangut civilization existed from 1038 to 1227, when

I hope those suggestions will be helpful. I will carry on with the tentative list as soon as I have time. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): MediaKyle (talk) 12:23, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is a comprehensive list of written and published works by and about Stephen Harper, the 22nd Prime Minister of Canada. Two books which only loosely fit the scope were intentionally excluded, as noted on the talk page. I believe this now just about meets the FL criteria. I used the featured list Bibliography of works on Madonna as inspiration. Thanks, MediaKyle (talk) 12:23, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TheDoctorWho

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  • This list needs a short description, it's unlikely that those outside of Canada know who Harper is
  • I think a link to the office (Prime Minister of Canada) in the lead would be useful
  • The lead is completely unsourced for facts that do not appear within the list itself, for example his birthday and the fact he was a prime minister, with this being BLP adjacent, these facts should be verifiable
  • The above also applies for the portion saying his first book "received mixed reviews"
  • Both tables are missing captions (MOS:TABLECAPTION)
  • The entry for The Harper Record is unsourced in the second table
  • The entry for How Ottawa Spends, 2013–2014: The Harper Government: Mid-Term Blues and Long-Term Plans is unsourced in the second table

I think that's all I have! TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your feedback, I believe I've addressed everything here. I just removed his date of birth, not really necessary here anyways and I'm actually not sure where the information came from upon further investigation, Stephen Harper is a GA but I see no source for the DOB at a glance. I also removed the "mixed reviews" part, whereas readers can simply navigate to that article to learn more about its reception. I don't feel as though it's particularly necessary to cite the fact that he was prime minister, though - I don't think this is something likely to be disputed, and it can be readily verified on many of the sources regarding the listed books. Cheers, MediaKyle (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support with the changes that have been made, nice work! TheDoctorWho (talk) 16:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Arconning

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Here'll be my comments. Arconning (talk) 14:45, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Sole image, File:Stephen Harper by Remy Steinegger Infobox.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0, source link needs fixing as it's under a different license now. Alt text is there.
  • "Stephen Harper is a Canadian politician who served as the 22nd prime minister of Canada from 2006 to 2015." - this is unsourced.
  • "which concerns the history of professional ice hockey in Canada." - this is unsourced as well.
  • "The book was a political work, drawing on his experience as prime minister. " - unsourced as well.
  • "This bibliography compiles written and published works exploring Harper's political career and policies, limited to non-fiction books specifically discussing Harper and his time as prime minister from notable authors and publishers.", I believe this is general but it would be better if there would be a source.
  • "The book discusses the history of the various flags used by Canada throughout the country's history." - unsourced.
Thank you for your comments. I have to say I'm a bit confused, because as far as I'm aware the lead as it is now doesn't require citations. Stephen Harper being the prime minister is the reason the list exists to begin with, and is unlikely to be disputed - I specifically wrote each description of the book in the lead to be the most basic summary possible, as each title has it's own article, and the associated citations for the information are also available in the table on this list. To that end, I would argue none of this is unsourced, and adding citations is a layer of redundancy. As for the "This bibliography..." part, that's me defining the scope of the bibliography per MOS:LISTOFWORKS, I don't see how I would cite that. Can you please clarify? Thanks, MediaKyle (talk) 17:30, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Vanderwaalforces (talk) 02:44, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is the list of governors of Nigeria's state of Enugu from when the region was called Eastern then split into East Central and two other states, then East Central was split into Anambra and Imo states, and Enugu carved out of Anambra. I have significantly worked on this and it now meets the criteria for FL. Feedback would be very much appreciated. Thank you already. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 02:44, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces, there are only allowed to be two open nominations per nominator at FLC, this is your third. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by Reywas92

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  • My comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of governors of Anambra State/archive1 apply here as well: Please trim the lead substantially so that it's a concise overview of the governors that summarizes the body, not a full explanation of every governor and how they transitioned that duplicates or has even more information than the body.
  • This also lacks any explanation of what the governor's responsibilities actually are. Since Nigeria is a federal republic I presume the governor has a certain amount of executive power so please add some about what they do.

Reywas92Talk 15:00, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Reywas92 Thank you so much! Kindly check now, I have fixed both the lead and added the explanation about the responsibilities of the leaders; military governor, executive governor, deputy, etc. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:56, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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  • I have noticed this with a few of your other nominations but decided to finally bring it up. This is supposed to be a list, however, the list takes up a very small portion of the article. Most of the article is explaining the history of the state. The other half is giving details about each person. I think this is an issue as the page reads more like an article than a list.
    • I don't think so. Especially since I know very well that if these details were not present, there would be a lot of context missing. It's all about context, if these were not present, there are reviewers who would ask me to provide context, these could be anyone including you. I think the whole thing helps someone who isn't familiar with Nigeria to better understand how this came about and why, whether you're familiar or not, context still helps. I am not just giving the history of the state, I have giving it as it relates to the governance of the state. Also, there are several lists like this, the List of governors of Florida for example also explained several things before going into the list.
  • Following up on my last point, maybe the article should be moved to Governor of Enugu State like other pages that aren't really lists.
    • I do not really think so, especially because this is just a list, and most of the information you would find in a "Governor of X State" is currently not present in this list. If happens to be IMO a separate topic on its own.
  • There needs to be inline citations for instances when there were no deputies. It doesn't currently have them.
    • Only Onoh does not have and I am as well surprised. It took me about two days trying to find who his deputy was, I couldn't. No source mentions it, I have search through archive.org, ProQuest, of course with the help of TWL, still nothing came up. There was no mention of his deputy, so I don't really know a source to cite as to why there was no deputy for him.
  • What is the difference between "Military Governor" and "Military Administrator"?
    • A military governor was the head of a state during Nigeria's military era, appointed by the head of the federal military government to administer states... and Administrators were usually appointed to rule a state when there is a political crisis or state of emergency.
  • "Peter Mbah on suit" is not grammatically correct.
    • fixed, thanks!
  • Why do some areas where images are missing have dashes whilst others are blank.
  • If Anambra State gets a list in a table, why doesn't East Central or Eastern get one, they are both past versions of Enugu?
    • The East Central had just two leaders throughout its existence, also this is the pattern I have been using for the previous FLs.
  • The infobox says the first one was Nwodo but the list says Eze. Please fix this inconsistency.
    • The inaugural is the first democratically elected, and that is Nwodo, not Eze.
  • Government House isn't listed in the article body at all so it should be removed from the infobox.
    • done, thanks!
  • Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 23:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @History6042 Thank you so much, I replied. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Good job and thank you for explaining, I support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:59, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support on Sources from Ibjaja055

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  • Spot checks pass
  • Article is sourced reliably
  • Proper and consistent wiki links to publications wiki pages
  • Authors were added relevantly to citation template
  • Dates too were added appropriately and consistently formatted (using DDMMYY format)
  • Archives are not required and not a problem.
  • You can link SUNY Press to SUNY Press.
  • You can link Cambridge University Press to Cambridge University Press.
  • You can link University of California Press to University of California Press.
  • Add | issn=0189-8892 |oclc=12681315 to Newswatch, Volume 17, Issues 1-13 and format publisher to | publisher=[[Newswatch (Nigeria)|Newswatch]].
  • You can add |author-link1=Toyin Falola to Falola & Genova 2009.

Nice work. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:13, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for looking into this, I have copyedited based on your feedback. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image Review by Easternsahara

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  • File:Enugu state Coat of Arms.jpg – CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Enugu State Flag.svg – CC0
  • File:Ndubuisi Mbah.jpg – CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Nigeria – Enugu.svg – CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Portrait of Col. Datti Sadiq Abubakar.png – Fair Use
  • File:Photo of Christian C Onoh, former Anambra Governor.jpg – Fair use
  • File:Portrait photo of Samson Emeka Omeruah.jpg – Fair use
  • File:Okwesilieze-Nwodo.jpg – CC BY-SA 3.0
  • File:Senator Chimaroke Nnamani 1.jpg – CC BY-SA 4.0
  • Alt text is good
  • @Vanderwaalforces: I am not sure if fair use applies here because it is not being used in a biography. Have other similar articles set a precedent for this? Has this issue been raised previously, could you please link it? I am pretty sure it is okay but want to double-check.

Please ping me when you respond Easternsahara (talk) 01:07, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): Min968 (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The chronological list presents one of the worst military defeats in Ming history. I would highly appreciate any suggestions to improve it. Thank you for your time. Min968 (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Drive by comments from History6042

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  • The prose seems like it is overly trying to convince the reader that the topic is very important. It uses words such as "highly mobile and battle-hardened", "orderly withdrawal", "catastrophic defeat", "bold proclamation", and "not only". Please fix these per WP:EDITORIAL.
    • Done.
  • Does "The T'u-Mu Incident of 1449" have an ISBN or similar identifier that could be added?

Image review

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Here'll be my comments. Arconning (talk) 14:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • File:英宗睿皇帝.jpg - Public Domain
  • File:Tumu Crisis.jpg - I'm a bit doubtful of its license, the source doesn't seem to be under it. Should be fixed.
  • File:Tumubao.jpg - CC BY 4.0, "The shared materials on this site are for learning reference only and may not be used for any commercial purpose.", this isn't licensed properly and is a copyright violation. This should be removed.
    Pass Arconning (talk) 09:41, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt-text is present for accessibility.
  • Captions are proper and relevant to the article.
Nominator(s): dxneo (talk) 04:29, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Coming from a failed nomination, the list is now polished. I believe that it is now ready. dxneo (talk) 04:29, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: Per WP:CROSSCAT, Wikipedia is not for Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations, such as "people from ethnic / cultural / religious group X employed by organization Y" or "restaurants specializing in food type X in city Y". Cross-categories such as these are not considered a sufficient basis for creating an article, unless the intersection of those categories is in some way a culturally significant phenomenon. The sources prove that these individuals received nominations/awards, but I don't really see sources in the list that discuss this group as a whole to demonstrate this is a "culturally significant phenomenon". Can you explain this? RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:31, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    i have read this for like 8 times now, but i still don't get it. Would you please point out the errors so that i can fix them. dxneo (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What it means is basically that RunningTiger123 think that this list should not exist. The excerpt from WP:CROSSCAT means that just because all the winners on the list are South African, that doesn't mean that there is a set group talked about in RS called "South African Grammy Award winners and nominees". Members of this list just happen to be both, I don't think the Grammys actual care or keep track of the nationalities of their nominees. This is not a fixable issue unless you can find RSs talking about this group as a whole. History6042😊 (Contact me) 18:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed, this is what I meant. Sources must show that "South African Grammy winners and nominees" is a notable topic or grouping to justify a list. (As an analogy: There have been Grammy winners with blond hair, but that is not enough to create List of blond Grammy Award winners and nominees, as there aren't sources about that group.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:46, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To compare this to "winners with blond hair" sounds very unfair. This is a list just like List of Billboard Hot 100 number ones of 2025 or any other musician's awards and nominations list, it's a compilation. Lists are rarely discussed in RS as a whole. Every country/region with multiple Grammy awards and nominations have a standalone list/article including the US, see Category:Lists of Grammy Award winners and nominees by nationality. As for RS about South African Grammy awards winners, there are plenty (Bona, Good Things Guy, The South African and more) but it's really not that necessary to cite all those sources. If this list "shouldn't exist", by all means, let's take it to AfD so that we can stop further production of such list. In conclusion, this is a very good list highlighting only South African winners and nominees. dxneo (talk) 07:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I spent half an hour trying to figure out how to better word things, but I couldn't find any clearer way to make my point – this is pretty clearly the type of list CROSSCAT is talking about and not like the other examples you offered. I agree my analogy was extreme, but I was trying to show why CROSSCAT exists to prevent us from synthesizing arbitrary list topics. That being said, since you found several sources that seem to show coverage of this grouping, you should incorporate those into the list's lead and let reviewers assess whether those prove the topic's notability. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe this helps: When a musician wins an award, sources covering that will list both the award and the musician; we don't have to synthesize a connection between the two. Similarly, when a single hits number one on the charts, the chart's date is given; we don't have to synthesize a connection between the year and the song. However, when an artist wins a Grammy, their nationality is (broadly speaking) not mentioned in sources – for instance, you won't see the Grammy nominations list mention nationality anywhere. So if you start connecting the winners to their nationality, you need sources to prove that the connection is meaningful. Does that help? RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, thank you so much. I think I have adequately added the sources and everything should be fine now. dxneo (talk) 18:15, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources now in the article appear to show some level of coverage of the group. Personally, this still feels like synthesis to me, but I'm willing to move past this, as I think consensus would disagree with me. Other issues that need to be addressed in the list:
  • "won the Best Folk Recording" – remove "the"
  • "won her first gramophone" – just say "Grammy", an actual gramophone is something else
  • "the inaugural Best African Music Performance" → "the inaugural Best African Music Performance award"
  • Set sort values for works to omit "A" / "An" / "The" at the start (this would include "Les" in Les Miserables, in my opinion)
Meaning I should do it like {{sort|Miserables|Les Miserables}}? dxneo (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref. column should not be sortable
Can you please explain this a little, i'm lost. dxneo (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Set class="unsortable" in the column header – see Help:Sortable tables#Making selected columns unsortable. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Use en dash instead of hyphen for Best Performance – Folk, Best Engineered Recording – Non-Classical (occurs twice)
  • Convert all categories to sentence case ("of", "the", "from", "by", "with" etc. should not be capitalized unless they are the first word, which isn't the case here)
A few words still need to be addressed. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:41, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All done. Would you please double check if I missed anything. dxneo (talk) 14:24, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please fix "Best Score from the Original Cast Show Album" (occurs twice) and update the sorting (all columns except Ref. should be sortable; I provided an example). RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:24, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your hardwork, caps were very difficult to catch. You the best! I believe everything is fine now. dxneo (talk) 19:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1985: "Grammy Award for Best Vocal Arrangement for Two or More Voices" – remove "Grammy Award for"
  • 2011 and 2012: all categories in these years should start with "Best" for consistency
RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Tiger, all done, except where stated. dxneo (talk) 20:07, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support – personally I'm still a bit skeptical about CROSSCAT, as the sources for this grouping are still a bit thin, but I don't want to block this nomination over that. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:03, 18 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Here'll be some of my comments. Arconning (talk) 14:40, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • File:Vocal music, Paris - UNESCO House - UNESCO - PHOTO0000004878 0001.tiff - CC BY-SA 3.0 igo, source link needs to be fixed for WP:V
  • File:Tyla in 2025.jpg - CC BY 3.0
  • "South Africa produced thirteen Grammy Award winners.", "South Africa has produced thirteen Grammy Award winners."
  • "South Africa has won a total of 33 Grammy Awards from 112 nominations.", shouldn't this be "Artists from South Africa have won a total of 33 Grammy Awards from 112 nominations." + "as of..."
  • I can see that most of the sources aren't archived? This should be fixed if they become deadlinks.
  • "and Soweto Gospel Choir with three.", "and the Soweto Gospel Choir with three."
  • "Nominated artists include Hugh Masekela and Trevor Noah among others.", "Nominated artists include Hugh Masekela and Trevor Noah, among others."
 Done dxneo (talk) 16:48, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and as for archives, the Grammys website is not under any threat of linkrot. I made sure that I archive each and every article tho. dxneo (talk) 16:50, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator: Sophisticatedevening

I have decided to try my hand with the creepy crawlies recently, this is all extant orders in the class insecta. It is surprisingly diverse, and with this one class it represents around a half of all species (I was surprised to learn here that beetles account for a fourth of all species as well). Around half of these are able to be supported by lovely featured pictures, and some neat microscopic ones too.🐞 Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 02:57, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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I really enjoyed reading this article. I think it is well organized and well laid out. I will return later today to leave more detailed feedback. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:03, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Primary image collage is good, with alt-text.
  • I'm not sure you need a colon after "The most diverse orders are"
  • I would spell out "two" in the last sentence of the lead. You also do not need to include the same source link twice; once at the end of the second sentence is sufficient.
  • With regards to the tables, I would recommend wikilinking the common insect names in the second columns, as those are likely topics a reader might be interested in.
  • What is the information underneath the Order? For example, Börner 1904. If this is additional information, it needs some kind of explanation.
  • "Bodies are cylindrical, and do not have any scales. They are distributed globally, and prefer woodland areas. Their tails consist of three long structures, and can use them to jump up to 12 inches." No comma needed in any of these sentences.
  • "Approximately" followed by a precise number seems kind of awkward.
  • "The thoraxes are wide, and the surface is covered in small, dry scales." No comma needed after "wide".
  • "Palaeoptera is an infraclass..." What is an infraclass?
  • "Wings of Palaeoptera cannot be folded back when they are not being used, and species undergo particularly significant changes during metamorphosis." No comma needed.
  • "Females lay their eggs in water, and do not feed during the adult stage." No comma needed.
  • "They are most common in tropical climates, and can live as pests in human structures." No comma needed.
  • What are cerci?
  • "It is the smallest insect order, and was first described in 2002." No comma needed.
  • "Orthoptera is an order of insects that consists of crickets, grasshoppers and locusts." I believe a comma is needed here after "grasshoppers".
  • You should probably spell out "one" and "three".
  • You should probably spell out "four".
  • What is an "incomplete metamorphosis"?
  • "It consists primarily of lice, and species are dorsoventrally flattened across their bodies" No comma needed. Also, is it "dorsoventrally" or "dorso-ventrally"?
  • Unless "Thrips" is a proper noun, it shouldn't be capitalized in the middle of the sentence.
  • You should probably spell out "two".
  • "They are usually no more than 2 millimeters in length, and are attracted to bright colors." No comma needed.
  • "Coleoptera (commonly known as "beetles") is the largest order of insects, and contains a fourth of all extant animals." No comma needed.
  • "(a head, thorax and abdomen)" Comma needed after thorax.
  • "bees, wasps and ants" Comma after wasps.
  • You can wikilink "pollination".
  • You should spell out "four".
  • What are endoparasites?
  • "Males have a single pair of wings, and females have none." Perhaps replace "and" with "while"?
  • "...and only possess antennae, mouthparts and simple eyes" Comma after mouthparts.

Let me know once you have updated your article or if you have any questions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:59, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98 All changes have been implemented/clarified, the information under the order name is the describing authority (last name/year of whoever discovered it) that is usually included whenever species are first mentioned. I have decided against doing anything with it since usually not a ton of information is there that I personally think is necessary to mention as most of them were described as a collection in a section of a book (I think like 5 or something were described in a part of 10th edition of Systema Naturae). For dorso-ventrally I switched to hyphen for consistency although I see both used sometimes. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 00:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There needs to be some sort of note somewhere explaining what that information is, because as it is, it's just a random name and number. Also, some of them are separated with a comma and some are not. Personally, I would recommend a comma or the use of parentheses. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bgsu98 Thanks for the feedback, I have added a footnote to the first column header explaining what that is. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 00:35, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just a minor quibble... The formatting is different on some of those notations. Some are separated with a comma and some are not. You pick which you prefer, but they should be uniform. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I just fixed that here. Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 00:42, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, it's good, I'm happy to support.
The comma is the standard way to format an author citation, as parentheses have a specific meaning there. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:09, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Drive-by quibble: we have countless FAs and GAs with this very standard way of listing the taxon authority without explanatory notes. I do not believe the note is necessary. Cremastra (talk) 16:06, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a casual observer who does not know much about the study of animals, I did not know what those notations meant. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Royal Entomological Society overviews might be of lower quality than expected: https://www.royensoc.co.uk/understanding-insects/classification-of-insects/strepsiptera/ contains some inaccuracies, for example stating that all strepsipteran females lacked legs (the vast majority have reduced legs, but they are still used to attach to the host, while basal species have full legs) and were endoparasites for their entire lives (again, not true for basal species). It could be good to replace these overviews by more accurate scholarly sources. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:13, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaotic Enby Thanks for catching that, I rewrote the rest of Strepsiptera and replaced the Paraneoptera one, I did keep the one journal article since it looks like the RES was just hosting the paper there and still looks to be a RS. Sophisticatedevening(talk) 18:37, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Sophisticatedevening Thanks, although I noticed that you removed my rewriting of parts of Strepsiptera (from a scholarly source) and the entry now makes no mention of the very striking dimorphism, was this deliberate? Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 19:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Chaotic Enby: Whoops sorry that was not intentional, I've added it back in. Sophisticatedevening(talk) 19:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Tone 14:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bolivia has 7 WHS and 5 tentative sites. Standard style. The list for Côte d'Ivoire is already seeing some support so I am adding a new nomination. Speaking of, I have two really long ones ready, China and Mexico, let me know if you want to check one of these next of should I place some shorter ones first (for example Jordan). Tone 14:04, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • Located at the altitude of 4,000 m - an altitude maybe?
  • the small pre-Hispanic hamlet of Potosí developed into a major industrial complex by the Spanish colonists after 1572 - Having the by the Spanish colonists, I guess it would need to be was developed.
  • Could the fight for independence be linked to Bolivian War of Independence?
  • The carvings were interpreted to have ceremonial and ritual significance. They depict animals and geometric shapes - These two sentences could be merged: The carvings, which depict animals and geometric shapes, were interpreted to have ceremonial and ritual significance
  • the area was occupied by the Inca who made it -> the area was occupied by the Inca, who made it
  • from tropical rainforests, gallery forests, savannahs, swamps, semi-deciduous dry forests, and the cerrado habitats on the Huanchaca plateau that have been isolated for millions of years - Something's askew there.
  • The region is inhabited mainly by the Aymara people who preserve - Add a comma there.
  • and introduction of steam engines to the mining process -> and the introduction of steam engines to the mining process

That's what I saw. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 14:22, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all, thank you! Tone 06:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support. Alavense (talk) 09:27, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easternsahara

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  • File:Potosí con la Catedral basílica al fondo.jpg|alt=Look at the city from above, with the prominent church towers|150px Change alt text "Look at the" → "View of the"
  • File:20170805 Bolivia 1214 Sucre sRGB (26204168039).jpg|alt=Look at the city from above with many tiled roofs and a church tower|150px

Change alt text "Look at the" →"View of the"

  • File:Huanchaca 1880.png|150px|center|alt= A historic b/w photo depicting miners in front of a mine entrance

Change alt text "b/w" → "black and white"

  • Image review pass
  • Stable article because last major edits were in October 2023

Comments

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Nominator(s): PresN 00:43, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey everyone, mammal list #57 in our perpetual series and rodent list #2: Sciuridae! Since we started the order off with a small list, lets follow it up with a big one: prairie dogs, marmots, chipmunks, and lots and lots of squirrels—if you're in Europe or North America you're probably thinking of squirrels as something that has a handful of varieties, but there's actually dozens and dozens of species in a variety of colors commingling in parts of southeast Asia and Africa. So here they all are: 284 species, which is the longest "species" list in our series to date with almost 5% of all mammal species in it, with only two lists (Old World/New World rats and mice) are expected to be longer. So enjoy all of our bushy-tailed friends; as always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 00:43, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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  • "A few extinct prehistoric sciurid species have been discovered, though due to ongoing research and discoveries the exact number and categorization is not fixed." Same as before; you need a comma after "discoveries".

A lot more photos than the rodent list!

  • You might consider wikilinking Borneo. Also "Island of Borneo" seems redundant.
  • You have Indonesia wikilinked on the Aeromys table, even though it has appeared several times prior.
  • The same with Philippines on the Hylopetes table.

User:PresN: Let me know when you've fixed that pesky comma. 😉 Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:34, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: All done! --PresN 02:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would replace "Island of Borneo" with just "Borneo" on all appearances, but that is probably just a personal preference. I enjoyed reading about squirrels more than rodents. 😉 Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:14, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History6042

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Image review:

  • File:Sciuridae.jpg - CC BY 3.0
  • File:Callosciurus quinquestriatus 84711596.jpg - CC BY 4.0
  • File:Range Callosciurus quinquestriatus.png - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Black-striped squirrel.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • File:Range Callosciurus nigrovittatus.png - CC BY-SA 4.0
  • Images 6 to 20 - Various acceptable copyrights
  • File:Squirrel--Bukit-Timah.jpg - GFDL 1.2 - Used appropriately
  • Images 22 to 261 - Various acceptable copyrights
  • File:Marmota flaviventris (Yellow Bellied Marmot), Yosemite NP - Diliff.jpg - Appropriately credited to David Iliff
  • Images 263 to 287 - Various acceptable copyrights
  • File:Sonoma chipmunk at Samuel P. Taylor State Park.jpg - Appropriately credited to Frank Schulenburg
  • Images 289 to 296 - Various acceptable copyrights
  • File:CA Ground Squirrel on rock.jpg - Appropriately credited to Frank Schulenburg
  • Images 298 to 353 - Various acceptable copyrights
  • Alt texts were on all images I checked.
  • Captions are used were needed.
  • The thing about the order Rodentia and Sciuromorpha suborder needs an inline citation.
  • Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 00:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@History6042: Done, thanks! --PresN 14:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image review pass. History6042😊 (Contact me) 14:15, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review by Bgsu98

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Spot check:

  • No. 8 – Checks out.
  • No. 13 – Checks out.
  • No. 37 – The source calls this squirrel a Dusky-striped Squirrel, which Nilgiri striped squirrel states is a previous name for this species.
  • No. 45 – Checks out.
  • No. 60 – Checks out.
  • No. 88 – Checks out.
  • No. 101 – Source does not call this squirrel a Northern flying squirrel, but the scientific name Glaucomys sabrinus does match.
  • No. 134 – Checks out.
  • No. 150 – Source does not call this squirrel a Andean squirrel, but the scientific name Sciurus pucheranii does match.
  • No. 162 – Checks out.
  • No. 177 – Checks out.
  • No. 192 – Checks out.
  • No. 200 – Checks out.
  • No. 208 – Source does not call this squirrel a Carruther's mountain squirrel, but the scientific name Funisciurus carruthersi does match.
  • No. 219 – Checks out.
  • No. 241 – Source does not call this squirrel a Yellow-bellied marmot, but the scientific name Marmota flaviventris does match.
  • No. 285 – Checks out.
  • No. 311 – Checks out.

Source review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:32, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Reconrabbit

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  • B. pearsonii has its range described as "Eastern and Southeastern Asia" when this general area is elsewhere described as "Southeastern and eastern Asia". H. alboniger also has the same construction but with lowercase "southeastern".
  • Sri Lanka is linked twice, once on F. obscurus and again on R. macroura.
  • S. deppei is located in Centrla America
  • Prosciurillus topapuensis is referred to as Mount Topapu Squirrel by the IUCN and MDD. Prosciurillus alstoni is referred to as Alston's squirrel by same.

That's all I could find.

@Reconrabbit: All done, thanks! --PresN 22:49, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support here! -- Reconrabbit 12:16, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since one of my articles has just been promoted to FL, here is another figure skating article for your consideration. This is a little-known competition that used to serve as a complement to the European Figure Skating Championships, but was really just a crosstown rivalry between the United States and Canada. Who emerged more victorious? The United States won more medals, but Canada won more gold medals, so... Anyway, I have personally verified all of the results and examined the sources, the tables are properly formatted, the history is thorough, I believe the sources are all properly formatted, and I have used a variety of photographs to showcase this competition. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments, and thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review and other comments

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  • File:Montgomery Wilson.jpg - Public Domain
  • File:Tenley Albright at the 1956 Winter Olympics (cropped).jpg - Public Domain
  • File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-G0313-0018-001, Cynthia Kauffmann, Ronald Kauffman.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0 de
  • File:Montgomery Wilson.jpg - Public Domain
  • File:ConstanceWilson.jpg - Public Domain
  • All images add value to the article
  • Alt text exists
  • Image review pass
  • Use comma before or don't, you have some instances which do and some which don't
  • "biennial figure skating competition and although they were " add comma after and

Comment by Alavense

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  • Why do you have semicolons instead of commas for the Records section?
  • What's the point in having a Works cited section if you already display the books in full in the References section. I think it would be better to have Works cited as-is, but then use {{sfn}} for references, with the very pages you are using to verify each statement.

That's all I could see. Excellent work. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 05:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Alavense: All fixed. I have never used that citation style before, so please let me know if there are any issues with it. Bgsu98 (Talk) 07:03, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Happy to support. Alavense (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Alavense: I have also implemented this change at Canadian National Skating Championships, where I have a tangible book used as a source way more often than here. It is also up for FL review if you'd like to check it out here. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:09, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TheDoctorWho

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  • "The championships were held every other year" - It's already mentioned two sentences earlier that the championships were biennial, one of the two mentions can probably be removed.
  • Let's be honest, most people won't know what "biennial" means. I had to go search for the word when I started editing this article, because I knew "biannual" wasn't right.
  • "only skaters from Canada and the United States were eligible to compete." --> "only skaters from those countries were eligible to compete." - again, just trying to avoid repetition.
  • Fixed.
  • Added Skate Canada, as it is the only one directly connected to the NAC.
  • The entire history section reads very WP:PROSELINE-y. Each paragraph has a month and/or year, at most 7 words into the first sentence (with most being the second or third in). It could definitely do with some rewording or copyediting to reduce the amount.
  • I have already edited that whole section several times, and just went through it again and made some more edits. I agree that there are a lot of years, which is to be expected in a History narrative, but I think I varied the prose enough to avoid WP:PROSELINE. You can take another look at it and let me know what you think. The second, fourth, and fifth paragraphs only have a date cited one time each.
  • I think a link to soft launch may be useful in the history section (piped to the "soft relaunch" portion).
  • Fixed.
  • Merely a suggestion, but with only two entries, I'm not sure there's much benefit to having the cumulative medal count table sortable.
  • That is a template, so I don't have that option.
  • The "See also" section should be above the references, per MOS:ORDER.
  • Fixed.

I think that's all I have! TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments

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  • "The North American Figure Skating Championships were a biennial figure skating competition, and although they were sanctioned by the International Skating Union (ISU), they were actually a joint venture of the Canadian Figure Skating Association and the United States Figure Skating Association" => "The North American Figure Skating Championships were a biennial figure skating competition which took place between [year] and [year]. Although sanctioned by the International Skating Union (ISU), they were actually a joint venture of the Canadian Figure Skating Association and the United States Figure Skating Association"
  • "after which point, Canada discontinued" => "after which Canada discontinued"
  • "The U.S. delegation was unaware at the time that the Canadian Figure Skating Association was [singular] already planning to launch their [plural]"
  • "By the mid-1970s, skaters from Asia were successfully competing at major international events. The last North American Championships had been held in 1971, so skaters from Europe had the advantage of an ISU championship event that was not accessible to skaters outside of Europe." => "By the mid-1970s, skaters from Asia were successfully competing at major international events and skaters from Europe had the advantage of an ISU championship event that was not accessible to skaters outside of Europe."
  • On that note, were Skate America and Skate Canada not ISU championship events? No.
  • That's it, I think -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:14, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:ChrisTheDude: Thank you for your feedback. I have implemented all of your suggestions. Let me know if you need anything else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:46, 28 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator(s): Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 02:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Judy Blume is known for books such as Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing, Summer Sisters, and Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret. After my previous FLC at Barbara Park bibliography, I decided to work on another bibliography for a similar author. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 02:45, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • "predominantly-white neighborhood" - I don't think that hyphen is needed there
  • "Blume wrote the book when divorce was becoming more common and accepted by American society, and reflected her own marital trouble at the time" => "Blume wrote the book when divorce was becoming more common and accepted by American society, and it reflected her own marital trouble at the time"
  • "Michael and Katherine are a couple who decide have sexual intercourse" => "Michael and Katherine are a couple who decide to have sexual intercourse"
  • "Blume wrote the book on the advise of her teenager daughter" => "Blume wrote the book on the advice of her teenaged daughter"
  • "the aftermath of three different airplanes crash" - that doesn't sound right.....
  • There's quite a few descriptions which consist only of a sentence fragment eg "A television series adaptation of the Fudge books." These shouldn't have full stops.
  • That's all I got - great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ChrisTheDude Thank you! All changes made. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 20:24, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Alavense

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  • Deenie is a teenage girl who wants to become a model until she is diagnosed with the spine disorder scoliosis and must wear a brace, only for Deenie's mother to make her feel that she no longer met her expectations - Why is the tense switched there?
  • A television series adaptation of the Fudge books. - You can lose that full stop as well.

That's what I saw. Kind regards, Alavense (talk) 05:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alavense, is there a specific wording you have in mind? The sentence is written in present tense. I've removed the full stop. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:15, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I got it all wrong here, but wouldn't it make more sense to have Deenie is a teenage girl who wants to become a model until she is diagnosed with the spine disorder scoliosis and must wear a brace, only for Deenie's mother to make her feel that she no longer meets her expectations? Alavense (talk) 16:05, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. Fixed. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 16:35, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work. Support. Alavense (talk) 18:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Z1720

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I'm sorry to do this, but the lead feels like it is just rehashing the list below, instead of giving additional details about the author, like I see in other bibliographies that are featured lists. In articles like Ursula K. Le Guin bibliography or Roald Dahl bibliography I see the lead summarising important aspects of the author's biography and major topics commonly explored in their works. Also, why are there no images in the list? Judy Blume has an image that can be used in the article. At this time, I do not think I can support promotion, although feel free to ping me if there are major changes to the lead. Z1720 (talk) 21:04, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Leads summarize articles, and information about the author belongs in the article about the author. I looked for images, and it doesn't make sense to me to use the same lead image for both articles. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:11, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Bgsu98

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Seeing this article, I am reminded of the article William Faulkner bibliography, which very recently underwent the FL process. I'm wondering if converting all of the bibliography to tables, similar to what the Faulkner article uses, would make it easier to digest. You could also examine the Faulkner lead to maybe help generate ideas for improving the lead here. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What would be the benefit of a table over a list? Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 00:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe they are easier to navigate. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:02, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see that your article Barbara Park bibliography has also undergone the Featured List process, and it is very similar to this article, so you should feel free to ignore my suggestion above. However, some more information about the author in the lead wouldn't be a bad thing. I realize this isn't a biography, but a bibliography without background feels insufficient to me. Which I'm not saying this article is insufficient; I will examine it more closely tomorrow afternoon and return with additional thoughts. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:51, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comments (July 3, 2025)
  • I would suggest adding a photo of Judy Blume to the lead.
  • I would also suggest adding maybe just a little more to the lead about the author. You could probably import the text directly from the first paragraph of the Judy Blume article.
  • While I might prefer to see the article structured more like, say, the William Faulkner bibliography, I can see that your own article Barbara Park bibliography was promoted to FL in its current state, so there is nothing wrong with following the same format you used here.
  • Your descriptions of the books are good. I would suggest including information about the books which have drawn controversy (Margaret, Blubber, etc.). Many of these books have wikilinks which provide further information. For example, Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.#Censorship in the United States has text and sources you could incorporate here.
  • I would include information and wikilinks about the three plane crashes that are part of In the Unlikely Event (novel).

User:Thebiguglyalien: Please let me know if you have any questions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added the image, although it duplicates the one in the main article. I'm not convinced that any of your other points are required to meet the criteria for FL. I especially don't want to use the poorly-written prose in the main Judy Blume article; that should be rewritten, definitely not duplicated. I personally believe that William Faulkner bibliography is a little messy, and a format like that would be out of necessity because of the volume and variety of his work, not the ideal. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 02:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, best of luck with your article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 02:52, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I have to Oppose this nomination. Three different reviewers have made reasonable suggestions for improvement, which is the nominator's prerogative, but seems antithetical to a collaborative project like Wikipedia. That being said, I also wouldn't have supported Barbara Park bibliography in its current state had a I reviewed it. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:40, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Sophisticatedevening

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  • File:JudyBlume2009(cropped).jpg - Needs alt text
  • From Special:permalink/1299207066 can you add archives to refs 38, 39, 40, 31 and 3?
  • You can wikilink "Simon & Schuster" in the references section.
  • Speaking of references, is there a reason all of you inline references are placed in a "notes" section, and stuff for your sfns are in the references section? I personally would move your refs to the references section, and make a new section called "sources" or "bibliography" or something and then move your other sources there. Only asking since it's mixing long and sfns as well.
  • Several of Blume's works have been adapted to film and television. - You could clarify which works have been in the lede.

Overall nice work! Sophisticatedevening🐞(talk) 02:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added the alt text and the reference links. There's really no ideal way to use both web sources and Sfn, since Template:Sfn and <ref> both sort into the same list. The cleanest alternative would be to use Sfn for the webpages as well, but that comes with its own drawbacks. For the lead, I'm not sure what the best way would be to mention the adaptations. I'd say that it would either involve mentioning each one individually, or adding another paragraph that listed them, but both of those seem messy to me. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 22:29, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for removal

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Notified: NuclearWarfare, WikiProject Animation, WikiProject Television

The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Please refrain from leaving comments on this page. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notified: NuclearWarfare, WikiProject Animation, WikiProject Television

The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Please refrain from leaving comments on this page. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:35, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notified: NuclearWarfare, Parent5446, WikiProject Animation, WikiProject Television

In the recent discussions at Wikipedia talk:Featured lists/Archive_2#FLs for television seasons and Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates#What to do with season lists, there seems to be some agreements that TV seasons should go through GAN/FAC instead of FLC. Following the latter discussion's suggestion, I'm going to do a bulk nomination to remove certain season articles from FL status. This nomination covers Avatar: The Last Airbender seasons 1, 2 (FLRC link) and 3 (FLRC link). The FLRC nomination for all three lists will be contained here. Besides the shift away from FLC, there also seems to be some general concerns on the sourcing. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:20, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notified: DragonZero, WikiProject Anime and manga, WikiProject Television

The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Please do not leave comments on this page. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:54, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator note: all FLRC discussion for Code Geass seasons 1 and 2 should take place at the season 1 FLRC nomination. --PresN 18:07, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Notified: DragonZero, WikiProject Anime and manga, WikiProject Television

Hello, I'm nominating this article per recent consensus on WT:MOSTV that articles of this nature should pursue a GAN or FAC. As a side note, the second season is also an FL and I plan to nominate it for similar purposes later on. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:27, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As per Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates#What to do with season lists, y'all can nominate entire seasons at once now, so please go ahead and nominate season 2 and just put a note that we're discussing them both here. --PresN 14:37, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Don't worry, I just did. As this also covers the second season (FLRC link), the FLRC nominations for both will now be contained here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per recent consensus that articles of this nature should pursue GA/FA instead. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:57, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, can all of these be delisted already? Easternsahara (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
support Also has some major citing issues, which are more important than what type of star it has. Mattximus (talk) 13:17, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support delisting per the recent project consensus. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 09:45, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Notified: Raime, Hydrogen Iodide, SportsNerd3000, Chiefmiz, Alaskan assassin, WikiProject Tampa Bay, WikiProject Florida, WikiProject Skyscrapers

This list contains many unsourced entries and it is likely out of date and not comprehensive. Cyrobyte (talk) 23:40, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is often utilized by skyscrapercity.com’s Tampa Forum. The article is quite useful and informative. Chiefmiz (talk) 23:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The FLRC template is missing from the List’s talk page. ZsinjTalk 01:47, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Remove I would support a removal from featured list status for now. The lead and history sections can definitely be more detailed, while there are quite a few buildings on the main list that lack citations. There are too many red links as well. Citations are largely missing from the under construction and proposed section. LivinAWestLife (talk) 08:32, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Image sizes in the tables are also oddly inconsistent. LivinAWestLife (talk) 08:35, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delist. In addition to the reasons quoted above, there is also very old tautological writing "This list ranks...". Notes should be in "notes" section, not written in the paragraph at the start of the table section. The article is many years out of date, and lacks proper sourcing. The writing also needs a copyedit. Mattximus (talk) 13:05, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]