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Thanks for checking my redirects
[edit]Thanks for checking my redirects. wait how do you do it? how do you check redirects? is it just redirects because when I made a new page I didn't get a message saying it was checked? so are there different people to check pages and redirects? I don't think ill ever wanna do it though, what if make a mistake and allow a bad redirect or a bad page to exist and it stays on wikipedia for years, im just cerous/wondering how you do it. Anthony2106 (talk) 13:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Anthony2106. Admins (of which I am one) and members of the WP:New Page Reviewer (NPR) user group have the option to mark pages as reviewed. I see that the article you mention, Angeline (Heartbreak High), has not yet been marked as reviewed, which is why you haven't received a message about it. All of the NPR members have the option to patrol redirects and articles, but each reviewer has their own interests and focuses and there's no requirement that they focus on anything specific. I myself prefer to patrol redirects, as it's often pretty easy to say "well this makes sense, I'll mark it as reviewed", whereas I typically have to do a bit more work for article reviews (not that I don't do them, I've done over 4,000 this year). As for a mistake, well, that happens to all of us. All we can do is our best, skip pages we're not comfortable marking as reviewed, and ask questions when we're unsure. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- You think my new page would of made it past articles for creation if I made it a draft?, I think it would because its just a episode, but I was worried it wouldn't so just made it directly, I thought to myself "if its longer then other page its fine" The Yellow Lotus was way shorter when made. Also if my page is never approved does it get deleted? Anthony2106 (talk) 14:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I gotta be honest @Anthony2106, episode articles are not my forte and I don't typically review those. With that said, the length of the pages are not typically the primary concern, but what determines notability will typically be the sources available. For articles, if the page is never marked as reviewed it simply stays in the new page queue. For redirects, they're removed from the queue after six months. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thank you. Anthony2106 (talk) 14:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- @user:Hey man im josh You know the redirect I made: Mental heath conditions well I didn't realize till after but its slightly pointless because it has a "s" at the end and I ended up not even using it. Do you think redirects with an "s" at the end are pointless? Also I vandled one time, you think this will stop me form becoming an admin? Anthony2106 (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Anthony2106: I think possible search terms, which include the pluralized versions of words, are helpful. They're certainly not making Wikipedia worse with their existence. As for adminship, that's likely a couple years away at minimum, but a vandalism edit early in isn't a disqualifying factor so long as it stopped and you build a good body of work afterwords. We all make mistakes. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:03, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh Hey can you please make my mum link to my Mom it's been protected for the last 12 years. Anthony2106 (talk) 09:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh I wanna bother you again and say you made a mistake here you should of tagged it with {{R from lyric}}, now you know for next time. Anthony2106 (talk) 04:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Anthony2106: That was over 2 years ago now... Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh I wanna bother you again and say you made a mistake here you should of tagged it with {{R from lyric}}, now you know for next time. Anthony2106 (talk) 04:29, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh Hey can you please make my mum link to my Mom it's been protected for the last 12 years. Anthony2106 (talk) 09:31, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Anthony2106: I think possible search terms, which include the pluralized versions of words, are helpful. They're certainly not making Wikipedia worse with their existence. As for adminship, that's likely a couple years away at minimum, but a vandalism edit early in isn't a disqualifying factor so long as it stopped and you build a good body of work afterwords. We all make mistakes. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:03, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- @user:Hey man im josh You know the redirect I made: Mental heath conditions well I didn't realize till after but its slightly pointless because it has a "s" at the end and I ended up not even using it. Do you think redirects with an "s" at the end are pointless? Also I vandled one time, you think this will stop me form becoming an admin? Anthony2106 (talk) 22:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok thank you. Anthony2106 (talk) 14:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I gotta be honest @Anthony2106, episode articles are not my forte and I don't typically review those. With that said, the length of the pages are not typically the primary concern, but what determines notability will typically be the sources available. For articles, if the page is never marked as reviewed it simply stays in the new page queue. For redirects, they're removed from the queue after six months. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:05, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- You think my new page would of made it past articles for creation if I made it a draft?, I think it would because its just a episode, but I was worried it wouldn't so just made it directly, I thought to myself "if its longer then other page its fine" The Yellow Lotus was way shorter when made. Also if my page is never approved does it get deleted? Anthony2106 (talk) 14:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
If you have a few minutes for WP:FLC in the next few days, there's maybe ~10 noms that have 3+ supports, are over 20 days and have source reviews. Would be nice to clear out the queue a bit :) no worries either way. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up @Gonzo fan2007, I'm still working on doing a bit of catchup from a bit of an absence I've had. However, you know me, I want to encourage folks to participate at FLC, which means promoting when it's time, so I'll definitely take a look as soon as I can today. I also do still plan on chiming in on your ping for the FLC coords. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- There was certainly a backlog of lists ready to be promoted, and I'm extremely grateful that many of them are because of your quality reviews @Gonzo fan2007! Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- I had some time and took a crack at some of them. There was maybe sone selfish reason involved too... haha. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- When you have a few minutes, a few more could use a check: 1, 2, 3. :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Meant to let you know that I took care of those @Gonzo fan2007. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you have a moment in the next few days, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Happy Holidays! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: NEVER! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: The song one needed a source review still, but I did it. I had been looking at these all last night and this morning to promote anyways. As for the AP assistant coach one, the coord/delegates don't promote their own work, so I'll wait for PresN or Giants to take care of that. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: NEVER! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- If you have a moment in the next few days, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Happy Holidays! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Meant to let you know that I took care of those @Gonzo fan2007. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- When you have a few minutes, a few more could use a check: 1, 2, 3. :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I had some time and took a crack at some of them. There was maybe sone selfish reason involved too... haha. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:25, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- There was certainly a backlog of lists ready to be promoted, and I'm extremely grateful that many of them are because of your quality reviews @Gonzo fan2007! Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Categories
[edit]Thanks for fixing the sandbox categories, I usually try to remember to do that (and comment out the PP template) but I forget sometimes. Is there a template or something I can put at the top of the page to always disable them? I know thete is draft cat but that also needs to be reapplied each time. The times I forget after when my computer is playing up I paste any unified edits to sandbox, but I forget to follow up the details after I reboot, so if there's something I can put in the sandbox header that would be ideal? Does the standard sandbox header do that? (Tag in reply please) Industrial Metal Brain (talk)
Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 16:28, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Industrial Metal Brain, I'm not aware of anything that does it automatically, no. I personally do prefer the draft cat template you've shared though. That automatically applies the categories once they're in main space, which is great. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:30, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- But does it work if I paste it into main space? Or only if I move it? I use that on actual drafts, but most of the things I forget to follow up on after a reboot are alternate versions of existing pages. I try to paste them onto text editors or Google docs sometimes, but then they often acquire curley quotes or weird line breaks etc. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: The draft categories template should auto convert, but rename the template itself, when entering main space. I cannot say what might work best with Google docs. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh thanks. Rename it to what? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 22:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: I'm sorry, I'm not actually sure what I meant when I said that... Either way, if you have that draft category template there and move the page to main space, the categories will automatically be enabled. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, I was asking what you meant by "but rename the template itself"? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 16:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Industrial Metal Brain, sorry, I'm catching up on talk page messages I missed. I believe I meant to suggest removing the draft category template. The categories will be enabled in main space, once the article is there, but the template will still be applied. It's more an issue of semantics, and technically not actually a problem at all, but more of a general suggestion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh. Sorry I missed this notification. My current system is to blank my user pages unless I'm actively working on them. If I do that then the categories and protection templates are not active in the wrong place, but I also don't accidentally remove or inactivate them when I paste a draft back to main? I save the draft, so it's in the history, then blank it almost immediately, then I undo the blank when I get back to it. Does this work the way I think it does? I think it solves all the problems? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 03:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Industrial Metal Brain, sorry, I'm catching up on talk page messages I missed. I believe I meant to suggest removing the draft category template. The categories will be enabled in main space, once the article is there, but the template will still be applied. It's more an issue of semantics, and technically not actually a problem at all, but more of a general suggestion. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh, I was asking what you meant by "but rename the template itself"? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 16:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: I'm sorry, I'm not actually sure what I meant when I said that... Either way, if you have that draft category template there and move the page to main space, the categories will automatically be enabled. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh thanks. Rename it to what? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 22:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: The draft categories template should auto convert, but rename the template itself, when entering main space. I cannot say what might work best with Google docs. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- But does it work if I paste it into main space? Or only if I move it? I use that on actual drafts, but most of the things I forget to follow up on after a reboot are alternate versions of existing pages. I try to paste them onto text editors or Google docs sometimes, but then they often acquire curley quotes or weird line breaks etc. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 16:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
1970 & 1970s
[edit]Sorry, I think I caused confusion by renaming the page in draft space before moving it back to main. Was the page I put in draft space the page that is now at 1970s or 1970?
I was trying to swap the page created in 2024 by me to be one of the redirects, and then use one of the original pages for the merged page, by pasting the current merge over it.
My goal was to have the history of the merged page include the date the contents was first created and who created it.
But it looks like the current 1970s merged page started in 2024?
But maybe what I was trying to do is not useful?
Sorry again for not communicating that very well.
Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 19:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: Let me know which page you want moved to this title and I will do so. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:07, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- It was a bit more complicated. I wanted the merged page to show the edits when some of the merged content was originally created, the pages for the years were all started at the same time by the same user so it doesn't matter much which year, there were five years that contributed most to the merged page.
- The way I was trying to do this was to swap the history of the pages 1970s in Croatian television with 1970 in Croatian television (one of the original pages and currently a redirect to the other page), but without swapping the current pages. I was trying to do this by swapping the pages and then swapping back the current contents by copy-paste, but I couldn't do it by myself because I can't move pages without creating a redirect, so I needed help deleting the redirects.
- But it probably works better if the same person does every step? So if you are able to do that, that would be good. Maybe in the content swap step you should say something like "years merged by…" and tag me?
- I haven't tried asking for a history merge because my request to merge the history for 1950s in Croatian television was rejected with reason "WP: parallel histories". But in that case I wanted two old pages merged. There is some parallel history for 1970 and 1970s, but much less because the other decades are all based on one of the individual years moved to a new name, whereas 1970s is a new page I made in draft space.
- If a history swap and a merge are both allowed for this pair, I would prefer a swap, so the oldest edits are less buried in the history. The current page history for 1970s in Croatian television is mostly edits I made in draft space, most of those edits can be summarized by "pages were merged", and if you say "pasted from 1970 in Croatian television" then anyone who really wants to see them can look on the history of the redirect. But anyone who wants to see the oldest date can click "oldest" in the page history, so if you think a history merge is better do it that way instead.
- Tag me if you reply here please. I "watch" too many pages, but I'm trying to keep up with notifications. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 05:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: To be honest, in this case, you should basically just cut and paste the relevant content and state something to the effect of "Merged from 1972 in Croatian television, see history for attribution". That would solve the issue and allow you to go through with the changes you're working on. The issue is typically when trying to change one page to another page, as opposed to merging several. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh sorry, I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean it is ok how it is currently and I don't need to do anything further? I think there is a template to show moves and merges, that might be the right way to show it. I have seen the "past moves" used on other talk pages, but I don't know if recording a merge has it's own template? Possibly we should have this conversation on the talk page of the page itself, then our conversation works as a record of what was done? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 04:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well everything needs to be merged from one spot to another, and merging all their histories into one page isn't what we do @Industrial Metal Brain. As such, when merging the content, mention in the edit summary that you're doing that. Additionally, you could also use the Template:Merged-from template on the talk page to indiciate this. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh sorry, I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean it is ok how it is currently and I don't need to do anything further? I think there is a template to show moves and merges, that might be the right way to show it. I have seen the "past moves" used on other talk pages, but I don't know if recording a merge has it's own template? Possibly we should have this conversation on the talk page of the page itself, then our conversation works as a record of what was done? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 04:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Industrial Metal Brain: To be honest, in this case, you should basically just cut and paste the relevant content and state something to the effect of "Merged from 1972 in Croatian television, see history for attribution". That would solve the issue and allow you to go through with the changes you're working on. The issue is typically when trying to change one page to another page, as opposed to merging several. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Hello Hey man im josh, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 05:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you @Vestrian24Bio, and to you as well!! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
You left me a message about this and I have responded. Do you still think this should be deleted? If so, what more is needed, please? NeroSpicy (talk) 13:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @NeroSpicy: Nothing, we let the discussion run its course and for those who are uninvolved to weigh in. Then an uninvolved person will close the discussion after determining consensus based on the weight of arguments made. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:52, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
You said Mary, Help of Christians "doesn't seem to have anything to do with the country or language" (German). It does now. I was hoping you could have a look at that, when you have time. NeroSpicy (talk) 14:04, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Coppa Italia
[edit]What is the key to the symbols? I am looking at the parentheses and don't understand their meaning. Example: parentheses and numbers by all of the teams in the second round. Thanks! Rossidor (talk) 16:50, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Rossidor: I actually don't typically edit soccer articles, but you might have more luck editing the talk page of the article in question. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks and sorry for contacting you in error. I had trouble finding the talk page of the article and will look closer - have a great day. Rossidor (talk) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give D raft:2024 NBA Cup championship game a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into 2024 NBA Cup championship game. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Izno (talk) 17:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Izno: It looks like my only part in that page was creating a redirect that was later turned into an article. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I usually do a history merge a less noisy way and didn't do that today woops. Izno (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Stainton
[edit]WP:ENGPLACE does say that when a unit isn't a proper noun we can use lower case compass directions. Stainton, Westmorland and Furness would be correct if it wasn't for Stainton, Dacre also being in Westmorland and Furness. Stainton (near Sedgwick) or Stainton (near Kendal) might be better due to Stainton with Adgarley so the article should be moved back to Stainton, south Cumbria or maybe better moved to one of the "near" alternatives, thanks. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:09, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hey @Crouch, Swale. Well that's annoying... I don't object to any move you have in mind, but ugh, it just feels awful to do "south Cumbria" when "South Cumbria" isn't a proper place. Blech. Thanks a lot for merging counties with so many identical names! Hey man im josh (talk) 18:13, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which one of these do you think would be best if you don't think we should use "south Cumbria"? Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'll defer to you in this case, I don't feel any option is particularly better than another, including reverting to the previous name (which I won't object to). Hey man im josh (talk) 18:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Which one of these do you think would be best if you don't think we should use "south Cumbria"? Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Comments at PERM
[edit]Thanks for your kind words. I've responded to Joe at my talk page and if you have additional feedback I'm open to it. Good to know I'm operating in consensus in my use of draftification. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971: You absolutely are. I've openly discussed my issues with Joe's views, and POV pushing, regarding draftification. I think his approach, which leads to more deletions, is far bitier to newcomers than sending something to draft space and saying, "hey, this needs a bit of work". He's actually convinced me of the importance of draftifying, and I've been doing it even more because of that. His views have pushed a number of good people away from NPP and I find it quite frustrating because I genuinely care. Unfortunately that led me to make those comments at PERM which frankly don't belong there and should have been made elsewhere, but I don't think that's how we should be teaching people or changing NPP's approach, with comments at PERM. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Josh what are you talking about? The discussion above is not even about draftifications. Dclemens1971 made a number of criticisms of another editor at PERM which I believe were unfair and so I responded to them at PERM, to reassure the editor that they were criticising that they were not doing a bad job.
- And can I for the second time this afternoon remind you that, while nobody can stop you shit-talking people on Discord, when you comment on Wikipedia you must abide by our conduct policies, which means providing evidence when casting aspersions such as that an newbie reviewer has been reviewing badly,[1] or that my "views expressed are typically done so at the wrong venues and not discussed / adopted at the relevant NPP talk pages",[2] that I am "POV pushing" or that I have "pushed a number of good people away from NPP".
- You are an admin now. Set a better example. – Joe (talk) 13:14, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe:
Josh what are you talking about? The discussion above is not even about draftifications.
Uhhh....? I'm responding to a comment on my talk page that mentioned their usage of draftification. Do you see where they said "Good to know I'm operating in consensus in my use of draftification.
"? That, that's what I'm talking about. You are an admin now. Set a better example.
Take me to admin recall if you see fit. It's not a crime to forget to come back to a message lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)- I know you're not stupid, so what exactly is the point of pretending that you think the issue with your admin conduct here is "forget[ting] to come back to a message lol" and not you repeatedly casting aspersions on me and other editors? – Joe (talk) 14:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry @Joe Roe, but I'm not really interested in discussing this further if you refuse to WP:AGF of others. I have a lot going on and it's not unreasonable to believe I legitimate forgot to come back to the discussion until I was pinged to it. I do not wish to waste time on conversations if they are not going to be constructive. As for the aspersions you believe were cast towards the applicant, I specifically stated that I hadn't (yet) had time to investigate them, but wanted to note them. It's not unreasonable to request a thorough review of an applicant. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- PS, if you want to accuse someone else of aspersions, perhaps you should consider checking yourself about it? You have, twice today, cast aspersions regarding Discord[3][4], something you have a very thorough history of doing.[5][6][7] Hey man im josh (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry @Joe Roe, but I'm not really interested in discussing this further if you refuse to WP:AGF of others. I have a lot going on and it's not unreasonable to believe I legitimate forgot to come back to the discussion until I was pinged to it. I do not wish to waste time on conversations if they are not going to be constructive. As for the aspersions you believe were cast towards the applicant, I specifically stated that I hadn't (yet) had time to investigate them, but wanted to note them. It's not unreasonable to request a thorough review of an applicant. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I know you're not stupid, so what exactly is the point of pretending that you think the issue with your admin conduct here is "forget[ting] to come back to a message lol" and not you repeatedly casting aspersions on me and other editors? – Joe (talk) 14:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Joe Roe:
Happy Holidays
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Hello Hey man im josh: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

- Thank you @WikiOriginal-9, and to you as well! it's been a pleasure working alongside you in the NFL realm. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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- @HouseBlaster thank you so much for the kind words! They mean a lot coming from one of my favourite new admins and I'm grateful for the recognition as well as all the great work that you do :) Hey man im josh (talk) 23:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Of course, Josh :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025! |
Hello Hey man im josh, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
— Benison (Beni · talk) 18:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Benison thank you for taking time out of your day to spread the love! Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 23:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Have you seen this?
[edit]One of the recent talk page discussions you took part in was shown on a vtuber's livestream 😅! It was a stream showing talk page discussions they found interesting/funny to read (watch?v=0nB58ASPAhw&t=2085).
That's it, that's all I wanted to show you. – 2804:F1...60:4C25 (::/32) (talk) 21:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I did see that! I believe, from the start of them showing that talk page to the end, it was about 20 minutes. They had my signature on screen for most of it as well and I was amused at how they said my name (which I liked and hope others think of as a good way to say it). I did start celebrating when they mentioned sub sandwiches and they support the idea that hot dogs are sandwiches. Those girls are alright in my books! Hey man im josh (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Christmas
[edit]- Thanks so much @Onel5969! Your work is, as always, greatly appreciated and has a greater impact than you typically get credit for. I've always, and will always, greatly appreciate everything that you do, even if you've moved on from where I first noticed you :) Hey man im josh (talk) 00:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
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Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa,
Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia,
here's hoping your holiday time is wonderful and
- especially -
that the New Year will be an improvement on the old.
CHEERS!
{{subst:User:Shearonink/Holiday}}
to your friends' talk pages.(Sent: 01:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC))
Thank you greatly for persuading me into trying out featured lists, really helped me get outside my regular wiki bubble. Cheers! Kline • talk • contribs 01:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank YOU for trying out featured lists @Kline! I've enjoyed our interactions and crossovers, and I appreciate the kind holiday message. I wish you a happy/merry whatever it is you celebrate, and I hope our paths continue to cross, particularly at WP:FLC =D Hey man im josh (talk) 13:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Season's Greetings
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Hello Hey man im josh: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 01:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

- Thank you @AntiCompositeNumber, I appreciate the message and it's been a pleasure interacting with and getting to know you over the last year+. I hope you have a wonderful holiday season! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Seasonal greetings!
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Hello Hey man im josh: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, 1234qwer1234qwer4 19:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

- Thank you @1234qwer1234qwer4, I'm always grateful for those who take the time out of their day to send kind messages to others or award barnstars. It's been a pleasure chatting with you and interacting more over the last year, and I'm grateful for all that you do, both here and across all Wikis! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Aay, thanks for the kind words –
I was totally too lazy to write something more personalised, sorry!1234qwer1234qwer4 00:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Aay, thanks for the kind words –
Season's Greetings
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025! |
Hello Hey man im josh, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
- Thank you @History6042, I hope your holidays are absolutely wonderful! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
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Hello Hey man im josh: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Abishe (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Abishe (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @Abishe! And to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]Your forgot to add the actual oldid on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Billboard number-one country songs of 2024/archive1, and now it links to the Main Page. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 18:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agh, thanks for the heads up @Armbrust! I've made the fix. I typically leave that part out when I have no criticisms because they don't need to oldid in a case where they're not making a ton of changes that are hard to track based on ref numbers. That's what I get for getting comfortable in my reviews
Self-trout. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025! |
Hello Hey man im josh, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
- Oh looks like I missed responding to this. Thanks so much @TheBritinator, I hope your holidays and were wonderful and that you have a wonderful new year! Hey man im josh (talk)
The Signpost: 24 December 2024
[edit]- From the archives: Where to draw the line in reporting?
- Recent research: "Wikipedia editors are quite prosocial", but those motivated by "social image" may put quantity over quality
- Gallery: A feast of holidays and carols
- Traffic report: Was a long and dark December
Have a Merry!
[edit]Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours, Josh. All the best, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 03:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks @John, and to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
2027 ICC Women's Champions Trophy
[edit]Hi! 2027 ICC Women's Champions Trophy is the actual page maintained since April 2024, while 2027 ICC Women's T20 Champions Cup was a hoax page created last month. Which is why I redirected it to the actual page, but you have mistaken it for a "cut and paste move" here and here. It has already been fixed by another user, I just wanted to let you know. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 07:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough, thanks @Vestrian24Bio. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:49, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Hey man im a seasonal greeting
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– 🌻 Hilst (talk | contribs) is wishing you Happy Holidays! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user Happy Holidays, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Happy holidays}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
- Thank you Hilst, and to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 21:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
Thoughts? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: Feeling like it's probably not notable long term and likely fails WP:LASTING. There's a number of other games we have that fit the bill as well, but I'm glad we've at least, as a group, made an effort to not have that number balloon. With that said, I hope this gets nominated and if/when I get more time (working lots of OT lately) I'd likely want to nom it for deletion if someone else doesn't beat me to it. You know I'm a Lions homer, so if I could argue it's worth keeping I would lol. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Promotion of AP NFL Assistant Coach of the Year Award
[edit]Review of page
[edit]Hey man I was wondering if you could review my page? I've been waiting for like over a month for a reviewer. I hope this doesn't come as a nuisance I just wasn't able to find the right board for me to request a review. The page is World of T-Shirts. Thanks again for your time. Yedaman54 (talk) 08:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry @Yedaman54, I do not review pages upon request. I avoid doing so because I don't want to give priority to folks simply based on asking, otherwise I'd get bombarded with requests regularly. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Completely understandable thank you for your time. Yedaman54 (talk) 20:13, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
In appreciation of your hard work at FLC - as a coordinator, a reviewer, and in getting a tremendous number of lists to FL status. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC) |
- @Dylan620 thanks so much for taking the time to leave me a barnstar and these kind words! I'm grateful for your participation at FLC, both as a nominator and reviewer. I look forward to and hope for a long future of continued interactions at FLC :) Hey man im josh (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Opinion on an ECR Request
[edit]Hi @Hey man im josh, may I ask for your opinion on an ECR request Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed#User:Boutboul. Thanks in advance. Michael Boutboul (talk) 18:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Boutboul: Sorry, I do not process permission requests on request, or frankly, extended confirm requests at all. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your answer Michael Boutboul (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Article not suitable
[edit]The article Hong Jong Yee is not suitable for Wikipedia, as there are little to no sources about him. Gnu779 (talk) 13:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I believe you're referring to Draft:Hong Jen Yee, which is a page that you started which I moved to draft space. Are you requesting anything by making this comment @Gnu779? Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm gonna nominate it for deletion. Gnu779 (talk) 13:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnu779: If you would like the page to be deleted you can add {{Db-G7}} to the top of the draft. It will then be deleted at your request, as the only substantial contributions were made by you. It would be eligible for undeletion at WP:REFUND if you ever decided you wanted to work on it again. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yay! I can finally delete it. Gnu779 (talk) 13:50, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Gnu779: If you would like the page to be deleted you can add {{Db-G7}} to the top of the draft. It will then be deleted at your request, as the only substantial contributions were made by you. It would be eligible for undeletion at WP:REFUND if you ever decided you wanted to work on it again. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm gonna nominate it for deletion. Gnu779 (talk) 13:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Minor Vandalism Warning (please don't)
[edit]Hi @Hey_man_im_josh, I want to let you know I've reverted one or more of your contributions If you think it's censorship, Wiki kid-friendly video games and media doesn't equal mentions or links regarding a Pornographic topic. If you think I made a mistake or have questions, don't answer me. Please note that continued vandalism to add anything inappropriate may lead to restrictions or bans. 2601:680:CD00:7A80:B8D5:E7DB:97E1:8697 (talk) 13:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- I understand you said not to answer you, but you came to my talk page, so I will anyways. You have not actually reverted my contribution, as I've blocked you from the article for a month for edit warring. This is very clearly not vandalism, as, despite your concerns, restoring sourced content is not considered vandalism in this case. As someone else explained to you, your changes were contested, so you should be discussing the changes on the article talk page instead of edit warring over it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Hey man im josh!
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Hey man im josh,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 16:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Abishe (talk) 16:10, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @Abishe, and to you! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Hayden Jones
[edit]Hi, I just noticed the unlinking of Hayden Jones from Theatre 625 and was surprised to see an AfD about a tennis player. Was the article ever about the actor? DuncanHill (talk) 16:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @DuncanHill: It does not look like it was ever about an actor, no. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. DuncanHill (talk) 16:44, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
Happy New Year, Hey man im josh! In 2024, other editors thanked you 1106 times using the thanks tool on the English Wikipedia. This made you the #10 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024. Congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Wikipedia. Here's to 2025! Mz7 (talk) 19:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
- Incidentally, you were also the #6 most thankful Wikipedian, having used the thanks tool 1972 times! Mz7 (talk) 19:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's pretty awesome, thanks so much for the interesting info and Barnstar @Mz7! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect discussion
[edit]Hello, I just came to see שभोजपुरी which you nominated for discussion. But I'm unable to understand why it survived? see Talk:שभोजपुरी and your edit. Regards. --SM7--talk-- 19:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SM7: I removed the nomination because I never intended to actually nominate that one, I did so by mistake. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Happy holidays!
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Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Wikipedia in 2024! Wishing you a Very happy and productive 2025! ♦ Maliner (talk) 21:26, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you @Maliner, and to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!
[edit]Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.
For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.
The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Hey man im josh!
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Hey man im josh,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Galaxybeing (talk) 05:24, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @Galaxybeing, and to you as well! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:31, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
Category:Karras football family has been nominated for renaming
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Category:Karras football family has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Thanks for fixing up the page move. I had forgot to put a space before moving and realised it at the last second but it was too late. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure no problem, those things happen to the best of us @Ratnahastin. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Khasha
[edit]For the longest time this used to be a redirect to Khasa until an IP [8] belonging to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thakor Sumant Sinhji Jhala hijacked it, as soon as that was done, an account moved it to the title Khasia (clan) in order to "create" the article on that particular Koli clan. This is the standard behaviour with this sockfarm, they move redirects or pages to the title they would want to create an article on and then when page moves are reverted they simply hijack the leftover redirects and in other cases, hijack existing redirects in order to "create" articles on koli caste directly into the mainspace. For the past 6 months I have been trying to fight this disruption, and enlisted help of an an admin that has been doing the same [9] who fixed most of these redirect hijackings and page moves by socks. I think you should self revert this because the page title is not correct anymore and we would only be letting an LTA get away with abusing Wikipedia for caste promotion. - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Ratnahastin, I've actually been aware of a someone who's repeatedly been blanking and going after clan/caste articles, though my understanding was it was actually several socks. They've repeatedly blanked or redirected pages, and it's frustrating and annoying that it's happening so frequently (I work from the back of the NPP queue, and that's how I notice these). I suppose I just figured that's what was going on here, and at a cursory glance, it didn't stick out to me as being about the same entities. I'll defer to you and restore the redirect in this case, as I'm confident you're more familiar with this case than I am. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:48, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are several socks all in caste area that do the that, one example is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Truthfindervert that usually tries to redirect caste articles without actually blanking them which causes them to end up in NPP queue but not as redirects, or Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anujror that creates content forks from already stub caste articles but no one is as sophisticated and experienced in causing disruption as the one I mentioned. - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yep, I'm lucky enough to catch what I do and I do what I can. Thank you for your efforts @Ratnahastin. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are several socks all in caste area that do the that, one example is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Truthfindervert that usually tries to redirect caste articles without actually blanking them which causes them to end up in NPP queue but not as redirects, or Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anujror that creates content forks from already stub caste articles but no one is as sophisticated and experienced in causing disruption as the one I mentioned. - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks!
[edit]thanks for review of Save Austin Now Mbcoats (talk) 04:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Mbcoats: Thank you for going to the effort to make it! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Aaron Rodgers sack record
[edit]Favre’s interception record is displayed in his bio so I think Rodgers should be for sacks Eg224 (talk) 17:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Eg224: One page having something doesn't mean another page should have it.
- Some other examples of negative stats not in player infoboxes:
- Annual intercepted pass leaders
- Annual sacked QB leaders
- Tom Brady (or any other quarterback) having the record for most times sacked
- George Blanda having the most interceptions in a season
- Most quarterback fumbles
- Just because you can find one example of a "negative" record being included under the accomplishments section of an infobox doesn't mean we include those for every other situation. I actually went ahead and removed the record from Brett Favre's infobox as well. Being the all-time leader in interceptions certainly shouldn't be listed as an accomplishment, despite of course being a notable record. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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The Redirect Barnstar | |
Thank you for reviewing my near-spamming of various Royal Navy ship redirects! GGOTCC (talk) 03:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC) |
- Thanks so much for the barnstar and the effort you put in to make those redirects @GGOTCC! Hey man im josh (talk) 20:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).
- Following an RFC, Wikipedia:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
- The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
- Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.
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I applied for NPR flag request for past 10 days but I got no sufficient response as a result of huge backlog. Should I withdraw and re-request again after few days or should I still wait until a admin review it. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔) 15:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CSMention269: There is nothing to be gained by withdrawing your request and re-submitting it several days later. If it's taken that long for your request to be processed, it typically means no one has felt comfortable enough to do so yet. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, got that hint. Thanks. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔) 15:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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The New Page Reviewer's Gold Award | |
This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for conducting 5,224 article reviews in 2024. Thank you so much for all your excellent work. Keep it up! |
– DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
The redirect 2023 Dolphins season (Disambiguation) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 9 § 2023 Dolphins season (Disambiguation) until a consensus is reached. Utopes (talk / cont) 00:47, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Has my new page reviewer right been deleted?
[edit]Hi Josh. Please would you kindly check whether my new page user right has been deleted? Because I am primarily an editor creating articles, I only do the new page reviewer bit occasionally, and when I do, I tend to do just a few, but in depth and at length. But recently when I have attempted to do some more new page reviewing, I cannot find the tools required. I think that there mare be regular clearouts of apparently absent members in the list, and perhaps they thought that I was no longer willing to take part? Is there a place for people like me, who do not show their face all the time? If I have been accidentally chucked out, please reinstate me if you can? Storye book (talk) 09:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Storye book: We typically only remove the NPR user right from users who have misused the tools, who have edited for pay, or who have been inactive for 12 months, per WP:NPPREVOKE. In your case, your trial was extended and expired in June of 2024. You m ay request the perm again at WP:PERM/NPR. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you. I shall apply for the permission again. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 19:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Problematic editor
[edit]Just thought I'd let you know. As per previous discussions, issues with Bgsu98 have been brought to ANI by another editor here, and I've provided some concrete examples of my previous assertions. JTtheOG (talk) 22:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @JTtheOG: Thanks for the heads up based on our prior discussion. I won't be participating but I'll be monitoring the discussion. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
two undeletion requests
[edit]Hello. I am currently working on Fastily's task, would you kindly paste the contents of User:FastilyBot/Task5Ignore to User:KiranBOT/Task15ignore? and contents of Tk Wilson to Draft:Tk Wilson (I should have moved it to draft in the first place). Thanks a lot in advance. —usernamekiran (talk) 07:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Both done @Usernamekiran. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- thank you! —usernamekiran (talk) 15:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Virtual award
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I've never awarded anyone before, but this is for you, (hopefully it works) thank uoi for your support Nabulowa (talk) 13:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much @Nabulowa! I appreciate that you're going out of your way to give someone a virtual award, and I hope you'll do so again in the future. It's always awesome to let people know they're appreciate or doing a good job. You were close with the above template, but this award actually failed to properly turn into a template because of the code and nowiki tags you added. In practice, it'd be best to do
{{subst:WikiCookie|Optional caption/message}}
. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:58, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
How?
[edit]How did I miss the last promotion for 2024? I think you need a smaller talk page, Josh. ;/ Congrats!!! Regards, John Bringingthewood (talk) 01:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Naaaaaaah, I don't think I do :P Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]Hey man, it's been a while. So what do I still need to do to be able to re-apply for the WP:TPE right again? Also, was the WP:CONSENSUS established over at WT:NFL to not include the |border=2
parameter in the |basestyle=
of all 32 NFL team templates? If so, I can respect that. CharlesEditor23 (talk) 06:22, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CharlesEditor23: Given that there's a history of issues, I wouldn't rush into it yet regarding TPE. Your best bet is to continue to make requests that you can point to as showing that you know what you're doing and that you're listening to feedback that others have provided. Regarding the border, I think there's at least consensus that there is no consensus. I don't recall seeing support for it, but I do recall seeing several folks opposed to it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:57, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Promotion of 1992 Summer Olympics medal table
[edit]Much better
[edit]Finally a quick congratulations is in order! Well done, Josh!! Maybe you can keep your talk page the way it is, lol. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:28, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks John! Hey man im josh (talk) 15:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
The Signpost: 15 January 2025
[edit]- From the editors: Looking back, looking forward
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2024
- In the media: Will you be targeted?
- Technology report: New Calculator template brings interactivity at last
- Opinion: Reflections one score hence
- Serendipity: What we've left behind, and where we want to go next
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Rollback request
[edit]Hey Josh, I need a quick favor if you don't mind. I need List of premature professional wrestling deaths rolled back to before me or SummeRStorm79 made any edits; so the version by Liz. I tried to help revert some edits that he made and was looking for help to fix, but I accidentally reverted it wrong and caused an edit conflict, which effectively broke a lot. If you could just roll that back that'd be much appreciated. Thanks! Therguy10 (talk) 22:19, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Therguy10: For reference, an admin or rollback would not have been necessary in this case. I think I understand what you mean, in that you want to restore an older version, but you're using the terminology of "rollback", which is typically meant to refer to the one click button that's used to revert vandalism. Per the link at the relevant discussion, I restored the page to the requested version. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete Talk:Anti-money laundering
[edit]Hey man, I have noticed that you have declined my request to delete the talk page redirect. Please let me explain this somewhat special case:
- In 2005, the corresponding article was created.
- In 2011, it was merged into Money laundering.
- In 2023, it was split back, but into a different page due to different title spelling.
This resulted in an article, whose history is spread over two pages, without temporal overlap. There were also two talk pages.
Solution to this issue:
- For the article:
- Merge the history from the old page to the new page and keep the redirect.
Done
- Merge the history from the old page to the new page and keep the redirect.
- For the talk pages:
Is it clear now? — Petr Matas 20:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Petr Matas: Where are you getting this checklist? For reference, this isn't a particularly special case, and it was never unclear to me what had happened. The page was moved at one point from this title, it looks like after being there for ~3 years, and when a page is moved we typically leave a redirect behind. I don't see how deleting the talk page redirect to the current target is an improvement to Wikipedia at all and I'm of the mindset that redirected talk pages to the new location are beneficial. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- The checklist is my solution. Concerning the article move, it did happen in 2023, but from yet another title (Anti-Money Laundering). This left behind an article redirect and no talk page, which is both correct, but we aren't interested in these. The article redirect in question (Anti-money laundering) is a different one. It was not created by the move, but just updated after the move to avoid double redirect. The corresponding old talk page was not affected by the move at all; it only turned into the redirect, that I want to delete, after a merge into the new talk page. Its history has been moved there as well. Concerning talk page redirects in general, I thought that we keep them only for their history or to make sure that related discussions take place at just one talk page. None of these is our case. By the way, when moving an article, we leave behind an article redirect, but no talk redirect, right? I agree that keeping this talk redirect makes no harm, but it is useless, because everyone will look for the talk page accompanying the actual article. — Petr Matas 22:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Petr Matas: The original talk page was moved from that title, way back when.
By the way, when moving an article, we leave behind an article redirect, but no talk redirect, right?
– That is incorrect. When moving a page you DO leave behind a redirect for the talk page. You'll notice this is the norm when you move a page and it automatically leaves a redirect for the talk page. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2025 (UTC)- Let's keep the redirect then. Thanks for your explanation. — Petr Matas 07:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Petr Matas: The original talk page was moved from that title, way back when.
- The checklist is my solution. Concerning the article move, it did happen in 2023, but from yet another title (Anti-Money Laundering). This left behind an article redirect and no talk page, which is both correct, but we aren't interested in these. The article redirect in question (Anti-money laundering) is a different one. It was not created by the move, but just updated after the move to avoid double redirect. The corresponding old talk page was not affected by the move at all; it only turned into the redirect, that I want to delete, after a merge into the new talk page. Its history has been moved there as well. Concerning talk page redirects in general, I thought that we keep them only for their history or to make sure that related discussions take place at just one talk page. None of these is our case. By the way, when moving an article, we leave behind an article redirect, but no talk redirect, right? I agree that keeping this talk redirect makes no harm, but it is useless, because everyone will look for the talk page accompanying the actual article. — Petr Matas 22:12, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Pre-1982 sacks
[edit]Hi Josh. I noticed the sack addition for Alan Page. Myself and KristofferAG were going back and forth with an editor who was adding 'unofficial' sacks to Lyle Alzado's infobox. Yet another editor seemed to add and/or amend dozens due to pfr going with 1960 .. and no consensus at the time. I let that go. Honestly, I always went with official in the infobox, thinking that was the way. Kind of like the AP only conversation we had with All-Pro and All-American. I'm just looking for a good response, in case I'm reverted, lol. Thanks in advance. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Bringingthewood, feel free to revert for the time being, but I'll look for more sources. I believe the NFL and pro football Hall of fame sort of pseudo recognize these stats since they're been compiled. I'm going off memory though, and could be wrong. Hey man im josh (talk) 04:06, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- No revert needed, it's fine with me. I'll stay away from other editors regarding this certain stat, having no current consensus to back me up. It would be cool if it was (PFR from 1960), many of the older players were slighted with 1982 being the official year. Maybe when the season is over we can all get something worked out. Enjoy your weekend and thanks again. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:19, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Help with source archiving
[edit]Good Morning! Can you recommend a bot that will automatically do the archiving for sources in an article? Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Bgsu98, I typically run IAbot on pages I'm interested in having archived. The external link can be found here. By default it will only add archives to dead links, but I typically select to add archives to non-dead references as well. You're also able to run it on entire categories if you'd like, but you won't have the option to add links to non-dead references on batch runs. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:01, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, that is exactly what I was looking for! I will run it for the Ukrainian article I’ve submitted to FL, plus the other championship pages as I finish them. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
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Padul
[edit]Hello! I have a problem and I think you can help me. I don't know how to move the article from "Padul, Granada" to "Padul". Please, I need to fix this anomaly. Currently "Padul" redirects to "Padul, Granada"... Lopezsuarez (talk) 22:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Lopezsuarez: You can request page moves at WP:RM/TR. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hi again. Can't you do the redirection yourself? I don't understand where to request the redirection. Lopezsuarez (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
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Thanks for dealing with @Derpytoucan. You have great interpersonal skills! If I may ask, how often do you have to deal with incidents/people like that? (@3OpenEyes's device is broken. If there is an IP here, please click this link.) 74.104.160.163 (talk) 17:56, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- @3OpenEyes: Thank you for the compliment and the cookie, I very much appreciate! The ways I deal with are simply practice, making major efforts to assume good faith, keeping in mind that we're working otwards the same common goal, and learning from experiences where it's not gone well in the past. No one is perfect, I make mistakes still, but I'm always working at it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Draft:Nana (entertainer, born 2001)
[edit]I created a draft based on the redirected article and expanded it from the original content. The article was redirected some time ago, though I don’t believe it should have been. It seems the editor who was reviewing the article left the template in place but hasn’t been active recently. I’m wondering what steps should be taken at this point. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 01:55, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy: Ideally, I think we'd move it to main space (if the reviewer saw fit) and history merge the old page to the new. I wasn't available to handle said action at the time, which is why I declined it, but truthfully I still should have left a message to go along with it. With that said, I'm not sure there's a significant enough difference, though there clearly is some, between this version and the one that was redirected as a result of the AfD. I do recognize there's more references, and it's been improved upon, but I'm not sure it'd survive at AfD if sent there again. Pinging @RachelTensions for their thoughts, as they had originally nominated the main space page to AfD. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:17, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see much that would establish notability outside of her groups and/or the reality show that created those groups; there is little sigcov that covers her in specific. If another reviewer at AfC feels differently then I'm all ears. RachelTensions (talk) 14:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RachelTensions You mentioned that she doesn't have much notability outside of her group, but that's not entirely true. She has acting roles and hosting experience, so it's not like she has nothing to build on. I can understand if it were just a few appearances, but she does have a solid foundation to work with. I often come across articles about Korean idols whose activities don't even compare to hers, yet they still have articles. I'm honestly not sure how that part was overlooked. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 18:36, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see much that would establish notability outside of her groups and/or the reality show that created those groups; there is little sigcov that covers her in specific. If another reviewer at AfC feels differently then I'm all ears. RachelTensions (talk) 14:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Fine?
[edit]Your edit summary: Alternative capitalizations of "episode" are entirely fine.
MOS:TITLECAPS: English Wikipedia uses sentence case
??? Paradoctor (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Paradoctor: I implore you to actually communicate and explain your question in the future instead of leaving me to guess and interpret what you might be trying to say. With that said, I'll give it a shot.
- MOS:TITLECAPS does not apply to redirects, it applies to the name of articles
- Alternative capitalizations are not WP:CSD R3 eligible, as they are not considered unlikely enough typos to be speedy deleted
- Given that the page existed for 18 years at the previous title, and the redirect itself was moved to create a new redirect (and transfer the categories), it does not appear to have been obviously created in error, making the G6 rationale not appropriate either
- You are welcome to send them to WP:RFD, but it is my expectation that they would be kept as plausible miscapitalizations.
- I hope I have addressed your comment appropriately. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:25, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
does not apply to redirects
- Where does it say that?
R3
: Irrelevant. We're talking about WP:CSD § G6, specifically about {{db-error}}:a page that was obviously created in error
Paradoctor (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)- @Paradoctor: It repeatedly states in that section that that MOS is applied to article titles. Redirect titles are not article titles.
- I addressed the point regarding the G6 as well. It's not necessarily obviously created in error, and I mentioned that the redirect existed since 2007 (the 18 years point I made). I see those types of redirects created all the time actually. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect titles are not article titles
I see nowhere stated that it does not apply to redirects. But whatever, see below.addressed the point regarding the G6 as well
Sure. After I had already started formulating my reply. We should have an alert or locking mechanism for this kind of situation.the 18 years
Was not visible to me. All I was shown was a new user moving a bunch of pages from "Episode)" to "episode)". 🤷I see those types of redirects created all the time
Is there a way to search for them? The search box doesn't distinguish between "Episode)" and "episode)". Paradoctor (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2025 (UTC)- A redirect is not an article @Paradoctor. You're welcome to try to nominate the redirects for deletion, but based on my experience at WP:RFD, capitalization differences in disambiguations end up being kept.
addressed the point regarding the G6 as well Sure. After I had already started formulating my reply. We should have an alert or locking mechanism for this kind of situation.
– I amended my reply a minute after based on the edit history. You then replied 15 minutes after my edit. People are allowed to tweak messages to address a point they meant to include but originally missed. Like I said, it was not at all clear what you were asking, and upon review, I realized you had CSD G6 tagged the page, which is why the point was added.the 18 years Was not visible to me. All I was shown was a new user moving a bunch of pages from "Episode)" to "episode)". 🤷
– That's why checking the target and seeing the history is important. Speaking of which, upon review, it appears it actually wasn't 18 years, as I was looking at the oldest edit. It was actually since April 2019 when it was moved to the capitalized title.I see those types of redirects created all the time Is there a way to search for them? The search box doesn't distinguish between "Episode)" and "episode)"
– It does on mobile I believe, but I happen to have a quarry query that was last ran a couple of weeks ago. As an example, some episode disambiguations that use capitalized "Episode" in the disambiguatiom would be "(TMNT_2003 Episode)", which is part of 96 redirects, and "(Charmed Episode)", which is part of 176 redirects. I also commented on an RfD recently highlighting some differences in capitalizations in redirects, which included the following:- (Album) – 1,602
- (TV Series) – 1,353
- (Film) – 722
- (Song) – 711
- (Band) – 661
- (Number) – 360
- (Musician) – 326
- (Novel) – 323
- (Politician) – 303
- (Singer) – 285
- (Actor) – 282
- (Book) – 255
- A relevant RfD regarding "(Disambiguation)" was also recently closed, found here. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
New GT
[edit]Hello, I have nominated Kanye West's third studio album Graduation for GT status if you would care to comment? K. Peake 08:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Vuosaari railway
[edit]Why did you draft my page? It has two sources, both of which mention everything in the article, it has enough information for such a average not very special railway. toaster (talk) 16:51, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- And for the Sv1, explain to me why? It has the same sources as the Finnish page! toaster (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- References to information that shows something simply exists isn't enough to establish notability @CybersparkTheProtogen, it must meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. At the time of me draftifying these articles they did not. WP:NRAIL would be a good place for you to start to read more about this. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Notability guidelines" Those just talk about "source being reliable" if you would do a bit of googling in Finnish railway forums you can easily find information to support my sources? If i have to put every source i find on internet a larger page will be too long. toaster (talk) 17:45, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CybersparkTheProtogen: Finnish railway forums are not considered reliable sources, as they'd be considered user generated content. Sources also don't need to be strictly on the internet, for example, plenty of references included on various article are to books. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- A part of the railway forums is a railway newspaper called Resiina or Resina which is reliable, and if enough people in the forums say one thing like: This tunnel is a tunnel, anyways here is image of cool long tunnel, then you can say that this is a reliable thing that this tunnel exists if this, the newspaper, and a news article exists, i think you can say the tunnel and railway exists. toaster (talk) 17:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CybersparkTheProtogen: Simply existing does not make them notable enough for a Wikipedia article and forums themselves will not be treated as reliable, based on the previous mention of it being user generated content. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- The newspaper is not user generated content, instead it is made by railway museums across finland together, that has been making newspapers since the 1990s. toaster (talk) 18:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CybersparkTheProtogen: Simply existing does not make them notable enough for a Wikipedia article and forums themselves will not be treated as reliable, based on the previous mention of it being user generated content. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- A part of the railway forums is a railway newspaper called Resiina or Resina which is reliable, and if enough people in the forums say one thing like: This tunnel is a tunnel, anyways here is image of cool long tunnel, then you can say that this is a reliable thing that this tunnel exists if this, the newspaper, and a news article exists, i think you can say the tunnel and railway exists. toaster (talk) 17:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CybersparkTheProtogen: Finnish railway forums are not considered reliable sources, as they'd be considered user generated content. Sources also don't need to be strictly on the internet, for example, plenty of references included on various article are to books. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Notability guidelines" Those just talk about "source being reliable" if you would do a bit of googling in Finnish railway forums you can easily find information to support my sources? If i have to put every source i find on internet a larger page will be too long. toaster (talk) 17:45, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- References to information that shows something simply exists isn't enough to establish notability @CybersparkTheProtogen, it must meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. At the time of me draftifying these articles they did not. WP:NRAIL would be a good place for you to start to read more about this. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Future material
[edit]Some time ago WP:FUTUREALBUMS was updated. Back then it stated that "n article about a near-future but not yet released album qualifies for inclusion if critical information about that album has been confirmed in reliable sources. This must include the title, cover image, release date, track listing, and other critical information as required in an album article. A separate article should not be created until such information is available and confirmed by the musician and/or their record label, and reported upon by reliable sources.
" Now it's a little accommodating. However, Upcoming Drake/PartyNextDoor album doesn't even have a title, no release date was announced, no cover art. My question is how did it manage to stay up for this long? dxneo (talk) 22:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blech... This is probably one of those situations where there's so many sources for it that people don't really have the stomach to delete it at AfD. I agree with your concerns, it's frustrating at times when you stumble upon this sort of thing in the NPP qeue. Also, sorry for the late response @Dxneo, I missed a few comments on my talk page. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:56, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Julio Jones
[edit]Fun fact: I saw Julio Jones live in person at a casino not insanely far from Atlanta. He was playing low limit stakes not far from us peasants. Man of the people maybe lol. Red Director (talk) 23:17, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ooo that is a fun fact @Red Director! He always seemed like a pretty chill/humble guy off the field, so it's always nice to hear others have that impression as well. For what it's worth... I'd still fight tooth and nail to say Calvin Johnson was the best receiving of the 2010s, but that's my bias and recognition for a top 3 WR coming through!!! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
TTT
[edit]I see you've been pretty active on AfCR, and perhaps this is premature, but this revision raises the usual red flags... – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 19:40, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- The redirects requested by TTT24 are comics (think DC, Marvel etc.) related. The children's cartoon redirect requests from Chilean IPs is a different LTA sockmaster altogether. I've blocked them now.-- Ponyobons mots 19:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! I likely got them confused in the past and have now become one-and-the-same in my mind. – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 19:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your vigilance @Macaddct1984, and thank you @Ponyo for clearing this up! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks! I likely got them confused in the past and have now become one-and-the-same in my mind. – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 19:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
AfC question
[edit]Hey Josh, I was wondering if you could re-check my page? It's Erica Gordon, and one of the more recent ones. Thanks Noah20112910 (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Noah20112910, I missed this message as it was added to a different discussion. I'm sorry, but I do not provide reviews at AfC upon request. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Pro Football Reference
[edit]I believe our disagreement is more significant to you than I first thought. My apologies. I hope we can work it out quickly. - Hipal (talk) 23:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- The first step would be to not remove feedback from your talk page without response. However I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of a number of our policies, guidelines, and explanatory essays based on our further discussion and your tendency to throw a link out at the wrong time and places. I oppose kneejerk changes that make the article work, especially considering it's linked from almost every NFL player, coach, and executive. It's not helpful to edit war over text that has been in the article for over 11 years, but that's a matter for the discussion. As mentioned at the talk page, I ask that you discuss any further changes you make to the page, given that you've misunderstood when using a primary source is appropriate and removed relevant references (calling it linkspam) after this discussion was started. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- I responded here. Sorry that I didn't make that clearer.
- We disagree on policies. Your dismissals of my opinions are unhelpful.
- It takes two to edit-war.
- Sorry I didn't start the talk page discussions immediately. I'm genuinely surprised that there's any disagreement at all on any of the matters.
- I hope the third opinion will make it easier from this point. --Hipal (talk) 18:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
RFD relisting at
[edit]To reply to your post at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_20#South_Korea_women's_national_kho_kho_team (ping failed to send since it was unsigned), all pages deleted at RFD need to be tagged and properly bundled to give interested parties a chance to participate and it's hit or miss if people will actually do follow-up nominations of redirects discussed, but not properly bundled. When the other discussed redirects are clearly very similar to the one in question, the RFD hasn't been relisted since they were brought up, and there isn't something more that would push for immediate deletion (e.g. BLP issues) there's no harm in relisting it and encouraging bundling. In this case, it wouldn't have mattered since you intended to make a future batch nomination, but obviously I wouldn't have known that. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:36, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ah dang, I failed to sign the discussion, no wonder I never got a reply. Fair enough, more than one way to approach things, and I understand where yours is coming from. I personally don't like to add to a nom that far in, but I understand your goal and I respect it. Thanks for the response @Patar knight! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
RMs and Autopatrolled
[edit]Hey Josh -- just wondering if I applied for autopatrolled at WP:RFPERM if you'd support it... seeing as how you just had to patrol a non-insignificant number of RM related redirects. Technically only "created" 21 non-redirect pages. TiggerJay (talk) 16:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Tiggerjay, redirects are not part of what's considered for autopatrolled user rights. In fact, we actually have a pseudo-right which we refer to as redirect autopatrolled that we use for people who create a lot of redirects but don't currently qualify for autopatrolled. A bot goes through the lost of people and marks redirects created by them as reviewed. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
Promotion of List of Dallas Cowboys seasons
[edit]YES!
[edit]WAYYYYYY TO GO, JOSH!! All the best, John. - Bringingthewood (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 01:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
- You got it! Keep up the excellent work. John. - Bringingthewood (talk) 01:52, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
Question
[edit]Do you know where I can make a discussion review for an article that got redirected from an AFD? MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 00:41, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- @MoviesandTelevisionFan: I see that the version that was redirected at AfD is fairly different than the one that was redirected based on that old AfD. My opinion is that if a G4 wouldn't apply in a situation, you'd be fine to ask the editor(s) to start a new AfD. In this case, I went ahead and reverted the redirect for you. But, typically, it'd be best to highlight that the page is significantly different than the one at AfD to the editor (Diannaa) who did the redirecting. However, now that I'm writing this out, it's not as significantly different as I initially thought... so perhaps work on flushing it out a bit more. I'm not sure it'd survive at AfD in all honesty, but I think it's worth a discussion at least based on the way the article has been improved. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hm, you know, on reflection, I may have been in the wrong reverting @Diannaa here. The text is fairly close to that that was redirected, but it's formatted differently. The primary different is that there's more references now but the rationale at that discussion may still apply, in that, there's concerns they're basically only notable for that film. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Chiming in since I initially marked the article as reviewed when I saw it in the new pages queue. I think it is fair to keep the article in mainspace for now – Eastman was still alive at the time of the initial AfD, and there have been many obituaries published that could count towards notability (including several that aren't in the article like [10][11][12]). Since more than one editor has attempted to restore the article since the initial discussion, I think it would be best to start another AfD if there are notability concerns. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hm, you know, on reflection, I may have been in the wrong reverting @Diannaa here. The text is fairly close to that that was redirected, but it's formatted differently. The primary different is that there's more references now but the rationale at that discussion may still apply, in that, there's concerns they're basically only notable for that film. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Promotion of 1960 Winter Olympics medal table
[edit]Cleveland Browns History
[edit]love your work - but i wonder if some notation should be included to describe in the 90's that the "old" cleveland browns became the current Baltimore Ravens and that explains the 4 year gap when Nobody represented the city of Cleveland in the NFL - and the "new" Cleveland Browns essentially became an expansion team when their new team was created at the end of the 90's - glad cleveland fought to retain the naming rights for their teamm - wish the city of Baltimore at done the same with the "Colts" - I am 65 and still have trouble identifying with the Colts and Indianapolis - and I have long given up on identifying where the Raiders call Home - in my mind they will always be the Oakland Raiders Auburn1159 (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @Auburn1159! I actually do intend that to add something to List of Cleveland Browns seasons about this, and that's what's been holding it up for me from nominating it for featured status. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:09, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Deletion
[edit]Please delete this page.
Thank you, Diegg24 (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Diegg24: You can add the "{{Db-g7}}" template to the page to request deletion of a page that you've the primary/sole author of. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:34, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
MAHA
[edit]Hi. I'm new to this page review thing so advise very welcome. I'm looking at this article and thinking a/ The content is minimal to say the least. b/ It seems unlikely that anyone is going to want to (or possibly be able to) improve it after all this time. What would you do as a reviewer? What would your thinking be? Thanks. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 19:10, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Lukewarmbeer: I suspect you may have meant to link MAHA based on the CSD tag of yours that I recently declined ({{speedy deletion-no content}} is not appropriate for dab pages). Disambiguation pages may disambiguate two entries, and that's perfectly fine. They're simply meant to be a sort of directory for possibly ambiguous terms. If I find a dab page that disambiguates only two or three entries, I typically mark is as reviewed, so long as the disambiguation makes sense. With that said, your link there (to Maha) actually shows that MAHA may be unnecessarily duplicating a portion of the information. I think you'd be fine to redirect the capitalized version, so long as you make sure to include Hockey Manitoba, which is missing, at the target dab page. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:14, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Lovely. I'll have another go :O) Lukewarmbeer (talk) 19:28, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
And another one!
[edit]Keep knocking them out, Josh! All the best, John. - Bringingthewood (talk) 00:32, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Bringingthewood: Hell yeah John, that's the plan, to keep knocking them out. Every ten days on average, best case scenario. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- If that's the case, you better start a new talk page! I take off one night and another one appeared. I should give you my cell number so you can warn me first, lol. Great job! Regards, John. - Bringingthewood (talk) 00:48, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
YGM
[edit]Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:01, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Blocking spam?
[edit]Thank you! Bearian (talk) 03:11, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bearian, I feel like I'm missing some context here. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:38, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Don't worry. Just accept my thanks for your work. Bearian (talk) 13:50, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Lol alright, fair enough, thanks for your thanks =P Hey man im josh (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Don't worry. Just accept my thanks for your work. Bearian (talk) 13:50, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2025
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).
- Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
- A '
Recreated
' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145
- The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.
About your revert
[edit]Hello. I saw that you reverted some edits on Only on Earth because of COI concerns. However, the version you reverted to is clearly promotional and unencyclopaedic. I cannot revert right now because I am on a smartphone, but are you able to go back and find an appropriate revision to revert to? The text before the revert, while not entirely NPOV, was more neutral than the current text. QwertyForest (talk) 13:33, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- @QwertyForest: I think it has some puffery language, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying it's clearly unencyclopedic. I actually think the version I reverted away from was more promotional and that the version I reverted to includes less puffery. I do think the revert is an improvement on the state of the article, but I also recognize the article can definitely be improved upon. Pinging Rickyurs, the article's creator, regarding this. Also noting it could use a few more sources for various parts of the article. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:42, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
January 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award
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The Order of the Superior Scribe of Wikipedia | |
This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 500 points during the January 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions helped play a part in the 16,000+ articles and 14,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 19,791.2 points) completed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC) |
January 2025 NPP backlog drive – Streak award
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Unnecessarily complicated Gears Award | |
This award is given in recognition to Hey man im josh for accumulating at least 150 points during each week of the January 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 16,000+ articles and 14,000+ redirects reviewed (for a total of 19,791.2 points) during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog!– DreamRimmer (talk) 01:45, 7 February 2025 (UTC) |
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- Arbitration report: Palestine-Israel articles 5 has closed
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WikiBullying?
[edit]Hello Josh, Please do not attempt to wiki bully me with threats. Thanks. LgShai (talk) 08:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- I see that you're a new admin. Two more experienced admins didn't threaten me. Please do not abuse your new admin powers to threaten or passively wiki bully wiki users. Thanks. LgShai (talk) 08:42, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- @LgShai: I'd certainly not call myself new to being an admin after being one for 16 months. I'm not seeing any admins aside from Liz and myself on your talk page. Additionally, Liz did say you'd be blocked, that's what "loss of editing privileges" means.
- Let me be extremely clear. As mentioned elsewhere, if you continue to harass others with entirely inappropriate personal attacks, I will not hesitate to block you. This is meant to protect Wikipedia and its editors.
- I'm sorry you feel that you're allowed to harass and insult others without consequences, but I do not feel that way. There will be consequences if your behaviour does not improve, as you've been told by multiple admins. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting some diffs for my future reference:
- The reason I didn't go ahead and give you a short-term block was because, on your talk page, you promised to use Wikipedia "correctly" in the future after Vanderwaalforces reminded you that there's a person on the other side of the screen that you're insulting. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Tells editors they're morons and brainless fools and then complains about feeling bullied? The chutzpah is strong in this one... Serial (speculates here) 14:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- You must be mad lol. Falsely accusing me of editing pages, then searching other places to attack me. LgShai (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- @LgShai: Do not get into fights on my talk page or try to antagonize others. The only one mad here seems to be you, and entirely unnecessarily so. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:44, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- You must be mad lol. Falsely accusing me of editing pages, then searching other places to attack me. LgShai (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Tells editors they're morons and brainless fools and then complains about feeling bullied? The chutzpah is strong in this one... Serial (speculates here) 14:39, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
My understanding is that a player isn't inducted into the HoF until the induction ceremony. Re this edit, isn't it technically premature? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:32, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oh gosh, you just reminded me that we (NFL editors) had a similar discussion last year in which I think we basically decided to reflect the announced results? I can't say for sure though. By all means, you're welcome to revert it @Gonzo fan2007. I think he's TECHNICALLY in the hall of fame already, based on the web page, and based on this, but that the enshrinement doesn't take place until August 2nd based on that second link. The second link also says
The Hall of Fame’s membership, including the newly elected class, now stands at 382.
, which leads me to believe they consider them hall of famers. The time between them being announced and the ceremony is annoying because of the ambiguity of it all. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:41, 7 February 2025 (UTC)- Makes sense to me. Thanks for the clarification. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:06, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of What Happens Next (webcomic)
[edit]Hi, I'm Sparkle & Fade, and I recently saw that you accepted a speedy deletion request for What Happens Next (webcomic) under criteria A7, but I believe that this was mistaken and I would kindly like to request undeletion. In the "Reception" section, (I believe) it makes a credible claim of significance, stating "[The comic] has accrued over 1 million views", which is sourced to the comic's webpage where it does indeed verify the view count on the statistics section (not sure if it counts as primary or selfpub), and also brings up multiple notable publications/people who received it positively. (I would have taken the tag off to contest it, but I was unavailable at the time.) I would have taken this to WP:DELREV, but WP:DELREVD says: Consider attempting to discuss the matter with the closer as this could resolve the matter more quickly. There could have been a mistake, miscommunication, or misunderstanding, and a full review may not be needed.
I'd like to know your opinion on it, though. Thanks. —Sparkle and Fade (talk • contributions) 23:58, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Sparkle & Fade: Sorry for the delay, I don't typically edit on weekends. As for the reception section, I don't typically view hit counters, which are notoriously inaccurate, as a valid/significant claim towards notability. The other references include a YouTube video and an interview that doesn't even mention the comic.
- Frankly I don't think this will survive at AfD if sent there. Never the less, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, restoring, and moving to draft space at Draft:What Happens Next (webcomic). Hey man im josh (talk) 15:49, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll be working on the draft there so it can hopefully be brought back to mainspace. Again, thanks for your help. —Sparkle and Fade (talk • contributions) 22:07, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Josh, Maxquayle1997 (talk) 23:43, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- ^thanks for reconsidering the deletion! I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt. Sparkle & Fade has already added some great secondary sources to the draft, I'm looking forward to getting back to editing in the morning.
- Just to clear up any confusion, the interview I was referring to does mention the comic; specifically, the title of the first chapter, Dog Names. Hope this makes things clearer!
- All the best,
- Max Maxquayle1997 (talk) 23:50, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, chapter name makes more sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:29, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
The redirect The Most Expensive City In The World For Expats has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 8 § The Most Expensive City In The World For Expats until a consensus is reached. | Looks like it's an outdated redirect, but can be fixed real quick to direct to a more updated page! Lukeh486 (talk) 01:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Virginia Halas McCaskey
[edit]On 8 February 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Virginia Halas McCaskey, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. charlotte 👸♥ 07:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Wow, Josh working on something that isn't a list? charlotte 👸♥ 07:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- See @Queen of Hearts??? I can do other stuff! I expect I may get another ITN recognition soon as well for Dick Jauron! Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Article idea
[edit]Hi, since you are a very prolific NFL editor and as an administrator, would it be possible without violating wp:NPOV to discuss the bogus conspiracy theory that the NFL rigs games to favor Kansas City? I’ve heard it for a few years and it’s gotten some press coverage. I am concerned about potential violations of WP:NOTNEWS. Thanks! -1ctinus📝🗨 16:46, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- @1ctinus: I actually discouraged someone about creating an article on the subject. Fact of the matter is, reffing in of itself is subjective, and there's so many places errors can be made. There's also the aspect that certain players know how to play the game and get more flags, Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes being two examples of it. I don't like it, but that's exactly how it is. Additionally, one thing a lot of people don't consider, is that good coaching staffs can pick up on ways that players often foul and give the refs a heads up mid or pre-game, as something to look out for. This is entirely appropriate and normal, and it's something that happens pretty much every game. I have very strong feelings about the fact that people seriously overestimate and overstate how NFL games are rigged. As mentioned, some people just know how to draw flags and get favorable calls, and if the Chiefs were to be explored in that regard, I'd urge folks to look at the 2010s Packers, they got so many phantom calls from my (Lions) perspective that it certainly felt that way. As I've grown and learned to understand the game more, I've found that a lot of people throwing fits about the flags often don't understand that some folks are actually calling flags to the letter of the rule, and that the refs are human and just miss things.
- That's also a big reason why we need more technology in the game so that things like first downs and ball placement aren't just being guessed at by eye sight. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Tangent-peacockery, maybe???
[edit]Hey josh, quick question since I don't know who else to ask and I just saw you reviewed Drf (thx):
The bad editing practice of starting to talk about some tangent that's only somewhat related to, and itself not even the subject of the article, what is that called? It's at the tip of my tongue, but I can't remember what the term for that here was. It goes something like this:
- Fnord is an oncologist. His second cousin twice removed Fnorberg once composed a symphony that premiered at the Royal Albert, where it was very well received [and here are some citations].
Do you know what I'm talking about? I swear I read something about this sort of thing somewhere here, maybe an essay – and maybe there's even a Template: or something, but I can't recall the actual details. Thanks for your attention. ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here for unrelated reasons - I think you want WP:HATSTAND (unfortunately I have recently become very well acquainted with this essay) Rusalkii (talk) 22:18, 8 February 2025 (UTC)
- THANK YOU! Yes! That is what I was looking for. ReadOnlyAccount (talk) 09:21, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Nomination of 2026 Indian Premier League for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 Indian Premier League until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Vestrian24Bio 10:52, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio: Strange, the only time I edited that article was to nominate it for deletion at WP:RFD. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- The page creator is indefinitely blocked. But, I don't see why Twinkle sent the notice to you. Vestrian24Bio 11:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Vestrian24Bio: I think I actually figured out why. This is an assumption, but I think Twinkle may be recognizing me as the first person to convert the redirect to what it perceives as an article. I think this may be the case, as when redirects tagged with the RfD template are marked as reviewed, they're incorrectly counted as article reviews until the template is removed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- The page creator is indefinitely blocked. But, I don't see why Twinkle sent the notice to you. Vestrian24Bio 11:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Just a note on the above, when I changed the table format and add the Career accomplishments section, I was really thinking that the "Awards" column would be true awards, those handed out to players/coaches at the end of the season (i.e. List of Green Bay Packers award winners type of stuff). The reasoning was that these type of things are what are considered for enshrinement, whereas for most of these, the anniversary team recognition came much later after enshrinement. Not saying you have to remove them or anything, just wanted to note what my intention was. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:09, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
- I think your point regarding the anniversary teams is solid for some candidates, but I also think it's a significant accolade that does help for enshrinement in a number of cases now. The article is in decent shape for now, but I'll definitely give it some thought prior to moving forward with a nomination of it some day. Thanks for the feedback @Gonzo fan2007, always appreciated! Hey man im josh (talk) 16:14, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
There are two basic agreed rules in this project which affect your recent edit in the above. 1) only simple cites are used, to reduce coding clutter by the end of the month; and 2) only three total credits are allowed per line - you can choose which three but there need to be only three. If in any doubt, you can bring it up on the talk page. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 14:42, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Why did you delete the article of the Najd revolution
[edit]It's really a revolution and it's in a lot of books and it's not on Wikipedia, and I put it and put a few sources with it, why delete it?' Please bring her back. Well, I'm so tired for her Abdalluh23 (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Abdalluh23: I did not delete the article, it exists at Draft:Najd Revolution. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:47, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Dick Jauron
[edit]On 12 February 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Dick Jauron, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 12:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
RD2
[edit]Hey Josh, starting with revision 1185492232 on List of NFL nicknames is a BLP violation that I removed. It's eligible for revision deletion under criterion RD2 of violates our biographies of living people policy
. I would support the use of revdel in this case, as I could not find any reliable sources that this is a notable nickname. Cheers, -1ctinus📝🗨 15:10, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @1ctinus, revdels are a weak point for me, so I asked in a chat with some admins who are more experienced than I am (three of which have oversight perms). They were on the fence about it, but there seemed to be consensus against revdeling the edit based on the information in the lead of Deshaun Watson. My understanding, based on the discussion with them, is it would be more of an issue if it were not widely discussed at the article. It's obviously vandalism and not appropriate, but not it's making an allegation or anything that's not reported already.
- I don't like the edit either for what it's worth, and I'm going based off the suggestion of more experienced folks than myself. Sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- If you want another opportunity, the vandalism on Chinese culture definitely needs to be scrubbed from the revision history. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:17, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Done. Sorry for the delay. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- If you want another opportunity, the vandalism on Chinese culture definitely needs to be scrubbed from the revision history. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:17, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Regions
[edit]Please stop moving articles to make "region" in their titles lowercase, such as Public transport in the Wellington Region to Public transport in the Wellington region. I do understand that you're just making it consistent with the article Wellington region but that page move was done by two people without any proper discussion, and a move request is now at Gisborne District to make the "District" lowercase which is facing some opposition so it might be better to wait for the outcome of that discussion before you move any more articles. ―Panamitsu (talk) 21:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: Those moves I made were based on the results of a concluded RM (which closed 15 days ago) and for consistency with the names of the main articles. It wouldn't make sense to have the main region article at "Wellington region" and then "Public transport in Wellington Region". If you disagree with the result of the RM you can start another and argue that it wasn't appropriate. Besides, moves are pretty easily reversible. If the regions are moved back to the capitalized title I'll be more than happy to help with the clean up.
- In short, I'm not the person you should have an issue with in this case. A RM discussion was held and it's been over 2 weeks. I did some follow up cleanup work that, based on the current situation, was appropriate. The cleanup of moving for consistency is also done now and didn't include very many pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that, I just assumed that you were planning on moving more as out of memory (I hadn't checked) it seemed to me that there were more articles with a capital Region.
- New news: A few (but not all) of these region articles have been moved back, such as Canterbury Region but not Wellington Region. ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:07, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: I have no intention of boldly down casing any region/district article titles, as I'm aware that those are often times proper names. I just do a fair bit of cleanup after moves, typically waiting a couple weeks to do so. With that said, I'm not sure it's appropriate to reopen a discussion 15 days after the fact @Cremastra. Personally I'd have preferred a new discussion being started instead. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Noting that I went and untagged the 326 categories I had tagged for speedy renaming. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I did see that, thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- Noting that I went and untagged the 326 categories I had tagged for speedy renaming. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: I have no intention of boldly down casing any region/district article titles, as I'm aware that those are often times proper names. I just do a fair bit of cleanup after moves, typically waiting a couple weeks to do so. With that said, I'm not sure it's appropriate to reopen a discussion 15 days after the fact @Cremastra. Personally I'd have preferred a new discussion being started instead. Hey man im josh (talk) 01:42, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 13 § Category:May 2023 sports events in Monaco
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A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 13 § Category:May 2023 sports events in Monaco on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Request
[edit]Can you clear the talk page of my former IP? 191.9.61.200 (talk) 23:49, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200: Do you remember your former IP address? If you can provide it, Hey man im josh or I can look into it. Z. Patterson (talk) 01:31, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: User talk:191.9.57.3. 191.9.61.200 (talk) 00:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200: It is not best practice to blank someone else's talk page except under special circumstances. The original talk page does not appear to meet either of the criteria listed in the deletion policy, and we should not remove declined unblock requests. Although the account is currently not blocked, it is best practice to leave them intact for historical reasons. Z. Patterson (talk) 00:49, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: Can you at least remove the Vivek hidden comment and only leave the block things? 191.9.61.200 (talk) 02:34, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200: I do not know if it would be a good idea to do so. Z. Patterson (talk) 02:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: Just do it, please. It's just a hidden comment. It's not like they can't revert it back if it is really wrong. 191.9.61.200 (talk) 04:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200:
Done Z. Patterson (talk) 04:22, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: Thank you! 191.9.61.200 (talk) 06:22, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200:
- @Z. Patterson: Just do it, please. It's just a hidden comment. It's not like they can't revert it back if it is really wrong. 191.9.61.200 (talk) 04:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200: I do not know if it would be a good idea to do so. Z. Patterson (talk) 02:38, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: Can you at least remove the Vivek hidden comment and only leave the block things? 191.9.61.200 (talk) 02:34, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @191.9.61.200: It is not best practice to blank someone else's talk page except under special circumstances. The original talk page does not appear to meet either of the criteria listed in the deletion policy, and we should not remove declined unblock requests. Although the account is currently not blocked, it is best practice to leave them intact for historical reasons. Z. Patterson (talk) 00:49, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Z. Patterson: User talk:191.9.57.3. 191.9.61.200 (talk) 00:18, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
Barnstar
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
Thank you Nabulowa (talk) 10:55, 17 February 2025 (UTC) |
- Thanks so much @Nabulowa! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
"2025–26 College Football Playoff" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect 2025–26 College Football Playoff has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 20 § 2025–26 College Football Playoff until a consensus is reached. CycloneYoris talk! 07:11, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
"Award" as part of proper name?
[edit]Wondering what you're thinking. See search. Dicklyon (talk) 23:44, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
This is about AP NFL Coach of the Year Award and AP NFL Assistant Coach of the Year Award. You prefer to see Award capped on those? Or just want to have a discussion? How come? Dicklyon (talk) 08:44, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Maybe you like it better as AP NFL Assistant Coach of the Year? That was suggested on my talk page. Join us there if you prefer. Dicklyon (talk) 07:12, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Promotion of 1980 Summer Olympics medal table
[edit]Great work!
[edit]Congrats on yet another one, Josh! See you soon. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
P.S. Another congrats .. on your '4 Nations' win. (Painful, but I had to do it!) ;) Bringingthewood (talk) 05:07, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- GO CANADA!!! And thanks John. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Lol, you got it! Regards. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase III/Administrator elections.
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Review: Copernic Space
[edit]Hi I saw you reviewed the page which was nominated for deletion. I'm still not sure what it means. Thanks Twicebefore (talk) 17:55, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Twicebefore: It's just standard practice to mark pages nominated for deletion as reviewed. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- For a second it wasn't clear what it meant. The subject of the article is well covered from the secondary sources cited. Though the nomination is still open right.? Twicebefore (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay in responding, I don't typically edit on the weekends @Twicebefore. Yes, marking as reviewed does not mean the nomination has been closed. It is, in fact, still ongoing. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- For a second it wasn't clear what it meant. The subject of the article is well covered from the secondary sources cited. Though the nomination is still open right.? Twicebefore (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Hello! I responded to your comments on this FLC on February 11th. Have you had a chance to re-examine it yet? Thank you so much for your time! Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:56, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Bgsu98, I don't have any further commments. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:47, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Is it a Support then? Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Noting that I replied on the FLC. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Is it a Support then? Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
We would like to resubmit Draft article for Dr. Steve R.S. Curtis
[edit]We've revised the article and believe we've addressed the redirect issue(s). We also entered the publication ISBNs manually (instead of using the template) to ensure they don’t link to the Wiki page.
Could you kindly let us know if the issue(s) have been resolved or if there are any remaining concerns? We appreciate and welcome your help.
Best wishes.
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Abdel Kader Coulibaly
[edit]Hey, any chance you can redraft of restore Abdel Kader Coulibaly? The page passes GNG, despite being made by a blocked user.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry @Ortizesp, I do not intend to restore the page, as the original creator is an LTA. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:53, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Question
[edit]@Hey man im josh I just wanted to know your thought on Page Cornitos which you have reviewed. Atulkumar.1990 (talk) 18:41, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Atulkumar.1990: I do not have any thoughts on the page. Any page nominated for deletion at WP:AFD is marked as reviewed as a matter of procedure. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:47, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Electoral district of Oakford
[edit]Can the deletion be undone for this page? It says it was deleted under G5, however this page will assist citizens understanding their district in the Western Australian state election following the boundary changes that commenced this year. Pages for affected suburbs of Wandi and Aubin Grove require updating from the electoral district of Kwinana to that of Oakford, these will be linking to this non-existent page. Lewisnet (talk) 02:41, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry @Lewisnet, but we do not undelete pages deleted under the G5 criteria. You are not restricted from creating the article, but I will not be restoring it. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Request
[edit]Hello Josh, I'm bringing this request here as I could see you deal with other such requests. Would it be possible for you restore my user-rights? I surrendered them a few months ago (at Special:PermaLink/1229904442#Permissions) but I am still interested in doing antivandalism work and patrolling here so it would be helpful. Cheers. Svartava (talk) 14:13, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Svartava: Please go through WP:PERM to make the request. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:15, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Lynne Marie Stewart
[edit]On 26 February 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Lynne Marie Stewart, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. charlotte 👸♥ 21:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Promotion of 1952 Summer Olympics medal table
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WikiCup 2025 March newsletter
[edit]The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.
Round 1 was very competitive compared with previous years; two contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 500 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:
Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1,168 round points, mainly from 4 featured articles and 4 good articles on old military history, in addition to an assortment of GA and FA reviews.
Generalissima (submissions) with 1,095 round points, mainly from 2 FAs, 2 featured lists, 8 GAs, and 16 Did You Know articles mainly on historical topics.
BeanieFan11 (submissions), with 866 round points from 20 GAs, 23 DYKs, and 2 In the News articles primarily about athletes.
Sammi Brie (submissions), with 846 round points from 16 GAs about radio and TV stations, 45 GA reviews, and 3 DYKs.
Hey man im josh (submissions), with 816 round points from 5 FLs about sports and Olympic topics, 46 FL reviews, 3 ITN articles, and a large number of bonus points.
MaranoFan (submissions), with 815 round points primarily from 3 FAs and 1 GA about music, in addition to 9 article reviews.
The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.
Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2, which begins on 1 March. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
You're too much!
[edit]Congrats, Josh. Keep getting those promotions for articles before I was even born! Thanks for that .. 1960 .. now 1952!! Fantastic, I'm finally younger than something. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 00:59, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Bringingthewood. Progress for the medal tables that Arconning and I have been working on (and others before us of course) can be seen here. All of the Winter medal tables are prepped and ready for nomination or already nominated. 1912, 1960, and 1972 are ready for Summer as well, with 1932 already being nominated. That leaves us with 5 remaining Summer lists to work on; 1900, 1904, 1920, 1928, and 2024 (2024 is basically ready, but has too heavy of a US bias, and there will need to be a talk page discussion about changes before I'm willing to nominate it). Hey man im josh (talk) 13:32, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- I do like those old ones ... you are the man!! You set out to do things .. and you got them done. That means a lot in my little book that I keep here, lol. You'll never have a problem with me, Josh, that's a promise. All the best, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Josh, you may want to chime in on this. My talk page is going off the rails because of US or U.S. You were one of the seven I can name that added U.S to players at the time. Am I wrong? John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Bringingthewood: I see you've got Bagumba chiming in and I think they may know more than I do on this matter. I don't recall ever being involved in such a discussion, sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:20, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- No, no .. I didn't mean you getting involved literally, I think that when you did add a few ... U.S. and not US in the past, you had a preference. That's all I meant. In case I had to call on someone to back us up. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ah gotcha. To be honest I really don't recall, I'm sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:17, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, maybe you added one, but it was U.S., lol. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ah gotcha. To be honest I really don't recall, I'm sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:17, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, no .. I didn't mean you getting involved literally, I think that when you did add a few ... U.S. and not US in the past, you had a preference. That's all I meant. In case I had to call on someone to back us up. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:07, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Bringingthewood: I see you've got Bagumba chiming in and I think they may know more than I do on this matter. I don't recall ever being involved in such a discussion, sorry. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:20, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Josh, you may want to chime in on this. My talk page is going off the rails because of US or U.S. You were one of the seven I can name that added U.S to players at the time. Am I wrong? John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:48, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- I do like those old ones ... you are the man!! You set out to do things .. and you got them done. That means a lot in my little book that I keep here, lol. You'll never have a problem with me, Josh, that's a promise. All the best, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
FAC comments inquiry
[edit]Hi Josh, I hope you are well! I was lurking through some music FACs and I wonder if you could provide some comments for my current FAC, on the Taylor Swift song Forever & Always? Thank you very much in advance, and no hard feelings if you are unable to :) Ippantekina (talk) 03:26, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Ippantekina: I am looking for more to review for the WikiCup, hence my recent foray into FAC. I might give it a go, but no promises. I normally do source reviews at FLC but I'm not comfortable with that at FAC just yet, as I understand they are a bit more strict than we are at FLC. As such, my efforts have been reviewing source formatting for consistency. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:21, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- Feel free to remind me if you don't have a review by Tuesday. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Reference capitalization
[edit]I'm pretty sure "don't change reference capitalization" is not among the normal options we use for titles of referenced works. We're supposed to follow a consistent style for referencing within an article, and the styles I can find use either title case or sentence case for titles. I'm not aware of a style that says copy the styling from the source, or that says to capitalize every word including "of", "the", and "by". So consider re-fixing that where you reverted me, or working toward a more consistent style more generally. Dicklyon (talk) 20:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: I will not be reverting, as that would make the article worse and I certainly wouldn't want to do that, especially on a featured list.
- Why would it be appropriate to editorialize a title? The consistent style IS to stick to what the reference uses unless it's entirely capitalized, in which case it's acceptable to switch to title case. I can tell you that as someone that does source reviews at WP:FLC, and who's had dozens of source reviews performed on his work, this has never once come up or been suggested. I read a lot of source reviews done by others as well to improve my work in performing source reviews, and nothing in those has ever suggested this either.
- Find me anything that says we're meant to editorialize a title. Until then, you're implementing something because you like it, not because it's appropriate. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think of style as editorializing, but I've started this discussion you should join: WT:Citing sources#Capitalization styles of work titles. Dicklyon (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- At Wikipedia:Featured list candidates, several different editors are saying that source title capitalization should be consistent with each other, not with the various sources (I searched for "capital"). I guess you missed that. Dicklyon (talk) 23:51, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: Where is this conversation at FLC? As mentioned, I do a lot of reviews there and when I'm promoting articles from candidate to FL status this isn't something I check for. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not conversations exactly, but these recent review comments: [13], [14]. Dicklyon (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Two comments does not dictate a norm. It's an unreasonable ask for nominators to constantly editorialize titles from my perspective. Frankly if they became a requirement I'd be tempted to stop promoting content altogether simply due to the ridiculousness and the lack of improvement such a requirement would be. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:06, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm obviously not claiming that these comments make the norm; just pointing out that it has come up there, from multiple editors. And I'm not saying it's a blocker for promotion, just that if someone fixes things like this in the direction of conformance to guidelines, you might not want to revert them. Dicklyon (talk) 22:59, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Two comments does not dictate a norm. It's an unreasonable ask for nominators to constantly editorialize titles from my perspective. Frankly if they became a requirement I'd be tempted to stop promoting content altogether simply due to the ridiculousness and the lack of improvement such a requirement would be. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:06, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not conversations exactly, but these recent review comments: [13], [14]. Dicklyon (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Dicklyon: Where is this conversation at FLC? As mentioned, I do a lot of reviews there and when I'm promoting articles from candidate to FL status this isn't something I check for. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)