Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of governors of Delta State/archive1
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List of governors of Delta State (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the list of governors of Nigeria's state of Delta from when the region was called Mid-Western renamed to Bendel and then splitted into Edo and Delta, this is focusing on Delta. I have significantly worked on this and it now meets the criteria for FL. This list looks very similar to the list of governors of Edo State since they're of the same origin. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Just from a cursory glance, the last table features a column under "Party" which has nothing but cells with different colored backgrounds. I know this is in violation of MOS:ACCESS and will have to either be removed or otherwise represented. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:32, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98 Thanks for your observation. I think you need to be specific as to how that violates ACCESS seeing that this passed without that issue. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I saw that after I posted. I'm not sure how that previous article passed with cells that contain colored background and nothing else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:53, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98 the colours represents that political party, I also saw that in similar FLs. Also, a legend would be unnecessary since we already clearly mentioned that the colours are for the parties under the Party column. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps User:PresN can address this. It was my understanding that we couldn't have empty cells with nothing but a colored background on tables. How do screen-readers interpret those cells? Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no text, so they skip over it and go to the next cell. The ACCESS violations that we look for with color are where the color imparts information that is not imparted by other means, but in this case the party is linked right next to it. --PresN 20:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, thank you for clarifying... That is very good to know! Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no text, so they skip over it and go to the next cell. The ACCESS violations that we look for with color are where the color imparts information that is not imparted by other means, but in this case the party is linked right next to it. --PresN 20:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps User:PresN can address this. It was my understanding that we couldn't have empty cells with nothing but a colored background on tables. How do screen-readers interpret those cells? Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98 the colours represents that political party, I also saw that in similar FLs. Also, a legend would be unnecessary since we already clearly mentioned that the colours are for the parties under the Party column. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:58, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I saw that after I posted. I'm not sure how that previous article passed with cells that contain colored background and nothing else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:53, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98 Thanks for your observation. I think you need to be specific as to how that violates ACCESS seeing that this passed without that issue. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by RunningTiger123
[edit]- Link to Nigeria should be moved to first appearance in lead
- "After independence, Nigeria had only three regions" – probably needs a citation in the lead or body
- Change Biafran War to Nigerian Civil War to match term used in body
- "Notable governors during this time period..." – why are these governors especially notable?
- "modern Delta state" – capitalize State
- End of lead implies military governors are still in charge; should probably clarify that is no longer the case
- Infobox items not supported elsewhere in the body (style, residence, term length, ...) should be cited
- Notes columns should not be sortable (sorting by their first words has no meaning)
- Cite note for Ejoor (not directly supported by prose above or implied by information elsewhere in the table), or maybe move the footnote from the term column to the notes column
- Same for Innih and Abdullahi
- Several governors do not have any references in the table; even if it's repeating information from the prose portions, I suggest including at least one citation for each governor in the table to make it easier for readers to verify information
- Notes in Bendel State table should not use periods
- "This is a list of military administrators and governors of Delta State." – remove sentence
- Deputy Governor column in Delta State table should not span multiple columns (when that column is sorted, it splits cells unexpectedly)
- Sort values and alt text look good, nice!
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:28, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @RunningTiger123 Thank you so much for your comments, I have fixed them. I am now left only with when you said I should add, at least, one citation for each governor in the table to make it easier for readers to verify information. From my view, every entries in the tables have citations, so I am not sure where to add citations. Please, tell me. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:18, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some more comments:
- I didn't strictly mean the items I listed for the infobox should be cited; I meant anything not clearly supported elsewhere should be cited. In particular, the style and type entries need citations (actually, for type, I think you should remove it, as head of state / head of government usually refers to national leaders).
- Abdullahi's note should end with a period (it's a complete sentence; the other notes in that table aren't)
- To clarify my citation comment: Most entries in the first two tables have a citation in the Name column, but Okonkwo and Yeri do not, so it looked like they were missing citations; however, I realize now that those citations are for birth/death dates and the unsourced entries do not have that information, so it's not an issue.
— RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:15, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @RunningTiger123 Thank you so much, I have addressed the above. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:08, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support – all comments addressed. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
MPGuy2824
[edit]- The flag image in the infobox is missing its alt text.
- It would be nice to have a map showing the location of delta state within Nigeria, just below the infobox.
- "After independence" - mention the year too.
- "Mid-Western State" => "Mid-Western Region"
- "who is the incumbent."
- Add a wikilink for the first usage of State of emergency.
- 2 of the refs seem to be missing archive links.
- My ref-check script says that the first two items in the "Works cited" section need to be exchanged. I'm assuming that this would be for alphabetical reasons. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:16, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 Thank you so much for your comment, I fixed them. The two refs missing archive links are the DOI which does not require an archive link; you know, adding a
|doi=
parameter in a{{cite xxxx
template will add a sort of automatic|url =
parameter which cannot be controlled directly. I am also unable to add a map to the infobox because provisions were not made for that in the metainfobox. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:04, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]- Why do refs with DOI links not require an archive link? I am not aware of this rule.
- You can add the image after the infobox (which will make it show under it). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:09, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 I do not think it is a rule; it is just a technical whatever. See for example this
{{cite journal | last1=Michael |first1=Ediagbonya | last2=Abiodun |first2=Duyile William | title=An Appraisal of the Invasion of Midwest State By the Biafran Secessionists Government and Liberation During the Period of Nigerian Civil War August 9-September 20, 1967 | journal=Britain International of Humanities and Social Sciences (BIoHS) Journal | volume=5 | issue=2 | date=2023-06-08 | issn=2685-3868 | doi=10.33258/biohs.v5i2.896 | doi-access=free | p=76}}
, there is no|url
parameter in this template, can an|archive-url
parameter be added when the former isn't present? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]- In addition to this, DOI links are usually redirect to the actual publisher site. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:23, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, you could add the url explicitly and then add the archive links, but I'll leave that for the source reviewer to judge.
- Unrelated, but please make the Deputy governor column sortable in the "Delta State" section.
- Support on text and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, done! Thank you so much, again. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- In addition to this, DOI links are usually redirect to the actual publisher site. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:23, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- I have added the map as a direct image now. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:22, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @MPGuy2824 I do not think it is a rule; it is just a technical whatever. See for example this
- @MPGuy2824 Thank you so much for your comment, I fixed them. The two refs missing archive links are the DOI which does not require an archive link; you know, adding a
- How can it be that the 2011 election in april was annulled and then a rerun was held in january? --Yilku1 (talk) 20:30, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Yilku1 Thank you for spotting that. I have fixed the main article of the by-election as I think my confusion was rooted there. I have also reflected the change on this list. Please, recheck. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:55, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]I apologize for the delay, but I did promise that I would evaluate your article!
- The prose is very good!
- I would recommend defining or explaining the differences between some of these titles, like Premier, Governor, and Administrator. Also, sometimes you have "premier" capitalized and sometimes in lower-case, and they should be uniform.
- Under the "Bendel State" heading... "reorganise Nigeria's states and local governments, under the regime of General Murtala Mohammed." You don't need a comma after "governments".
- "civilian governor under the National Party of Nigeria, and briefly served from October to December 1983" You don't need a comma after "Nigeria".
- Under the "Delta State" heading... "A new office was created for the 1999 elections, that of the deputy governor of Delta State." I would recommend "A new office was created for the 1999 elections: deputy governor of Delta State."
- On the table: I would recommend replacing the N/A by {{NA}}.
- On the table: I would recommend rewriting D. Governor on the table heading as {{Abbr|D. Governor|Deputy Governor}}.
- The tables appear to be properly formatted.
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I hope my comments are useful. Please let me know if you have any questions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:43, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Bgsu98 Hehe, thank you so much for coming back to it. I have copyedited base on your comments. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:27, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Everything looks good... I'm happy to support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
[edit]- Consistent wikilinking in sources
- Dates added where available
- Consistent date formatting
- Authors added where available
- Links are live
- Added some scopes where they were missing
- Bypassed some entries in work to match the target
- Ref 34 – Fix the title and add the authors
- Ref 52 – Wikilink Sahara Reporters
That's what I've got, ping me when you reply please. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh Thanks so much, Josh! I fixed. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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