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Okay Yemen's land area very important elements and its actually around 453,000 sqkm I checked this through google maps Measure distance feature which also allows to measure total area which is actually really accurate. I found that the source that claims Yemen is 100,000 sqkm bigger than it actually is is very outdated and unreliable information. I suggest you put it to around my size or you could check for yourself if you wanted in google maps
if you want the source well i guess my reddit post with the photo https://www.reddit.com/r/geography/comments/1afny7e/yemen_why_does_its_size_mismatch/Computment (talk) 18:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know my video contains a lot of original research and doesnt meet wikipedia standards for a source so I decided to start a RfC and seek consensus on this topic. Borysk5 (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd recommend we use actual sources and not google map's area feature thingy because we all know about the bugs in google maps Abo Yemen✉15:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking your video it seems true that Yemen's size has been exaggerated, but this may be WP:OR. Wikipedia's purpose is limited to citing what the reliable sources, regardless of whether they are accurate or not. If an error exists, the first place to change it should be Yemeni government documents or the CIA Factbook and not Wikipedia, to avoid fiascos from before like with the Austro-Hungarian flag or Scots Wikipedia. Nonetheless an RFC on the matter is necessary. HetmanTheResearcher (talk) 19:45, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to the JOSM "measurement" plugin, the area enclosed by OpenStreetMap relation 305092 (the Yemen country boundary) is 522985.715 km². This includes territorial waters out to 12 nautical miles, and is still less than the 527968 km² land-only figure claimed by the World Factbook; it seems consistent with Britannica's ~455000 km² being the true land-only figure. (Obviously this is OR, just posting it since it was requested for context.) Lexande (talk) 15:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yemen's government is a bit dysfunctional right now and we don't have to use the CIA world fact book. Probably worth looking at what can be dug up from other sources.
I also found these sources: [2] (published by Yemeni government in I think 2005): "The area of Yemen is 455,503 sq. km. most of which is rocky land". Interestingly also I found World Bank document which notices this discrepancy, while in some parts using 555,000 km2 figure (page 26) and in others using 455,000 figure (page 83). Borysk5 (talk) 17:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both these sources are much more presentable by Wikipedia standards compared to the video. They clearly show the discrepancy exists. I'll support changing the number to the 455,000 figure. HetmanTheResearcher (talk) 22:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above discussion and the provided sources.
Use other RS, and if necessary indicate that the Britannica figure is disputed, but certainly do not base any of this on someone's OR YouTube video. It's one thing to do that work as a tool for helping editors internally come to an understanding of what the issue might be, but the video and the OR behind it is not itself an RS. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 13:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Abo Yemen: I actually checked the size of pre-1934 Kingdom of Yemen when i started my research, it wasnt enough to account for the 195,000 figure which clearly comes from the vilayet. As for Arabia Peninsula, I checked other countries, and Oman, Jordan, Kuwait and Qatar are correct while UAE and Saudi Arabia are slightly oversized (Saudi Arabia is 1.9 mln km2, not 2.1). Borysk5 (talk) 08:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sucks. Do you think that the govt included the sea borders or whatever they're called into the total size to make it seem larger? Abo Yemen✉17:07, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Change the size ranking stat in the infobox from "49th" to "54th". When fixing Yemen's size from 500k+ km² to ~455k km², it seems that people forgot to adapt this one part. If you actually go and click on the page that tbe "49th" stat links you to, you'll see Yemen is correctly listed as occupying the 54th position in the table over there.
Similarly, it might be a good idea to revise the population density stat. It says the density is 65/km², but that's using the old, inaccurate area data, no? The correct value should be somewhere around 75/km², I believe. 2804:1B0:1903:385:DDF4:48:9517:A402 (talk) 05:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. see WP:OR as well Cannolis (talk) 19:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Abo Yemen✉ 07:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
