Talk:Jim McGovern (American politician)

Jim McGovern (American politician) was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
October 4, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed
April 7, 2025	Good article reassessment	Delisted

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Disambiguation with Scottish politician of the same name

Editors of this page may be interested in discussion at Talk:Jim McGovern (politician)#Page name. There are (at least) two politicians with the same name. Cnilep (talk) 01:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page should be Jim McGovern (American politician), Jim McGovern should redirect to the James McGovern disambig page.Hoponpop69 (talk) 21:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 16 October 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moving all, including those mentioned by power~enwiki below. But revert Alan Simpson to Alan K. Simpson - there's no consensus one way or the other on that one, so reverting the undiscussed move, and people can feel free to repropose the move to "American politican" if they want to. — Amakuru (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

– The disambiguations should preferably use national demonyms, as suggested in User:Jarry1250/Findings found at WP:NCDAB. Recently at the suggestion of multiple other users, another article about a Member of Congress was moved to Tim Murphy (American politician), when I had suggested "Tim Murphy (U.S. politician)". Arbor to SJ (talk) 20:26, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there are a few more: Andy Barr (U.S. politician), Chris Collins (U.S. politician), David Price (U.S. politician), Jim Jordan (U.S. politician), Mike Lee (U.S. politician), and Richard Hudson (U.S. politician). Also Dan Sullivan (U.S. Senator) which is a special case as there are two politicians named Dan Sullivan from Alaska. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "American" is the standard disambiguator for people. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Move Alan Simpson (U.S. politician) back to Alan K. Simpson per WP:NATURAL and WP:NCDAB to revert recent undiscussed move. Alan K. Simpson is his very commonly used real name, which is preferred to any artificial parenthetical qualifier. Neutral on the others. Station1 (talk) 09:10, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Alan Simpson" is more common than "Alan K. Simpson", based on google searches (with the accompanying words, Wyoming senator). Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:07, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Alan K. Simpson" is very commonly used, including in highly reliable sources. Whether or not it's the most commonly used name is irrelevant, because disambiguating with an alternative natural name is almost always preferred to us making up an artificial article title, per policy and guidelines mentioned. Station1 (talk) 17:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Please notify me for a redo RM

I realize I'm too late but I don't agree with the justification for the move above and all similar ones. Very few participated in the above RM and I question the finding that the opinions expressed reflect community consensus on this question. Please notify me if there is another RM to correct this or any similar title changes. --В²C ☎ 22:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are outlined below:

There is uncited prose throughout the article.
The article has too many small sections, some of which are only a sentence long. This doesn't follow criteria 2 regarding the article layout. (MOS:PARA)
I do not think the article meets WP:NPOV. It seems like this article is written to highlight the politician's adherance to popular Democratic policies in 2025. I think most of the prose about their political career needs to be removed, while his most important initiatives (not just votes on issues) are highlighted.

Is anyone willing to address the above concerns, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 00:57, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

Jim McGovern (American politician)

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:12, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is uncited prose throughout the article. The article has too many small sections, some of which are only a sentence long. This doesn't follow criteria 2 regarding the article layout. (MOS:PARA) I also do not think the article meets WP:NPOV. It seems like this article is written to highlight the politician's adherance to popular Democratic policies in 2025. I think most of the prose about their political career needs to be removed, while his most important initiatives (not just votes on issues) are highlighted. Z1720 (talk) 15:26, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This does stink of editors seeing news articles and adding quick 1 sentence mentions in an unorganized form, resulting in the plethora of small sections. Part of the GA criteria is organization, as Z1720 describes in the nomination. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fail I agree with Z1720. Highlighting important initiatives should be done more neutrally than the current article does. Ex. Stating that “McGovern is known as a leading voice on ending hunger and food insecurity” with only one source violates criterion 2 and 4. McGovern might well be a leading voice on the matter, but one source cannot verify this potentially contentious claim. Compass128 (talk) 19:07, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.