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On 15 January 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to List of settlements depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war. The result of the discussion was not moved.

what's about jewish villages ?

to be neutral this article should also mark the jewish villages depopulated during the war Anticonstitutionnelist (talk) 20:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a list of depopulated Jewish cities? 2603:8001:DE40:1BA0:FDFD:C287:F6D7:3FB0 (talk) 07:54, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, here. Zero^talk 11:21, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Palestinian villages were not just 'depopulated' they were evicted and more, here's an Israeli article to prove that:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-05-05/ty-article/.premium/after-two-decades-israeli-court-approves-eviction-of-eight-palestinian-villages/00000180-9e4e-d1e3-a190-fecfc3c20000 Peace 4 all humans (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Bunnypranav (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biased title

Depopulated is the passive voice, i.e. "a place lost population." This does not reflect that it was done at gunpoint. Displaced, dispossessed, annexed, expropriated, etc. are all more accurate and less biased GalacticEncyclopedist (talk) 20:08, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Annexed" and "expropriated" are legal terms that don't necessarily apply to each place. "Displaced" and "dispossessed" apply to people, not places. I can agree that "depopulated" is not perfect but I don't think any of those are better. In this time period, the main events were expulsion by force, and evacuation out of fear, in both cases cemented by refusal to allow return. Zero^talk 01:07, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 January 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus against the proposed move. Lots of alternatives were suggested over the two weeks this has been open: places, localities, communities – broader discussion followed by a second RM might be necessary. (closed by non-admin page mover) Cremastra (talk) 20:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of towns and villages depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war → List of settlements depopulated during the 1947–1949 Palestine war – This list includes other types of settlements like cities Abo Yemen ✉ 06:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 19:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The term 'settlements' has a better known and controversial meaning in this part of the world. Perhaps 'places' (which is used for two of the categories this article is in, such as Category:Former populated places in the State of Palestine) might be a better option? And possibly a more fundamental question to the move rationale: Were any of the places in question actually defined as cities at the time? Number 5 7 22:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Number 57 that “Places” would be a better word than “settlements” Rainsage (talk)
Oppose, towns and villages is just fine and is used in RS, eg this book published by Indiana University Press.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:36, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Cities, WikiProject Military history, and WikiProject Human rights have been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 19:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. #57 is correct about "settlements". The only issue I have with "towns and villages" is that some of the localities, such as parts of Jerusalem, were neither. What about "communities"? Or, to take a hint from myself, "localities". In fact localities would also cover examples such as bedouin domains that were arguably not villages. Zero^talk 09:33, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Revisions to Table

The table (especially the “massacres” column) is rife with errors. The table asserts that massacres or “atrocities,” which it does not define, occurred in several cities (e.g., Safed, Akko, Be’er Sheva) where they did not. In all of these cases, the population is known to have fled or been driven out without systematic killings. See Morris. The table also includes a reference to the Al-bassa massacre, which occurred 10 years prior to the beginning of the war.

As a result, the page is seriously misleading at best and outright inaccurate at worst. This requires immediate revision. 2600:1702:4BF5:7810:F939:6C96:6F3:16F9 (talk) 06:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All those are sourced to Abu Sitta, see the table on pages 108-115. The atrocities themselves – including in the towns and cities you mentioned (including in Bassa in 1948 – a second in 10 years) are described in more detail on pages 92-97. The final column in the latter table, "Reference" explains the underlying sources. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:41, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]