Template:Did you know nominations/Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)
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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle talk 14:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
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Francisco Mascarenhas (Governor of Macau)
- ... that the first governor of Macau, Francisco Mascarenhas, burned another Portuguese nobleman at the stake in the only known instance of an auto-da-fé at sea?
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 98: "On the homeward voyage, he 'ordered a gentleman of quality to be burnt to death, after finding him guilty of indulging in the unspeakable sin of sodomy'. This surely must be the only instance of an auto-da-fe at sea! Although the stake was the recognized penalty for this crime, the victim's social standing (he was a fidalgo named Francisco Pereira Pinto) got Dom Francisco into trouble, [...]"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tsuita
Created by Underbar dk (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.
_dk (talk) 23:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: New, long enough, and no paraphrasing issues. Looks GTG. Makeandtoss (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
@Makeandtoss and Underbar dk: there is a discrepancy between the certainty of the hook and the source, which by stating "This surely must be the only instance..." does not make it certain. Is better sourcing available? See the last sentence of WP:DYKDEFINITE for why it is necessary. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Would it be fine if I added "according to historian C. R. Boxer?" to the hook? _dk (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Probably, although that may make excessively long.~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:01, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry I forgot about this nom. I've come up with another hook that's hopefully less problematic:
- ALT2: ... that the first governor of Macau Francisco Mascarenhas took the Fortaleza do Monte as the governor's residence from the Jesuits through a ruse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underbar dk (talk • contribs) 13:43, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Source: Boxer, Fidalgos in the Far East (1948), p. 97: "Modern repairs to the venerable citadel of Saint Paul [the Fortaleza do Monte] have disclosed the blocked-up postern gate. A perusal of Dom Francisco's papers at Evora, shows that the Jesuits retained possession of the citadel after the revolt, and the he evicted them three months later by a ruse at an opportune moment."
Reviewer needed for ALT2. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Underbar dk: ALT2 needs an end-of-sentence citation anyway, but a hook about oranges is likely to be more interesting anyway.--Launchballer 16:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: The very next sentence, which details the ruse, is cited, so I thought a cite on the ALT2 hook sentence would be redundant. I've added the cite to the hook in the article anyway. I didn't think a hook about orange would be interesting personally, but eh:
- @Underbar dk: ALT2 needs an end-of-sentence citation anyway, but a hook about oranges is likely to be more interesting anyway.--Launchballer 16:06, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that the first governor of Macau Francisco Mascarenhas is credited as an early introducer of the Chinese sweet orange into Europe?[1] _dk (talk) 01:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)