Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of municipalities in Washington/archive1

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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of municipalities in Washington

Featured list candidates/List of municipalities in Washington/archive1

Nominator(s): Sounder Bruce 06:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One of my bucket list items is to visit all 281 cities and towns in my home state of Washington, so I thought it was high time to improve the massive list before I reach the 100% mark (which is only a few road trips away from being accomplished). This list follows the format set at other recent lists of municipalities, especially those from Mattximus, and I believe it is ready for review. Sounder Bruce 06:35, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

MPGuy2824

Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. You've added the scopes but the line needs to start with a "!" not a "|".
- Fixed.
Some of the number columns are right aligned, but not all. All the ones which have a varying number of digits should be right aligned. The year column can be left as is.
- Fixed for the center-aligned columns.
The order of precedence seems to be first-class city > second-class city > code city > town. It would be great to have that column sort in this way. I'm not sure where the unclassified city would fit in there.
- The current sorting uses the most common order that these classifications are listed in (code city, 1st class, 2nd class, unclassified, town) by the government and MRSC.
  - I didn't mean the default sorting order, but order encountered when the table is sorted on that column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - @MPGuy2824: I was referring to the order when sorted by "Type"; the sortkey is "City X" for the types, which is alphabetical (code, first, second) and coincidentally aligns with the preferred ordering. Sounder Bruce 03:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      I read through the Classification section again and it looks like my previous assumption was wrong. The order of precedence seems to be code city > first-class city > second-class city > town and the column sorts correctly. Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:36, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Many of the refs are missing archive links. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:19, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I will be adding archived links once the bot is finished with its run (which typically takes a few days). Sounder Bruce 08:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Bot has been run and picked up most links; a few seem to be blocked (Reuters) or too new for it. Sounder Bruce 03:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - I did a mini-review prior to nomination and all my recommendations were made. I believe this list is at the featured level. I can find only one issue. There is a paragraph on mayor and manager and a mention in the lead, but no mention in the table. I wonder if there is a way to incorporate this into the table without a new column because I like the table as is. If there are only those two, and only a few managers, could a note be made for those which says all others are mayor? Or is there another creative solution? It would be a shame to just remove that paragraph which is another option. Mattximus (talk) 22:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattximus: I'm not sure if a new column would fit, nor would a separate notes system be warranted. I have added a sentence with the MRSC statistics, which show 227 mayor–council municipalities and 54 council–manager municipalities. MRSC also notes that the systems aren't fully separate, as some mayor–council cities have administrators who have powers similar to a city manager. Sounder Bruce 03:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well if nobody else has an issue with the mayor/manager being in the lead/text and not in the list, I will Support based on everything else which is excellent. Mattximus (talk) 21:37, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Spot checks dont find anything wrong
Links and dates are consistent
Why are none articles redlinked?

All I found, just need the redlink question cleared up. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redlinked articles are entities that should be notable but I simply have not found time to write about. OFM in particular is tricky because they have a lot of results where they're simply the source, rather than the subject. Sounder Bruce 18:51, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: Fixing the ping. Sounder Bruce 18:51, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:29, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cowboygilbert

@SounderBruce:, I am going to do some checks.
The key colors pass on other skins blue link colors ( ) but does not pass on the Vector 22 skins blue link color ( ). You can do your own test at the WebAIM constract checker if you don' trust me. So you should change the colors.
2020 and 2010 census under population should be flipped to show the rise in populations more easily.
That's all I really have, lol. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 23:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cowboygilbert: Good catch on the color contrast; since I don't use Vector 22, I didn't see that. It seems like this might be a bigger issue than just for this list, as the purple color is the default for navbox headers and would need to be changed. I've used this app to find colors that seem to pass the WebAIM test. As for the ordering of the population years, listing the more recent year first is the standard for other state/province municipality FLs and I don't think readers would be that confused by the current placement. Sounder Bruce 02:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - @SounderBruce: The colors are bolded in navbox titles and seem to pass the WCAG 2.0 AA but not WCAG 2.0 AAA, I'll figure out a palce to bring this up further. Thanks for catching that. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 04:15, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Cowboygilbert: Are we good to go with the checks? Sounder Bruce 09:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      Just following up to see if all of your concerns have been addressed @Cowboygilbert. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:11, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      - I have been at work the last couple days but Support Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 16:00, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TheDoctorWho

Considering this list is about Municipalities in Washington, would it make more sense to put that image first?
- Done.
You specify a highlight color in one image but not the other; both images only contain one highlight color, this should be consistent.
- Removed.
Also seems like that caption on the second map could be simplified, perhaps "Map of Washington with incorporated cities and towns highlighted in yellow" -> "Map of Washington with municipalities highlighted in yellow"
- Simplified.
"The municipal government generally provides policing, fire protection, emergency services" - are there other emergency services outside of the two that have already been listed? If so, perhaps specifying "other" emergency services since we've separated the two, otherwise it can be dropped.
- Removed.
"grants home rule powers" - what are home rule powers? A brief explanation wouldn't hurt, or at the bare minimum, a piped link to Home rule in the United States.
- Added the link. A fuller description probably belongs in the subarticle.
"In 1994, the minimum population to incorporate a municipality was raised to 1,500 by the state legislature, which has prevented the creation of new towns. - what was the minimum population required before it was raised?
- Added.
There are some issues with reference titles switching between sentence and title case, I suggest running this script to help clean those up.
- Moved to title case to match the majority.

Not much else to say here, nice work! TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:16, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TheDoctorWho: Thanks for the suggestions, I have implemented them all. Sounder Bruce 09:17, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great job, happy to support! TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:06, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

Ref 1 / 8 – You link to the United States Census Bureau in reference 8, when my understanding is you typically try to link on first occurrence, meaning it should be linked in reference 1 instead
- Fixed.
Ref 8 – Downcase 2010 United States Census to 2010 United States census to match the target
- Fixed.
Ref 17 – Add via=Issuu
- Added.
Ref 16 – Shouldn't this be a publisher of "Municipal Research and Services Center of Washington" based on page 2 of the source?
- The "of Washington" is not in common usage; the long form is rarely used and should be treated similar to corporate designations that are omitted per WP:CS1.
It actually looks like several of the sources should be "Municipal Research and Services Center of Washington" instead actually.
- See above.

That's what I've got, please ping me when you reply. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Hey man im josh: Replied above. Thanks for the review. Sounder Bruce 22:14, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I see now that the article is at Municipal Research and Services Center, lending credence to the common name mention. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:10, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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