Talk:Russian Memorial Church of Saint Alexius (Leipzig)

Russian Memorial Church of Saint Alexius (Leipzig) was nominated as a Art and architecture good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (May 27, 2025, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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A fact from Russian Memorial Church of Saint Alexius (Leipzig) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 March 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Russia funded the building of the Russian Memorial Church in Leipzig (pictured) as a monument to the 22,000 Russians who died in the 1813 Battle of Leipzig against Napoleon?

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The result was: promoted by NightWolf1223 talk 14:46, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Front view of church exterior

... that Russia funded the building of the Russian Memorial Church in Leipzig (pictured) as a monument to the 22,000 Russians who died in the 1813 Battle of Leipzig against Napoleon?

Source: ^[1]

ALT1: ... that Kaiser Wilhelm II, King Frederick Augustus III and Archduke Franz Ferdinand on October 18, 1913 attended the dedication of the Memorial Church for the Russian dead of the Battle of Leipzig? Source: ^[2]^: 156
ALT2: ... that when the Soviets took over Leipzig, they extended the purpose of the Russian Memorial Church (pictured) to commemorate fallen Russians from World War II as well as the Battle of Leipzig? Source: ^[2]^: 166
ALT3: ... that the remains of several Russian soldiers who died in the Battle of Leipzig were transferred to the Russian Memorial Church (pictured) built one hundred years later to commemorate the battle? Source: ^[3]
Reviewed:

Moved to mainspace by Rufus the Unqualified (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Rufus the Unqualified (talk) 04:02, 14 February 2025 (UTC).[reply]

New enough (moved from draftspace), fairly comprehensive article, well referenced and readable. I did some minor tweaks for accuracy. Hooks are interesting, in the article, and referenced, AGF on offline sources. My personal preference is ALT0 or ALT2. Image is in the article and correctly licensed (I fixed its use in the template here). No QPQ necessary, good to go. Constantine ✍ 20:48, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Die russische Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig wurde 100". Monumente Online (in German). February 2014. Retrieved 2024-12-26.
^ ^a ^b Dmitrieva, Marina (2016-07-11). "Die Russische Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig als Erinnerungsort". In Dmitrieva, Marina; Karl, Lars (eds.). Das Jahr 1813, Ostmitteleuropa und Leipzig (in German). Köln: Böhlau Verlag Köln Weimar. ISBN 978-3-412-50399-4.
^ "Die russische St. Aleksij-Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig. : Orthodoxie Düsseldorf". Orthodoxie Düsseldorf (in German). 2013-11-19. Retrieved 2025-02-03.

GA review

Nominator withdrew, hopefully they renominate it when they return. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 03:29, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Russian Memorial Church of Saint Alexius (Leipzig)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Rufus the Unqualified (talk · contribs) 02:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Rollinginhisgrave (talk · contribs) 02:20, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a go at reviewing this over the next few days. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 02:20, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose and content

enhance the functionality of the church this stuff is super vague, and it's not clear how, for instance, a "large chandelier" "enhances the functionality of the church" in any or either respect
Why is so much emphasis given to who funded the 2018 restoration in the lead?
You link Iconostasis in the body for "wall of icons" but not in the lede, this would help.
The namesake section is undue. Should really be cut right down. See for instance St Botolph's Church, Quarrington and St Melangell's Church. You should be looking at sources discussing the namesake in relation to the Church to assess weight.
The Battle of Leipzig section is more DUE. However, again, try to pick from sources discussing the battle from the context of the Memorial, as they will emphasise elements relevant to architecture, death toll etc. Ensure this meets academic consensus at the same time.
Clarify initially when you say "Russia" paid for the church that this was not the state.
"ready to be dedicated on October 17, 1913" ready to be dedicated or dedicated?
Potrovsky designed the building with the Ascension Church [ru] in Kolomenskoye as a model → modelled the design on the...
I think there's a fundamental issue with the layout, and I would like to wait until it is restructured before I proceed with the review. The construction section primarily pertains to design, which should be its own section. Half of the body is background, this gives undue weight off the subject of the article (the church itself). I was going to simply skip the background sections, but I am now at 1913 Context and we are back in background. I'll leave this open for a few days to see how you progress and then jump back in.

Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 03:36, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I had not actually seen this until just now (I was expecting some sort of notification). I read over your feedback just now and will begin working on it in the next couple days. If you would be able to check back in about a week, that would be much appreciated. Thanks! Rufus the Unqualified (talk) 02:39, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rufus the Unqualified, can I get an update on your progress here? Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 06:42, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have started and am working on cutting a good portion of what you suggested to cut. However, I've been a bit busier than I thought I would be. I understand if you are no longer able to review it but I will now be shooting to address the revisions you requested by Sunday April 27. Rufus the Unqualified (talk) 21:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Take all the time you need. I may not be able to jump back into a review as soon as you have it ready but it hopefully won't be too long a delay. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 01:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to pull the nomination. I've decided to take a step back from Wikipedia. Thanks for your help.Rufus the Unqualified (talk) Rufus the Unqualified (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[e754-1] "Die russische Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig wurde 100". Monumente Online (in German). February 2014. Retrieved 2024-12-26.

[Dmitrieva-2] Dmitrieva, Marina (2016-07-11). "Die Russische Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig als Erinnerungsort". In Dmitrieva, Marina; Karl, Lars (eds.). Das Jahr 1813, Ostmitteleuropa und Leipzig (in German). Köln: Böhlau Verlag Köln Weimar. ISBN 978-3-412-50399-4.

[r686-3] "Die russische St. Aleksij-Gedächtniskirche in Leipzig. : Orthodoxie Düsseldorf". Orthodoxie Düsseldorf (in German). 2013-11-19. Retrieved 2025-02-03.

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