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blamed on Jews?

this article has 2 bogus cited sources (5 and 6) attached to this claim and neither of these sources state that. this is blatant anti-semitism. 2601:985:801:3B10:780E:63D1:5B5C:4B69 (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

White Genoside in SA Not a theory

I live in South Africa and I saw the photos of the attacks and heard the torture like throwin boiling water in a throat, I also saw cctv footage of 2 robbers 1 with a military grade signal jammer you can't get as a civilian that were used in a farm attack in 2015, and the songs of kill the boer kill the farmer were sung so vehmenty some may have done it and EFF leader saying he is not calling for killing white just fo now 102.66.193.145 (talk) 16:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No original research Taffer 😊💬_(she/they) 16:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I request for where it says "South African government is now seizing land from white farmers" to be changed to "South African government is now seizing land from white farmers" since not all White South Africans are Afrikaners. 2A0A:EF40:1395:D501:E858:FE42:3024:692C (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aren't the farmers primary Afrikaners, who seem to be what the Intelligencer source is referring to when it refers to white farmers? 1101 (talk) 15:20, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Grayfell (talk) 22:37, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Julius Malema MP reacted, saying "there is no white genocide in South Africa"

Is this a joke? Why quote someone who actually openly calls for white genocide. Of course he is going to claim that. Why is his quote used as a definitive source? Here is one example: "Shoot to kill! Kill the Boer! The farmer! - Julius Malema". Is this not a call for genocide?

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1754905357267177692

https://x.com/DrewPavlou/status/1888648137339813941

Performing to a 100k strong crowd: “Shoot to kIll, kIll the boer, the farmer, prrr phaa, prrr phaa” https://x.com/twatterbaas/status/1764284927246217332

Maybe we should include this quote from Malema: “These people, when you want to hit them hard, go after a white man. They feel terrible pain because you have touched a white man. We're cutting the throat of whiteness. We will kill white women, children, and their pets.” Here, he is saying that on camera: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1888589439334584813

Elon Musk: "This is a major political party in the South African parliament and their leader is calling for genocide of white people"

So can we add a quote from Elon Musk? Or we can only quote Malema who claims "there is no white genocide in SA"? Zp112 (talk) 22:04, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The source for Malema's quote is the Guardian, which is a generally reliable outlet:

"Donald Trump's land seizures tweet draws angry reaction in South Africa". The Guardian. 23 August 2018. Archived from the original on 14 January 2021. Retrieved 23 August 2018.

If you know of a reliable source for this, propose it for discussion. WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. Decontextualized retweets originating from conspiracy theorists are very, very unlikely to be reliable sources. Grayfell (talk) 22:32, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"The source for Malema's quote is the Guardian" -- so technically you are correct. But do you see the irony here? That is the same Malema who also literally calls for the genocide in his speeches but because he denies that and his denial was quoted by the Guardian which is considered a "reliable source" we have to conclude that Malema's statement is true despite the evidence of the opposite -- regular calls for violence in his speeches. But because his speeches and calls for violence against whites are not covered by "reliable sources", this info is not reliable and cannot be included in the article even though there are tons of videos of him saying that but somehow what you can see with your own eyes is not a reliable source! Zp112 (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing 'ironic' about this. If you have a reliable source, share it. Grayfell (talk) 22:43, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"So can we add a quote from Elon Musk?" Since when is Elon Musk and his propaganda reliable sources? Where is Musk's reputation for fact-checking? Dimadick (talk) 22:39, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But quoting Malema is fine? That's a reliable source, right? Zp112 (talk) 21:28, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If a reliable source says he said it, then we can say he said it, if it is also WP:DUE. But is it due? I don't see how angry words from the leader of a party with 10% of the National Assembly amounts to genocide. O3000, Ret. (talk) 22:09, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh great, "it is only 10%, it is nothing". I understand the video right from the horse's mouth is not a "reliable source". But if he is so irrelevant, why does this article quote him as proof that there is nothing to worry about and "it is just a conspiracy theory, bro"? The editors could have picked some other politician who, at the very least, doesn't openly call for something he denies. Zp112 (talk) 03:36, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to find any actual white genocide in SA in any reliable sources. The Guardian article is more informative if fully digested. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Timothy McVeigh is not related to great replacement at all nor to Turner Diaries

Timothy McVeigh's intentions were not directly connected to racism or great replacement hypothesis.

remove timothy mcveigh 14:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC)Whiteingale andrew (talk) 14:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

McVeigh's influence from The Turner Diaries, a fundamental document in racial replacement doctrine as discussed elsewhere in the article, is well-documented and referenced. Did you read the references? Acroterion (talk) 15:22, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]