The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Turkish schoolchildren are taught that the Armenian Genocide never happened and instead, Armenians committed genocide against Turks?
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in the 2nd paragraph of 'denialism in academia' a sentence includes '...none of the original signitories besides Justin Mcarthy...'. would that read better if 'besides' were replaced with 'except'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Potholehotline (talk • contribs) 21:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The text says he was "buried as a national hero" but that is just an ordinary tomb that carries no text/memorial to promote his war crimes, and thus I believe that is a biased approach. The Monument of Liberty, built in 1911, has no direct correlation with war criminals - if it were, it would have been demolished by the British occupation forces, which held the city under control for five years, after the Istanbul trials for conviction of war criminals. AscendencyXXIV (talk) 03:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why would it need to be a famous quote? Seems like a succinct summary of the issue by a notable scholar who published a book on the history of the Armenian Genocide. – notwally (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's a pretty strong claim, and also reads to me as a bit rhetorical. It would be better to represent a scholarly consensus in WIkipedia's own voice than to put this quote in the lead. ꧁Zanahary꧂19:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are at least three other sources cited in the "Examination of claims" section that support the same point—that deniers claim that Armenians brought the violence upon themselves. (t · c) buidhe16:42, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn’t amount to “there was no genocide, and the Armenians were to blame for it”—it would be more clear to just state in Wikipedia’s voice that deniers claim that Armenians brought the violence upon themselves. ꧁Zanahary꧂17:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you check the footnotes one of these is Chorbajian 2016, p. 167, where the following quote is provided "Denial of the Armenian Genocide, therefore, consists of a two-pronged complementary, yet also contradictory, argument we can call 'They Brought It on Themselves and It Never Happened'."
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