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Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House is currently an Art and architecture good article nominee. Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 13:27, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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A fact from Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 May 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife paid off the architect's fee for their house by charging visitors admission?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 03:41, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House

... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife charged people admission to visit their house (pictured)? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT1: ... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife charged admission to visit their house (pictured), earning enough money to pay for the architect's fee? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT1A: ... that Herbert Jacobs and his wife paid off the architect's fee for their house (pictured) by charging visitors admission? Source: Scardino, Albert (May 27, 1987). "Herbert Jacobs, 30's Reporter Who Reshaped Architecture". The New York Times.
- ALT2: ... that to save US$35, the owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) asked its architect to shorten a roof eave by 2 feet (0.61 m)? Source: Jacobs, Herbert (October 4, 1976). "[For Working] And Living". The Capital Times. pp. 21, 22.
- ALT3: ... that the owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) could not obtain a U.S. federal government loan because the house had a flat roof? Source: Gill, Brendan (1987). Many Masks: A Life of Frank Lloyd Wright. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons. p. 389
- ALT4: ... that the popularity of Frank Lloyd Wright's Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) prompted Americans to ask him to design their houses? Source: Rosenbaum, Alvin (1993). Usonia: Frank Lloyd Wright's Design for America. Preservation Press, National Trust for Historic Preservation. p. 150.
- ALT5: ... that the first owners of the Herbert and Katherine Jacobs First House (pictured) spent all their savings on just the land? Source: Gill 1987, p. 389.
- Reviewed: Niederdollendorf stone (3rd of 3 QPQs)

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 717 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Will be claiming this for review and will work on it within the next few days. Personally I think ALT3 is the most interesting hook as it's not uncommon for houses to charge admission for entry, and the others seem somewhat more specialist. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at this to review for a qpq but see that it is already occupied. I dislike ALT3 because it says nothing special about the subject, just about building laws. (It may be misnumbered above.) My favourite is ALT1, but I'd add a link to the architect, who for some readers might be the only thing interesting. All hooks need a pictured-clause. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking about this again, I might be more open to ALT1 if it's slightly reworded so that the focus in on the "paying the architect's fee" aspect rather than simply the charging for admission aspect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:26, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for taking a look. I've proposed ALT1A accordingly. As to Gerda's comment, I've added "pictured" to the hooks. Epicgenius (talk) 00:58, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay in doing this! Real life matters suddenly caught up. I'll get to it tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:41, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay in reviewing. A 5x expansion was accomplished at the time of the nomination and meets DYK length requirements. A QPQ has been done. I did not find any close paraphrasing, and the article is adequately cited. ALT1a is the best option of the hook and the only one that I'm approving. It is cited inline; I will assume good faith here as the NYT source is asking me to register to view it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:23, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the review. Here's the complimentary link to the NYT article if you wanted to check it. Epicgenius (talk) 13:31, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]