Template:Did you know nominations/James Nwoye Adichie

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The result was: promoted by Kingsif talk 01:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

James Nwoye Adichie

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... that James Nwoye Adichie was the first person to hold a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics in Nigeria? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fruto Proibido

Created by SafariScribe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 14:02, 9 March 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @SafariScribe: The article is new enough and long enough. No copyvio detected. QPQ done. The hook is interesting but I don't see in the source where it says he was the first person in Nigeria to have a PhD in statistics? The source says he was "the second person to obtain a PhD degree in Statistics from the University of California and the first Nigerian to do so." The source makes it sound like he was first Nigerian to get a PhD in statistics specifically from that college. Thoughts? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

IIRC "first to do X as a Y" hooks are generally frowned upon in the DYK community. Bremps... 15:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that James Nwoye Adichie was the first Nigerian to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/
@WikiOriginal-9, I have fixed the hook. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 08:06, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

How about ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? A Nigerian being the second overall person to get a PhD in statistics from UC Berkeley seems more interesting, assuming the source is correct... (WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA) ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Nigerian James Nwoye Adichie was the second person to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley? Source: https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
WikiOriginal-9? done.Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
That looks good. I guess I'll assume good faith on that source. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9 Take a look at page 6 line 22 https://www.stat.rice.edu/~tsn4867/all_files/IMS_VOLUME/IMS%20VOLUME/IMS_template.pdf. Does it provide any context? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for that. That does cast some doubt on the claim above. Maybe we could do one of the below two hooks instead:
ALT3: ... that in 1966, James Nwoye Adichie became the first Nigerian to obtain a Doctor of Philosophy degree in statistics from the University of California, Berkeley?
ALT4: ... that Nigerian academic James Nwoye Adichie was kidnapped in 2015?

I know Bremps left that comment above about "first to do X as a Y" hooks but I still think it's kind of interesting. Others can disagree if they want. Also, were there anymore details on his kidnapping or no? The article doesn't explain why he was kidnapped. Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to check the latest proposed ALT hooks, since they were proposed by the original reviewer. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:38, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

ALT3 needs an end-of-sentence citation, ALT4's fine, but the death date needs a citation.--Laun chba ller 02:58, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@SafariScribe, WikiOriginal-9, Bremps, Vanderwaalforces, and BlueMoonset: As this is past WP:DYKTIMEOUT, I will close this in 24 hours if the above is not addressed.--Laun chba ller 11:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: what do you mean by an end-of-sentence citation? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:22, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:DYKHFC: "The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear."--Laun chba ller 12:24, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: ALT4 is very much okay and the date is already verified by https://thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020/ above. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I resolved the tag myself; ALT4 approved.--Laun chba ller 14:05, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Extensive WP:CLOP from thesun.ng/james-nwoye-adichie-1932-2020. Some of the duplication is unavoidable use of proper nouns, but the overall structure is copied almost sentence-for-sentence, along with phrases like "He proceeded to", "scholarly papers in reputable journals", "left the CBN and moved to ...", etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoySmith (talk • contribs) 11:29, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

@RoySmith: I sorted this out, Earwig now returns 18% with mostly nouns.Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2025 (UTC)