Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Lois Riess/1
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- Result: No update from Tenpop421, so no consensus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
Spotchecks by myself and Cielquiparle have revealed significant integrity problems with the citations provided, in that they often do not verify the content they're attached to. A citation spotcheck does not appear to have been done in the GAR by 750h+. This was first discussed at the DYK nom for this article, where the nom was closed as a fail on these grounds. Further discussion with Afrowriter on the talk page hasn't resolved these issues to my satisfaction. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:08, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 For real, to your satisfaction? You can also make your statement and nomination without saying that, "I don’t edit Wikipedia to cater to your satisfaction, nor am I obligated to create articles for your approval. That said, every detail and piece of information in the article is supported by inline citations, and they align with every spot-check performed. If you believe something isn’t right, feel free to edit it yourself—I have better things to do than argue over this for weeks. Cheers, and happy editing! Afro 📢Talk! 19:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- That's quite alright, @Afrowriter:. I've said my piece and we can go our separate ways. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- The way you did put your message sounded like i am suppose to take permision from you before editing or publishing an article . @Tenpop421 Afro 📢Talk! 19:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't intend it like that, my apologies Tenpop421 (talk) 19:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 @Grumpylawnchair i have fixed and replace or supported the tagged sections with reliable source please confirm Afro 📢Talk! 13:02, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- The way you did put your message sounded like i am suppose to take permision from you before editing or publishing an article . @Tenpop421 Afro 📢Talk! 19:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- That's quite alright, @Afrowriter:. I've said my piece and we can go our separate ways. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
Comment: @Tenpop421: @Afrowriter: I added some unreliable source templates since it is not ideal to use infotainment sites for a BLP GA and Metro should not be used for BLPs, per WP:METRO. Grumpylawnchair (talk)
Spot checks
[edit]- Verification fails on the "Early life" section current version
- Footnotes 10, 11 do not verify
After completing high school,
; they say that she was 20 years old when they married David, nothing about her completing high school.Done
- Footnotes 12, 13, 14 do not verify
They raised three children
Done
- Footnote 15 verifies that she had a gambling addiction, but nothing about the timeline the article describes (i.e., that she had
a hobby that eventually escalated into a significant gambling addiction
)Done
- Footnote 16 does not verify
An audit uncovered specific transactions, including payments to a deceased relative, withdrawals for personal "guardian fees" totaling $8,500, and $15,000 allocated as supposed gifts to nieces and nephews
Done
- Footnote 17 does not verify
Although law enforcement considered criminal charges for felony theft, no prosecution followed at that time
or the date inInstead, a civil judgment was issued in 2017,
Done
- i.e., 9 out of 10 of the citations in the "Early life" section fail to verify some of the content they are attached to. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 Cross check when you are less busy Afro 📢Talk! 08:04, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work to verify these! I will when I have some free time. Tenpop421 (talk) 12:26, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. Spot checks look good to me now. I will get to the other sections when I can. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 Hello friend whats the update on this ? Afro 📢Talk! 12:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Afrowriter: I apologise, things have really gotten too busy recently. I should be able to get to this by this weekend. Apologies again, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 No problem take your time. Trust you are doing fine Afro 📢Talk! 16:57, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 Hello brother what's the update on this ? Afro 📢Talk! 07:24, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Afrowriter: I apologise, things have really gotten too busy recently. I should be able to get to this by this weekend. Apologies again, Tenpop421 (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 Hello friend whats the update on this ? Afro 📢Talk! 12:00, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. Spot checks look good to me now. I will get to the other sections when I can. Tenpop421 (talk) 19:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your work to verify these! I will when I have some free time. Tenpop421 (talk) 12:26, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Tenpop421 Cross check when you are less busy Afro 📢Talk! 08:04, 12 March 2025 (UTC)