Talk:Kawa model

Kawa model is currently a Biology and medicine good article nominee. Nominated by Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) at 17:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

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Short description: Conceptual model in occupational therapy

Kawa model was nominated as a Natural sciences good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 17, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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A fact from Kawa model appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 July 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Kawa model uses the metaphor of a river to help people contemplate their well-being?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 12:28, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Kawa model was the first occupational therapy framework developed outside the Western world? Source: https://doi.org/10.15453/2168-6408.1952
- ALT1: ... that the Kawa model uses the metaphor of a river to help people contemplate their well-being? Source: https://doi.org/10.15453/2168-6408.1952
- Reviewed:

Created by Significa liberdade (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 1 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kawa model; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Great hook (both of them). I prefer ALT1 but ALT0 equally works well for the DYK section. Article is within policy and new and long enough. ~~Just needs the QPQ to be done for this to be good to go.~~ Soulbust (talk) 06:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Soulbust, I only see evidence of two previous DYKs promoted to the main page prior to this nomination. Are you sure a QPQ is required? Were there any other issues? BlueMoonset (talk) 19:17, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: You're right, I had seen that this was the nominator's 5th nomination and thought QPQ would come into play, but forgot that promotion is part of the criteria as well. In that case, this is ready for the DYK section. Soulbust (talk) 02:41, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Unsuccessful. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 16:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kawa model/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Significa liberdade (talk · contribs) 01:51, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Wolverine XI (talk · contribs) 06:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing this article shortly. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 06:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

the model draws upon the metaphor of a river to describe human occupation, which according to OTs refers to individuals' daily activities that make life meaningful.
and the model uses the metaphor of a river to represent a person's life flow or occupational journey.

Why are you repeating the same information? And if I may ask, which of these describe the concept of the Kawa model more accurately?

Mind linking river banks, rocks and driftwood in the lead.

The river represents the dynamic and ever-changing nature of life, while rocks, debris, and other elements in the river symbolize obstacles, challenges, and personal experiences.
In the model, "water (mizu) represents life flow and health, driftwood (ryuboku) represents personal assets and liabilities, rocks (iwa) represent life circumstances and problems, and the river walls (torimaki) represent physical and social environmental factors."

Again, you are repeating the same information. Wouldn't it be better for you to just combine the two?

Link occupational therapy at first occurrence.

These may include cultural norms, social expectations, family, and environmental conditions. These factors can support or hinder the person's occupational journey. Please don't start two consecutive sentences with "these".

However, in the best circumstances, => However, in the most ideal circumstances

It should flow down the river, but it may become stuck on a rock and become an impediment; however, it may also unearth rocks to make them less challenging. What do you mean it "should"?

When utilizing the Kawa model, OTs often begin by requesting their clients create a visual representation of their life using the river metaphor.[2][4] During and after the client's creation, the OT will ask "open-ended, clarifying questions, using a collaborative approach to ensure that the model provides an accurate representation of the client’s perceptions of his or her life."[2]: 17 The discussion should allow the OT and client "to explore life’s problems, to discuss support systems, and to brainstorm effective methods of problem resolution."[4]: 2 Importantly, the Kawa model is meant to be used as a flexible guide,[8] meaning "it can be used differently with each client, centering on the client’s perspective and narrative rather than a specific procedural agenda." In this paragraph, you heavily rely on quotes, which I don't quite understand. Please rephrase the quoted information in your own words.

In one study, Lape et al. used the Kawa model within a collaborative care team to facilitate communication about a patient's care needs. Using the model, the care team developed a "holistic picture of [the client] that showcased each health care professional’s unique perspective, which was interwoven with the perspectives of the rest of the team."[9]: 3 Participants in the study found that using the model "provided a common language for interprofessional collaboration" and could be effectively used within their profession. And this paragraph too.

I added a citation needed tag in "Strengths".

Importantly, clients are also actively involved in goal-setting, which both centers the clients' values and increases their motivation to participate in therapy. This is not neutral.

Both OTs and clients can find the conceptual framework difficult to understand. I don't see the use of this sentence.

Images

File:Kawa Model.jpg is properly licensed (CC0, own work)
Would you be able to add more pictures?

Broadness

this source (Kawa model on mental health, sports and physical performance: A mini review) may be of interest.
this source discusses how using the Kawa model could improve teachers' socio-economic health.
Other than the two items I've listed above, I found no further issues regarding broadness.

Sources

The source review will take place sometime next week. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 07:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will be failing this article due to the nominator's lack of cooperation. Feel free to re-nominate once the issues are addressed. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 16:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GAN wrong category?

Shouldn't this article be listed under Culture, sociology and psychology instead of Biology and medicine? Dunkleosteus77 (talk) 14:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kawa model/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Significa liberdade (talk · contribs) 17:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Dracophyllum (talk · contribs) 22:25, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Hello, comments to follow. Draco phyllum 22:25, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start by suggesting the comments at Talk:Kawa model/GA1 be addressed, if they haven't already. @Significa liberdade:
Hi there, Dracophyllum! I've made some phrasing adjustments based on the comments the previous reviewer left. I have not yet read the recommended articles. Do you have specific suggestions for the types of images that may be helpful? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:14, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for slow response, I am very busy rn but should have time in a week. Draco phyllum 22:04, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Review

1a)
- Immediately the main issue is WP:OVERQUOTE, summarise/paraphrase the sources and only quote when it is absolutely needed.
- link collectivistic to collectivism
- " The model is now actively taught in over 500 OT programs and utilized on six continents" could be worded to sound less promotional.
- More and more > Increasingly
- Many OTs consider the Kawa model to be culturally responsive.[][][][][] 3 refs would be plenty
- Many OTs find that the Kawa model is highly client-centered, which helps OTs understand the client's perspectives and priorities.[]][][][][] Better than lots of sources is one or two that claim that many OTs have this view.
- Clients are also actively involved in goal-setting, centers the clients' values and may increase their motivation to participate in therapy. > ;centering...and potentially increasing...

Below are GA1 Comments, they should all be considered.

the model draws upon the metaphor of a river to describe human occupation, which according to OTs refers to individuals' daily activities that make life meaningful.
and the model uses the metaphor of a river to represent a person's life flow or occupational journey.

Why are you repeating the same information? And if I may ask, which of these describe the concept of the Kawa model more accurately?

Mind linking river banks, rocks and driftwood in the lead.

The river represents the dynamic and ever-changing nature of life, while rocks, debris, and other elements in the river symbolize obstacles, challenges, and personal experiences.
In the model, "water (mizu) represents life flow and health, driftwood (ryuboku) represents personal assets and liabilities, rocks (iwa) represent life circumstances and problems, and the river walls (torimaki) represent physical and social environmental factors."

Again, you are repeating the same information. Wouldn't it be better for you to just combine the two?

Link occupational therapy at first occurrence.

These may include cultural norms, social expectations, family, and environmental conditions. These factors can support or hinder the person's occupational journey. Please don't start two consecutive sentences with "these".

However, in the best circumstances, => However, in the most ideal circumstances

It should flow down the river, but it may become stuck on a rock and become an impediment; however, it may also unearth rocks to make them less challenging. What do you mean it "should"?

When utilizing the Kawa model, OTs often begin by requesting their clients create a visual representation of their life using the river metaphor.[2][4] During and after the client's creation, the OT will ask "open-ended, clarifying questions, using a collaborative approach to ensure that the model provides an accurate representation of the client’s perceptions of his or her life."[2]: 17 The discussion should allow the OT and client "to explore life’s problems, to discuss support systems, and to brainstorm effective methods of problem resolution."[4]: 2 Importantly, the Kawa model is meant to be used as a flexible guide,[8] meaning "it can be used differently with each client, centering on the client’s perspective and narrative rather than a specific procedural agenda." In this paragraph, you heavily rely on quotes, which I don't quite understand. Please rephrase the quoted information in your own words.

In one study, Lape et al. used the Kawa model within a collaborative care team to facilitate communication about a patient's care needs. Using the model, the care team developed a "holistic picture of [the client] that showcased each health care professional’s unique perspective, which was interwoven with the perspectives of the rest of the team."[9]: 3 Participants in the study found that using the model "provided a common language for interprofessional collaboration" and could be effectively used within their profession. And this paragraph too.

I added a citation needed tag in "Strengths".

Importantly, clients are also actively involved in goal-setting, which both centers the clients' values and increases their motivation to participate in therapy. This is not neutral.

Both OTs and clients can find the conceptual framework difficult to understand. I don't see the use of this sentence.

1b) MOS good Y
2a) Layout good Y
2b) All sources are journals or blogs of Iwama Y
2c) spot checking clean Y
- ref 6: good
- ref 9a: good
- ref 15: good
- ref 17a: claims it may be stressful for new users but: "Likewise, the model was easy to apply while also pushing the boundaries of therapeutic practice"
- ref 20: good
2d) Earwig clean Y, picks up ur quotes however.
3a), 3b) Focus and depth good, could maybe benefit from an example. Y
4) The fewer quotes it has the more neutral it will become.
5) stable, non-controversial topic Y
6a) pass C0 own work Y
6b) appropriate, any other diagrams or a photo of Iwama would be great but not essential. Y

Review paused for now, awaiting response. @Significa liberdade:. Draco phyllum 09:55, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]