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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
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55th Academy Awards (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 09:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating the 1983 Oscars for featured list because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 1929, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 ceremonies were written. Birdienest81talk 09:47, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
History6042
[edit]- Can all online sources be given archives.
- Unfortunately the archiving bot doesn't seem to be able to archive the sources obtained from Newspapers.com. For some reasons, it gives me a "502 BAD GATEWAY" error page everytime I attempt to do it. For comparison, when I ran the same tool just today for List of Los Angeles Rams starting quarterbacks, there was no errors running the tool. However, this shouldn't affect whether the resource is valid or not because say in the event Newspapers.com ceases to exist, the fact that the source came from credible newspaper (even if the publication doesn't exist in the present) means that any person probably has access to the source (whether it be in a library or electronic data that is accessible like say episodes of Sesame Street viewable by the public in the Library of Congress According to Wikipedia:Published, Additionally, an accessible copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the copy to be accessible via the Internet.
- There doesn't seem to be any inline citations for the Films with multiple nominations and awards section.
- Unfortunately, I can't find any sources online or even in print that can outright confirm "multiple wins and nominations". Also according to Wikipedia:Counting and sorting are not original research, it reads,
Being able to count and complete other basic mathematical analysis should not be impeded as well: 'Mario Cuomo served 12 years as governor of New York, from January 1, 1983 to December 31, 1994.' If you have the data stating that Mario Cuomo took office on January 1, 1983 and left December 31, 1994, there is no need to find another source that states he held the office for 12 years. You can count the number of years or otherwise complete basic calculations to arrive at a meaningful answer."
In addition, the policy reads,"Counting is a simple and widely accepted operation. Certainly sources exist to provide that information, but such sourcing would become clumsy and would detract from the article rather than add to it. Therefore, counting the number of items in a simple list or group of data is acceptable. It is not original research."
The only time citations are needed are if it is pertaining to the figures or data dealing with a large group such as the population of a given country. In this case, most people can implicitly count how many nominations and wins a film received based on the data given on the table.
- Unfortunately, I can't find any sources online or even in print that can outright confirm "multiple wins and nominations". Also according to Wikipedia:Counting and sorting are not original research, it reads,
- Alt texts should either be more descriptive or just say See caption. Right now the only new info is the year.
- I've added a bit more description which states what event the person was attending, if possible. According to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility/Alternative_text_for_images#Importance_of_context, alt text should not describe a person's clothes or appearance unless the photo appears in an article about fashion or about the person's style.
- The part that says "commonly referred to as Oscars", should be moved to right after the bolded text.
- Placing the phrase "commonly referred to as Oscars" wouldn't work because technically, that nickname only refers to the award itself. The ceremony was not referred to on the broadcast as "The Oscars" until 2013, and even then, the award itself is known as the "Academy Award for Merit". There was a lengthy discussion about the name discourse on Talk:Academy_Awards#Official_name. I don't think that phrasing it as
"The 55th Academy Awards ceremony, commonly known as the Oscars, was presented by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), honored films released in 1982, and took place on April 11, 1983, at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles."
would make sense as every edition of the ceremony would be different. That would sound clunky because then it would be hard to differentiate each ceremony. Also, you couldn't just say the 1983 Oscars because even though the ceremony took place in April 1983, the Academy determines it as winners for achievements in films released the previous year the ceremony took place.
- Placing the phrase "commonly referred to as Oscars" wouldn't work because technically, that nickname only refers to the award itself. The ceremony was not referred to on the broadcast as "The Oscars" until 2013, and even then, the award itself is known as the "Academy Award for Merit". There was a lengthy discussion about the name discourse on Talk:Academy_Awards#Official_name. I don't think that phrasing it as
- Not sure about the standard for this kind of table but should there be scopes on the Awards table.
- I don't know how that would work out on this type of table. Unless PresN knows of something how to do so.
- I have a tool/script installed to point out harv errors and warnings, it is showing on some of the ones in ref 13.
- As SounderBruce and jlwoodwa mentioned in a previous FLC, that is most likely a warning, which is displayed by the user script you installed, and which happen to be false positives here – caused by using multiple citation templates inside a single reference footnote, which is permitted by WP:BUNDLING and does not violate the featured list criteria.
- Ping when done. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @History6042: Done – I addressed all your comments. Please read each response since there was only one I could outright change while others I could not do so.
- --Birdienest81talk 21:23, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, support. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:25, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Vestrian24Bio
[edit]- Add a language variant template ({{Use American English}}).
- No copyvios.
- Based on link-dispenser,
- 1 ref that could be down is missing archive url.
- 18 refs need archive links.
- If iabot doesn't work, try archiving manually.
- Liza Minnelli's image is missing alt text.
- Could be better if the latest images could be replaced with images taken around 80s, so they would be contemporary to the event.
Vestrian24Bio 10:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @Vestrian24Bio: Done - I've read your comments and made changes based on them. However
- Not all the refs could be archived particularly especially the ones that come from actual physical books such as the ones from Wily & Bona, Osborne, and Kinn & Piazza. Some are available on the Internet Archive's Books to Borrow but I can't screenshot the pages and in some cases the book was made unavailable due to copyright restrictions by the publishers
- I tried to get images of the winners closest to the time of the ceremony, but some like Jessica Lange don't have great images closer to their win (her 1989 photos show only her side and not her full face in a visible position). Others like Ben Burtt and Dennis Muren have no images from the 70s or 80s.
- Otherwise, that's about it,
- --Birdienest81talk 10:16, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- All else seems good, Support. Vestrian24Bio 12:24, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- --Birdienest81talk 10:16, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
[edit]- "Matthau and Pryor hosted the gala time" - are there some words missing here?
- "Meanwhile, this was Minnelli and Moore's first hosting stints" => "Minnelli and Moore hosted for the first time"
- " Actor John Moschitta Jr. who was known for his fast talking delivery in commercials made an appearance" => " Actor John Moschitta Jr., who was known for his fast talking delivery in commercials, made an appearance"
- "Several members of the Naval Reserve Officers Training Corps from the University of Southern California made an appearance at the beginning of the performance of Best Original Song nominee "Up Where We Belong" from the film An Officer and a Gentleman[" - full stop is missing at the end
- "he criticized the decision to reward Gandhi the Best Picture award" - this doesn't seem to make grammatical sense. Maybe "he criticized the decision to reward Gandhi with the Best Picture award"
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:45, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Done - I've read your comments, and accordingly made corrections based off of them. Thank you for your feedback.
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 15:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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