User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish
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Today: Carmen turns 150, as the main page and my story tell you. I chose a 1962 concert of the Habanera, - enjoy! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Today I could have written five stories off the main page, and chose Sofia Gubaidulina. I find the TFA also interesting, and two DYK, and a birthday OTD. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Today: an opera, 100 years old OTD, on Bach's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
You added headers involved / uninvolved to a AN discussion. I am - thank goodness - unfamiliar with the place but was pinged, because I tried to talk to the closer, in 2023 (no response) and now (no response, but now he has not edited at all, not ignored just me). I intentionally stayed away from the RfC, thinking that every oppose was countered or meaningless (like the one that was a user's 6th edit). Am I uninvolved? Should I list that? Is it only for admins? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- You're uninvolved in the topic of the RFC. If you believe your prior involvement in infobox discussions is significant, much as you think for the closer, you can place your comments in the involved section out of an abundance of caution. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:10, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Understand better now that it is not a list of users, but to sort comments. I have no intention to make another one. It's about time that infoboxes are edited per WP:BRD instead of wasting time in RfCs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Fine, all mute, case reopened and closed again, lets see for how long. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:20, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Two RD stories to say bye to March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:13, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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For taking care of the vandalism here. Thank you for your help! JeffSpaceman (talk) 23:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC) |
- As always, glad to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:25, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar |
Thanks for blocking persistent vandal at Sao Paulo, keep up the good work! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2025 (UTC) |
- Glad to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:47, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Sock
[edit]Hello user is constantly making socks and he's back again. [1] I created a new report, more evidence is in the SPI file. Kajmer05 (talk) 11:37, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- But they said it wasn't them!? Sorted, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- They do it to avoid being blocked. Tishreen07's previously blocked accounts also said the same thing. [2][3][4] Also thank you so much! You made my day. :) Kajmer05 (talk) 11:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Glad to help, and yeah, most socks say that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your interest in SPI files. I've tagged you regularly. I hope you don't mind. Thanks! Kajmer05 (talk) 18:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- If I have the free time I don't mind, just don't read a failure to respond as anything other than a lack of availability. They're not trying terribly hard to hide themselves, so it's not exactly rocket surgery to check. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:09, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your interest in SPI files. I've tagged you regularly. I hope you don't mind. Thanks! Kajmer05 (talk) 18:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Glad to help, and yeah, most socks say that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- They do it to avoid being blocked. Tishreen07's previously blocked accounts also said the same thing. [2][3][4] Also thank you so much! You made my day. :) Kajmer05 (talk) 11:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
Wikipedia block
[edit]I hope we’ve both been reading the same messages because, from what I’ve seen, nobody has actually addressed my arguments. Instead, they’ve actively ignored every point I made to make their position appear more credible. I was told my sources weren’t reliable, yet when I asked why, I received no answer. Nobody explained why Shohat’s opinion belongs in the Background section rather than being treated like any other view on the page. I wasn’t allowed to add references to antisemitic incidents in Muslim countries before the mass displacement, despite their clear relevance. Certain editors are showing clear anti-Zionist, anti-Ashkenazi, and pro-Palestinian biases—and yet, nobody seems to care. I have raised these issues in every comment, only to be met with complete silence. Instead of engaging in an open discussion, they use tactical avoidance to continue pushing their views while accusing me of doing the same. With all due respect to fair-minded editors, Wikipedia lost its reliability and neutrality a long time ago.
- I've provided sources for my claim
- there were no personal attacks on the TP
- my arguments have been ignored
Be so kind and explain why I'm the one getting blocked when three people (with clear political positions and editing activities) engage in obvious narrative pushing and I'm trying to add information about the things my own group of people experienced. You can't make up random shit, insert it to Jewish pages and hinder any information flow that speaks against their narrative. And we've both know how Wikipedias opinions are on Jewish topics, especially Zionism. Compare the Nakba page with the Jewish exodus one. Its obvious what's going on AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 12:32, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note, i'm not attacking you personally. Wikipedia has a general issue with anything related to Israel. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 12:35, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Please refer to WP:3RRNO and tell me which edit warring exception you're claiming. If you believe editors are violating NPOV in the topic area WP:AE, WP:ANI, and failing that, the Arbitration Committee are your options. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. I believe the concerns raised in my complaint are both valid and rooted in Wikipedia’s core content policies. I would like to clarify that my actions have not been driven by edit warring, but rather by a genuine desire to correct an imbalance in the article that I believe violates WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. The placement of Ella Shohat’s perspective in the Background section is problematic because it gives disproportionate weight to one particular view, undermining the article’s neutrality and ignoring millennia of Mizrahi history. WP:UNDUE states that no one viewpoint should be emphasized to the extent that it misrepresents the topic as a whole. Shohat’s perspective is considered to be significant by those editors, but so are other scholarly interpretations of the forced Jewish migration from Muslim majority countries. By giving Shohat’s perspective this prominent placement, we risk misguiding readers into believing it is the primary or most accepted explanation, which contravenes the principle of WP:NPOV.
- Regarding the issue of WP:3RRNO, my reverts, as previously mentioned, were not driven by edit warring, but by a need to restore balance to the article. I was acting in good faith to ensure that diverse viewpoints were adequately represented, which falls within the exception outlined by WP:3RRNO that allows for reverts aimed at restoring neutrality and correcting biases. Shohat is not the only issue I've mentioned. This page isn't covering the Jewish view and history good enough. The whole discussion is on the TP, I think I don't have to write a book about it here.
- Honestly I don't think it matters what I do at this point. The Arbitration Committee has already banned several editors for the same reason. @Nishidani's user page is the best example of what mean. The problem is that we can't do this for hundreds of editors actively engaging in political activities on wikipedia.
- Tell me if I misunderstood Wikipedia rules
- AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 13:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- You've certainly misunderstood the 3RR exemption which applies specifically to content related to a WP:BLP. Edit warring is edit warring, and everyone edit warring believes that their preferred version is correct and the other is horribly wrong. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've explained multiple times why I believe it's wrong. And I've also added multiple sources to my claims, especially when I was talking about the treatment of jews under Muslim rule. I never said that the information they're adding is entirely wrong. Im saying they're clearly making biased edits and don't want anything that disagrees with their worldview on those pages. There is a certain effort to change Jewish related pages, and it has been getting worse since last year. All I'm trying to do is to make Wikipedia readable by lifting bias. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:08, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Then follow WP:DR, not edit war. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I tried to resolve the issue on the TP. I was ignored by all involved editors. The discussion is there, you can see for yourself what I'm talking about. They only reacted when I changed something on the page. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- WP:DR has a list of options if the talk page isn't working out. Please use one of them. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- What would you suggest to be the best option here? AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:20, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- A post at WP:NPOVN, and proceed to an RFC if that isn't fruitful. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- How does starting a new discussion at WP:NPOVN help? AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Brings additional eyes to what you're saying is a NPOV issue. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- So basically i just copy my complaint from this page and start a new conversation there AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- You should strive to be as succinct and even toned as possible, rather than just copying your argument over. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, and a pro tip. Don't get into an extended back-and-forth with the editors that you've already discussed with on the article talk page or the whole thing will balloon and no one uninvolved will look at it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Understood, thanks. His friend reverted my edits by the way. Again. That's what I mean when I say that there are efforts to change pages related to the Arab israeli conflict. You've warned one of the editors, doesn't mean the other one can't do anything. That's how it worked for the previous ones. Just saying. Still, thanks for your help. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 19:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish I did what you told me to. The problem is that they're telling me that I should wait until my block expires.
- Also there is a neutrality issue with the user "Bluethricecreamman".
- AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 22:58, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
- @ScottishFinnishRadish I did what you told me to. The problem is that they're telling me that I should wait until my block expires.
- Understood, thanks. His friend reverted my edits by the way. Again. That's what I mean when I say that there are efforts to change pages related to the Arab israeli conflict. You've warned one of the editors, doesn't mean the other one can't do anything. That's how it worked for the previous ones. Just saying. Still, thanks for your help. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 19:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, and a pro tip. Don't get into an extended back-and-forth with the editors that you've already discussed with on the article talk page or the whole thing will balloon and no one uninvolved will look at it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alright. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 15:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- You should strive to be as succinct and even toned as possible, rather than just copying your argument over. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- So basically i just copy my complaint from this page and start a new conversation there AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:47, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Brings additional eyes to what you're saying is a NPOV issue. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- How does starting a new discussion at WP:NPOVN help? AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:41, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- A post at WP:NPOVN, and proceed to an RFC if that isn't fruitful. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:25, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I tried to resolve the issue on the TP. I was ignored by all involved editors. The discussion is there, you can see for yourself what I'm talking about. They only reacted when I changed something on the page. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:16, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Then follow WP:DR, not edit war. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've explained multiple times why I believe it's wrong. And I've also added multiple sources to my claims, especially when I was talking about the treatment of jews under Muslim rule. I never said that the information they're adding is entirely wrong. Im saying they're clearly making biased edits and don't want anything that disagrees with their worldview on those pages. There is a certain effort to change Jewish related pages, and it has been getting worse since last year. All I'm trying to do is to make Wikipedia readable by lifting bias. AhmedElMohamedi (talk) 14:08, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- You've certainly misunderstood the 3RR exemption which applies specifically to content related to a WP:BLP. Edit warring is edit warring, and everyone edit warring believes that their preferred version is correct and the other is horribly wrong. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Support needed
[edit]It is, by my computer's clock, past 00:00 AEDT on 2025-04-01. So it would be appreciated if you (and any of your lurkers) could today add a little happiness to Drmies's day with some Support of your choosing.
Of course, as we all know, a good rationale is a key thing in these sorts of discussions.
It does not have to involve furniture, despite the obvious Round Table that Drmies just built entirely unprompted, or even dead people (in the Lincoln Cemetery or otherwise). You could address anything, from taking an axe to axe, through belting out AFC approval on The Onion Belt and finally (after 12 years!) letting us know that we had been speaking an African Urban Youth Language all along, to the plenisocculence of the tumble-dryer of life.
Uncle G (talk) 13:00, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Bonjour mon ami
[edit]I've managed to avoid April fools on Wikipedia so far. Is there anything I should or shouldn't be doing tomorrow when the fun and games start? Knitsey (talk) 14:17, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- You absolutely should not take part in the discussion directly above this one. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:41, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support Uncle G (Supporting Drmies since April 2009) 14:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I saw that and Drmies talk page. I shall not be taking part. I promise. Probably. Knitsey (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support Uncle G (Supporting Drmies since April 2009) 14:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Another move discussion at Gaza Genocide
[edit]seems to be snowing, and no additional evidence really presented.
just notifying an admin with significant experience in this topic area. personally don’t think a move discussion is warranted Bluethricecreamman (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've been mostly keeping out of that topic area since my election to the Arbitration Committee, so you'll have to find another admin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:07, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Liz seems to have commented its not snowing on the RFC, and Tamzin also agrees its probably fine. thanks for the comment. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
Request to contact the Arbitration Committee
[edit]Please contact the Arbitration Committee at arbcom-enwikimedia.org at your earliest convenience. Thank you, Barkeep49 (talk) 00:51, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- You'll never catch me, copper! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:52, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
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April Fool block
[edit]Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, given [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents[edit]#Questionable block]], I am not sure about the block for Keekekekeke. Their last edit before April Fools seems to have been positive, and edits before then a misunderstanding of expanding redirects. CMD (talk) 12:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I think rolling in off a block for bad April fools noms after responding to a warning with no with another disruptive nom after making a bunch of disruptive RfDs, and after having their first edit outside of userspace be giving an anti-vandal barnstar to an admin with no recent anti-vandalism work and no interaction with the editor points pretty strongly to NOTHERE, and requires a demonstration of competence and willingness to not edit disruptively before being allowed to edit further.
- Also, while taking another look at this and putting together my reply I decided there was enough evidence to run a check, and they're now CU blocked. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, SFR for the follow up and longer block.
User:Chipmunkdavis, no questions directed to me for possible misbehavior? Is this how you assume good faith of a 20-year editor with zero history of disruption? If I'm not trusted on English Wikipedia I'm happy to lay down my tools. Thanks loads...BusterD (talk) 13:34, 2 April 2025 (UTC)- I don't think there was any concern about your block there, since it stopped immediate disruption for the duration of April Fools. I think the objection for my block was that I went straight to indef. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- It's clear my view of what constitutes vandalism (which seems to work fine 364 days a year) isn't applicable on April 1. That's not a BusterD problem. BusterD (talk) 13:47, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I am somewhat confused. To my memory given it has changed now, the block notice said ScottishFinnishRadish indeffed for NOTHERE. It didn't mention the behaviour or mis of so of BusterD. Thanks for the longer explanation, glad my caution was unwarranted. CMD (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Didn't mean to take it out on either of you, but my 31 hour block of Keekekekeke preceded SFR's indef, and I was the sysop called out in the linked thread. I misunderstood CMD was unhappy with my block of K. It's clear I'm taking this too seriously and I appreciate both of your indulgence in the matter. IMHO this April 1st stuff is going to come to a head at some point. BusterD (talk) 13:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I can tell you that it certainly made working AIV less pleasant yesterday. That and the new Skrillex album, F*CK U SKRILLEX YOU THINK UR ANDY WARHOL BUT UR NOT!! <3 causing edit filter hits all over the place. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:01, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi BusterD, to clarify, I was unaware you had blocked Keekekeke, and I was pointing to the AN/I thread not for your block but due to its providing an example that the community was unsure of such blocks. An unfortunate coincidence, my apologies. CMD (talk) 14:05, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- My apologies to both of you. Perhaps I shouldn't watch UConn Huskies women's basketball and swing a mop simultaneously. I'll be sure to log out Friday eve. BusterD (talk) 14:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I must confess to both of you, this year the 4/1 disruption made me extremely angry, not just annoyed. I'm currently working off-wiki on a draft about the disinformation economy. Knowing the forces arrayed right now against our foundation and the Internet Archive, these days I don't take kindly to deliberate disruption of any kind. It's starting to feel like Fort Apache, The Bronx around here. BusterD (talk) 14:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I get it. Can't say I've ever found it great either, but then again I've never done it much in real life, so maybe I'm the odd one. CMD (talk) 14:22, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I must confess to both of you, this year the 4/1 disruption made me extremely angry, not just annoyed. I'm currently working off-wiki on a draft about the disinformation economy. Knowing the forces arrayed right now against our foundation and the Internet Archive, these days I don't take kindly to deliberate disruption of any kind. It's starting to feel like Fort Apache, The Bronx around here. BusterD (talk) 14:14, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- My apologies to both of you. Perhaps I shouldn't watch UConn Huskies women's basketball and swing a mop simultaneously. I'll be sure to log out Friday eve. BusterD (talk) 14:08, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- Didn't mean to take it out on either of you, but my 31 hour block of Keekekekeke preceded SFR's indef, and I was the sysop called out in the linked thread. I misunderstood CMD was unhappy with my block of K. It's clear I'm taking this too seriously and I appreciate both of your indulgence in the matter. IMHO this April 1st stuff is going to come to a head at some point. BusterD (talk) 13:57, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think there was any concern about your block there, since it stopped immediate disruption for the duration of April Fools. I think the objection for my block was that I went straight to indef. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
Abcsomwiz
[edit]I was actually getting ready to file a SPI, but I thought it was Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Matan ibn Uthman rather than PaullyMatthews. MrOllie (talk) 13:26, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
- There's a lot of crossover between their socks, and I've seen the WP:BEANS in both. Paully had more recent socks to check, so I went down that route. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:28, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
Please follow consensus
[edit]Restored Template:As of, Per WP:MOS, MOS:CURRENT, MOS:REALTIME, and WP:PW consensus on page Tatum Paxley. I suggest reading through said extensive discussions before any future wanton reverts. Секретное общество (talk) 04:11, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Message
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possibly one serial sock 93.143.57.185 (talk) 15:00, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
Logged out editing?
[edit]Any chance of checking the IP you recently blocked 103.204.132.116 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) against Elowa? I realize that you won't be able to acknowledge the results on-wiki in either case. Abecedare (talk) 18:01, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Diplomacy |
I'm hoping to respond to your comment when I have more time to process it, but since my first thought was to show you how much I appreciate you taking the time to talk to me and not just brushing off my concerns, sending one of these you just seemed like it made sense to me. Seeing actions and follow up discussions like yours helps me remember at times, there are people on here who will do the right thing, and will even in the face of pushback. Thank you! Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC) |
- Thank you, I really appreciate that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)