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Japanese train stations

There are dozens of unsourced stubs of Japanese train stations in Category:Articles lacking sources from October 2011 and Category:Articles lacking sources from November 2011. Can we rescue a few? Merge a few? Thank you in advance. Bearian (talk) 13:38, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Usually the Japanese Wikipedia will have sourcing; I will take a look at a few when I have time Jumpytoo Talk 17:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Bearian (talk) 23:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Regarding style advice for locomotive classes

I'm drafting an article about Japanese Pacific locomotives built for Thailand. The problem is that I don't know what to make the title of the article based on the guidance of the style advice. The Royal State Railways of Siam (RSR) did use letter classification, but that extended only to a limited number of locomotives and only extended to "E". The locomotives I am writing about definitely did NOT use this locomotive classification system, and I can only go off the running numbers, which are 283-92 and 821-50. The locomotives have been called the "Cx50" as in the Thai article, but I have been told that this is fanon, in addition to the article having dubious sourcing and reliability (original research). Do I go off the running numbers and title the article "RSR 283-92 and 821-50?" Or is there another way to title the article? Yugystudios (talk) 22:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

How does the source refer to them? Thryduulf (talk) 23:09, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Diagrams by Ramaer on p. 83 refer to them as "RSR Nos 283-292." Diagrams by Ramaer on p. 93 refer to them as "RSR Nos 821-) 849-850 (oil burning)", but for the sake of consistency, I will refer to them as "RSR Nos 821-850." But Ramaer on the same page refer to them as "RSR numbers 821-50." It ha also been referred to as RSR series 283-92 on a diagram at p. 94. Let me know if you need any more examples. Yugystudios (talk) 23:15, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article titles#Descriptive title states Where there is no acceptable set name for a topic, such that a title of our own conception is necessary, more latitude is allowed to form descriptive and unique titles.. It feels like there isn't a single set name for these locomotives so a descriptive title is the way to go. Based on the principles listed in the criteria section of the article titles policy my suggestion would be "RSR locomotives 283–292 and 821–850" with redirects from variations (e.g. without "locomotives", or "nos", "numbers", "series", etc instead). That is no more than a suggestion though, others may have a better idea. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

I understand, the guidelines provided are useful. Thank you for your assistance, it is much appreciated. Yugystudios (talk) 00:08, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

The only thing I would amplify from the suggestion above is that you use full numbers in the range naming, e.g 283–292 not 283–92. 10mmsocket (talk) 07:17, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Noted. Thank you! Yugystudios (talk) 02:55, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Yugystudios, are you going by an older version of the Thai article? Revisions in 2024 have removed all mentions of the CX50 name. In any case, "RSR locomotives 283–292 and 821–850" isn't optimal as a title as it utterly fails the WP:recognizability criterion (no one but the most extreme enthusiast will recognise the topic from the numbers). And it's not accurate either since the article also includes the five locomotives used by Jordan. Thai sources most consistently just refer to them as "Pacific steam locomotives", and this is reflected in the local English-language sources based on them.[1][2][3] If we're going to use a descriptive title, I think it would make more sense for it to be some variation of "Japanese Pacific locomotives built for Thailand", as worded in your opening statement. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:33, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your insight.

Firstly, I was going off another user's draft last updated on 2023-10-23, which is most likely an older version. The "Cx50" name may have been recognised as "fanon" and promptly removed, but I am informed the entire article still has questionable reliability, to the extent it cannot be allowed on EN WP, some Thai rail enthusiasts told me as of recent. Regarding the title, based on your recommendations, I think the title would be "RSR Japanese Pacific locomotives" or something, since only rail enthusiasts with reliable information would know their running numbers, like you said.

Reply back with any concerns/questions. Thanks! Yugystudios (talk) 15:31, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

Bibliography

• Ramaer, Roel (2009). The Railways of Thailand (2 ed.). Bangkok, Thailand: White Lotus. ISBN 978-974-480-151-7. Yugystudios (talk) 22:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Maroochydore railway line#Requested move 2 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:GWR Cathedral Class#Requested move 5 July 2025

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Under construction projects for GA?

Is it possible for something under construction (ie, Beaulieu Park railway station, Réseau express métropolitain) for GA? I'm planning to get the former to GA, the latter is just another example. JuniperChill (talk) 19:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't see why not, at least in theory. One of the GA criteria is that the article is stable and comprehensive, and that's going to be tricky with something that's actively progressing in the real world, but not impossible. Thryduulf (talk) 19:21, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

I just couldn't think of any stations that were nominated for GA during construction (or refurbishment). London Bridge station was nominated in October 2018, after the redevelopment was complete in January 2018. It was always my plan to nominate Beaulieu for GA a month after construction anyways, which should be before 2026. JuniperChill (talk) 19:45, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

My personal rule of thumb is that design should be finalized and construction actively underway. That means that major surprises like cancellation or major redesign are unlikely (though not impossible), and that the design/layout and planning history sections can be more or less at their final form. A GA-quality project/station article should only need relatively procedural updates as things proceed (construction milestone was reached on XX date, opening occurred on YY date) rather than major rewriting. I will note that films are only eligible for GA after release (WP:GAN#FILM), but that's a very different situation where major parts of the article (plot, reception, earnings) cannot be written until then.

Personally, I've gotten one project (Green Line Extension) and a number of stations (Gilman Square station, East Somerville station, etc) to GA during construction, and nominated others where the review happened after opening. I know SounderBruce has gotten some under-construction stations to GA as well. Only once (Freetown station) have I had any pushback to nominating an under-construction station, and that was based on personal idiosyncrasies of an inexperienced reviewer. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)

Paris–Saint-Germain-en-Laye railway and Paris-Saint-Lazare to Saint-Germain-en-Laye Line

The articles Paris–Saint-Germain-en-Laye railway and Paris-Saint-Lazare to Saint-Germain-en-Laye Line are both translations of the same French Wikipedia article, and they are nearly identical. I'm wondering if anyone here has insight on which version is preferable or which title is more appropriate for this sort of thing. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 01:26, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Based on other articles on French railway lines, the naming convention appears to be "Start–End railway" meaning Paris–Saint-Germain-en-Laye railway is the correct title. I've not looked at the articles in enough detail to say which is better. Thryduulf (talk) 09:59, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Kolkata Metro

Kolkata Metro has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 05:05, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Coordinates for Washington North Metro station

Csn anyone give geographical coordinates for the planned Washington North Metro station? This seems to be completely planned, so there must be a site plan somewhere. — The Anome (talk) 13:54, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

The official FAQ here says that the locations of the three stations have not yet been decided. Ymblanter (talk) 20:25, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Transit Access Pass#Requested move 20 July 2025

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Big project needs help

Dear good people: There remains a backlog of 48,000 articles at Category:Articles lacking sources, many hundreds of which are train station stubs. Can a few folks please help by adding reliable sources to at least some of these stubs? Bearian (talk) 20:16, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

An example: Herentals railway station. Bearian (talk) 20:39, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

An example of a railway: Ranna–Auerbach railway. This project will be hours and hours of fun! Bearian (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

You and I clearly have different ideas of fun. This Wikiproject is not your personal army, so I don't understand why you repeatedly show up on this talk page to demand we source articles for you. We are all aware many articles lack sourcing. We are also all volunteers and have our own lives and our own projects we work on. Why do you expect others to drop everything for an article on a closed branch line in Germany? Do you think I have a pile of books on German railways sitting in my home? Yes, it would be nice if we had no unsourced articles. However, I work full time and don't really want to spend my limited free time on something I have zero background knowledge of or resources about, in a language I don't speak, just because you ask me to. Maybe ask the original author why they felt it was ok to create the article with no sources in the first place?

It may not be your intention, but these repeated requests that others do work for you come across as demanding and disrespectful of other editors' time. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:15, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Macquarie University railway station#Requested move 22 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:Hunter Street railway station#Requested move 22 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:British Rail Class 93 (Stadler)

An editor has requested that British Rail Class 93 (Stadler) be moved to British Rail Class 93, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Danners430 _{tweaks made} 14:25, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Bloomingdale Trail Park#Requested move 25 July 2025

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DKA class F10

A class of 2-12-2 tank engines from Indonesia built between 1912 and 1928. Should we give the class their own article? 199.192.122.199 (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

If sources for the locomotive exist, you are more than welcome to start a draft about it. XtraJovial (talk • contribs) 17:55, 1 August 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Cawang LRT Station#Requested move 27 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:Bekasi Barat LRT Station#Requested move 28 July 2025

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Requested move at Talk:Sydney Trains A & B sets#Requested move 28 July 2025

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Good article reassessment for Kawasaki Heavy Industries C151

Kawasaki Heavy Industries C151 has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:27, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Chelsea railway station, Melbourne#Requested move 5 August 2025

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