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05:28, 4 April 2025 review of submission by Madhav Immigration

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WHAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN MY ARTICLE? Madhav Immigration (talk) 05:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Madhav Immigration: please don't shout.
Like your other draft, Draft:Hotel Management Education, of which this is essentially a duplicate, this one gives the impression that you have just written what you know about this subject, and then tagged some alleged references at the end, regardless of whether they actually support the contents. That isn't how Wikipedia articles are written. You need to find some reliable sources that discuss the subject, summarise what they have said, and cite each source against the information it has provided. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

07:17, 4 April 2025 review of submission by Trdta4

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submission declined: translated article about a book Hello, I recently submitted my draft of Draft:Our Holocaust (book). The draft is a translation of the same article from the Hebrew Wikipedia.
It was declined and I was given the following reasons.
1. Reliable sources - the original article references one source - an interview with the author. I brought this reference as is.
2. qualification for a Wikipedia article, esp. regarding the "notability of books".
The article clearly states the award received by the book, and the fact that the novel is the first for a prominent author. The author's article in Wikipedia (Amir Gutfreund) mentions this book and its translations.

I would appreciate your help in improving this article so that it may be resubmitted. Thank you. Trdta4 (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Trdta4: a single source, once cited, is nowhere near enough to verify the information.
And if you're relying on the award to satisfy WP:NBOOK #2, then we would normally require the award itself to be notable, which in Wikipedia terms means having its own article, which this one doesn't.
Whether an article on this book exists in he.wiki, or whether this book is mentioned in other en.wiki articles, is neither here nor there.
BTW, if you've translated this from he.wiki, you need to attribute that as the original; see WP:HOWTRANS for advice. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I moved the red link out of the header and replaced it with the draft title, as intended. 331dot (talk) 08:20, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

09:16, 4 April 2025 review of submission by RobertPottsAGB

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We want to create an article for our tour series very similar to what exists for World Archery on herehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archery_World_Cup so its starting as a base page and then we will add for each year, and have an overall hall of fame as well. I don't understand what else we can reference other than our national tour website and material that exists, i also don't understand how it can be independant, as its reporting factual information such as locations and then will go on to report the winners of the tour finals in each year as a hall of fame record. 

RobertPottsAGB (talk) 09:16, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RobertPottsAGB: Wikipedia articles mainly summarise what independent and reliable third parties (especially secondary sources) have said about a subject. This is what we call notability, and is a core requirement for inclusion in the encyclopaedia. If sufficient (in quality and quantity) sources do not exist, then they cannot be summarised, and an article therefore cannot be created. Your draft only cites close primary source, which cannot establish notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:20, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @RobertPottsAGB. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

11:23, 4 April 2025 review of submission by Eido95

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I’ve submitted a draft at Draft:Swords of Iron and would appreciate any feedback or a review.

I’ve disclosed a potential COI on the talk page due to living in Israel. Thank you! Eido95 (talk) 11:23, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Eido95: we don't do on-demand fast-track reviews here at the help desk; you'll get a review when a reviewer gets around to assessing the draft. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:17, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While, as DoubleGrazing notes, AFC isn't an alternate source for a pre-evaluation, there are some serious issues with the article. First, it reads as if it were AI-created, and GPTZero give it a 100% AI probability, with it estimating that everything after the lede sentence is AI-generated.
Second, while it gives the initial appearance of being well-sourced, 11 of the 14 sources linked are dead links. For a draft that is less than a day old, that is a shocking number of dead links, and the two most likely possibilities are either that AI tried to generate the cites -- which AI is notoriously incompetent at doing -- or extreme sloppiness.
In addition, you are not an extended confirmed editor, which means the only thing you should be doing on any subject related to the Israel-Palestine conflict is making constructive edit requests on Talk pages. This area is a notorious source of battlegrounds and sockpuppeting within Wikipedia, so there is a restriction on new users being able to edit in this topic. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent points, @CoffeeCrumbs. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's a conflict of interest to merely live in Israel. However, you are not yet extended-confirmed, so you can't make edits related to the conflict until you have 500 edits(you only have 12). You can submit a draft(though you couldn't edit it once accepted except via edit requests) but there is already an article about the war. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

13:13, 4 April 2025 review of submission by UmutYilmaz1

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Dear Wikipedia Editorial Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly seek clarification and guidance regarding the recent rejection of a draft Wikipedia article we submitted about Onder Albayram, Ph.D., a distinguished researcher and educator currently serving as a faculty member at a U.S. medical school.

Our intention in creating this page was to reflect the global impact of Dr. Albayram’s contributions to Neuroscience, which include multiple internationally recognized discoveries and educational innovations. Based on our understanding of Wikipedia’s notability standards for academics, we believe Dr. Albayram meets several of the listed criteria, including but not limited to:

- Significant original contributions that have received substantial coverage in independent, secondary sources. - Service on editorial boards and leadership within professional scientific organizations. - Recognition through national and international awards or media coverage. - A sustained and high-impact publication record in reputable journals.

However, we received feedback noting that the draft lacks sufficient references that demonstrate the subject’s notability under the academic-specific criteria, and that it does not cite multiple reliable, independent secondary sources that cover the subject in depth.

We would greatly appreciate your expert advice on how to bring this article into full compliance with Wikipedia’s expectations. Specifically:

- Could you kindly clarify whether academic notability must be demonstrated solely through third-party media coverage, or if citations in scholarly meta-analyses, systematic reviews, or scientific award announcements also qualify? - Are there specific types of independent sources (e.g., interviews, profiles in scientific publications, government or institutional press releases) that are particularly encouraged for satisfying the "secondary sources" requirement? - Would it be possible for you to review the current draft and highlight areas where improvements are needed, such as phrasing, structure, or types of citations?

Our aim is to create a fact-based, neutral, and verifiable biography that upholds Wikipedia’s high editorial standards and serves as a valuable resource to the global community. We are committed to making the necessary revisions and to working collaboratively with your team to ensure the draft meets Wikipedia’s notability and sourcing guidelines.

Thank you very much for your time and attention to this matter. We truly appreciate the work you do in maintaining the integrity of the platform and look forward to your guidance.

Warm regards, Umut UmutYilmaz1 (talk) 13:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Best way to start is not sending us an AI written question.
Additionally, if the subject works at your school you need to disclose this on your user page. Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Thehistorianisaac,
Many thanks for your reply.
I used AI-based language tools to assist with phrasing during the early draft of my questions. I thought that it might be better to explain my enthusiasm and fully fulfill my expectation that I am willing to work on these edits. I am so sorry if there was any misunderstanding.
To clarify, I have a professional affiliation with the institution where the subject of this draft is currently employed. I’ve added an apparent conflict of interest disclosure to my user page using Wikipedia's guidelines.
I would be gratefulif you could let me know to further improve my edits in Wikipedia standards, and a hive my entry to pass it further declines.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best,
Umut 2600:1700:97B0:35A0:60EE:EFEF:86C7:2E67 (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

15:39, 4 April 2025 review of submission by MikePlums

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Hey team, I have had this article rejected. When I look to brand wiki's for inspo, too many are have issues flagged by wikipedia moderators (example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homes.com) so I am not sure if there is a good example out there of a brand wiki that is suitable and something I can replicate. If there is, I would love to see it so I can alter this article so it is more inline with Wikipedia's requirements. Any help would be exceedingly useful, thanks!! MikePlums (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MikePlums The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in this process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
If you work for this company, that must be disclosed, see WP:PAID as well as WP:COI.
Beware in using other articles as a model- these too could be inappropriate and you would be unaware of this. As you see, the article about Homes.com is indeed problematic and not a good model to use. If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are classified as good articles, which have received community vetting.
You have summarized the routine activities of the company, this does not establish that the company is a notable company as Wikipedia defines one. To do that, you must summarize what independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about this company. 331dot (talk) 15:45, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Dot. I do not work for this company however I do work through 3rd party means. I can go back and flag this on the page as well as rewrite the issues. Thank you for taking the time to summarize the issues, it is very helpful.
Can I ask, do you think it matters if I have reliable 3rd party websites/articles about the company that are in Chinese as this is a Chinese company.
Mike MikePlums (talk) 15:56, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MikePlums You are required by the Terms of Use to make a formal paid editing disclosure; I'll post instructions on your user talk page. It doesn't matter if you work directly for the company or a third party.
Sources do not need to be in English, as long as they meet all other requirements of being reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
this is great and thank you so much for the assistance! I have followed your instructions and replied in to your message on said page. MikePlums (talk) 15:48, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@MikePlums: non-English sources are perfectly acceptable, as long as they otherwise meet our standards for reliability etc. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

17:29, 4 April 2025 review of submission by FehrScaper

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I accidentally submitted by sandbox page for review instead of the draft page that was the up to date version of the page. How can I remove it from the waiting list? (I have now submitted the correct draft page) FehrScaper (talk) 17:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@FehrScaper: Simply remove the AfC Submission template on the sandbox page; that will remove it from the queue. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for being dumb - but how do I do that? FehrScaper (talk) 17:40, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorted. I think. FehrScaper (talk) 17:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

17:30, 4 April 2025 review of submission by Wadsdas

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Man why did this get rejected I swear nothing I make ever gets accepted its actually starting to make me upset. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong Wadsdas (talk) 17:30, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wadsdas I would suggest you stop trying to create new articles and work on other things until you better understand the requirements of Wikipedia. If you are intent on trying to continue with the most difficult task on Wikipedia then read through the following links WP:YFA, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 17:33, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If that's the case then you lack the skills and knowledge needed to write new articles. Your draft is completely unsourced and says "little is known", meaning that the subject does not merit an article. 25 listeners hardly makes someone notable enough for inclusion in a global encyclopedia. 331dot (talk) 17:34, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot@Mcmatter I apologize for my lack of skills and knowledge but please try and be respectful and encouraging because I feel incredibly discouraged from continuing. Wadsdas (talk) 17:41, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I woukd suggest that you use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform on Wikipedia, and it isn't the only or even best way to contribute. 331dot (talk) 17:43, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:52, 4 April 2025 review of submission by W Chesam

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Need help improving declined draft for Warshim Chesam” Hi! My name is W Chesam. I created a draft about Warshim Chesam, a professional bodybuilder, but it was declined. Can someone please help me improve it so it can be accepted? W Chesam (talk) 21:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

W Chesam I fixed your post to provide a link to your draft as intended. You are speaking about Chesam as if you are not him, but his name is your username. Please clarify. 331dot (talk) 21:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I am Warshim Chesam. I understand that writing about yourself can lead to conflicts of interest, and I will follow Wikipedia’s guidelines carefully. I’m only seeking help to make sure the article is neutral, verifiable, and meets the notability standards. I really appreciate your guidance. 2405:201:AC02:B36F:51CB:F2AD:AA24:3ECA (talk) 21:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was confused- you put your name as an account name. You edited a user page, which is not article space. New accounts and IP users cannot directly create articles, and need to use the Article Wizard. Writing about yourself is highly discouraged, please read the autobiography policy. 331dot (talk) 22:01, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you got confused on where your draft is located. It looks like you have a draft that has not yet been reviewed at User:W Chesam/sandbox, but then somehow posted a decline notice yourself on a blank page outside you userspace at User:W chesam/sandbox (notice the lowercase name). Your draft is still at the initial page unreviewed and I tagged the other page for deletion. cyberdog958Talk 21:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was confused too, it seems. 331dot (talk) 22:03, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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