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JDS Mirai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fictional ship. Pure plot summary, no WP:GNG. My BEFORE fails to find anything, and while I cannot search in Japanse I would be very, very surprised if such a niche topic had any sources in any language. Per WP:ATD-R, we can redirect this to Zipang (manga). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:57, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MENT Recording (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No one source that points to notability. Does not match WP:GNG and WP:ORG Pollia (talk) 18:10, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taishi Endo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Deleted before. Nowhere close to notable. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 21:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryoto Kamiya (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only played 777 minutes in Japan's third league, which is not a good claim to notability. Source eval: Gekisaka 1 and Soccer King are WP:ROUTINE, Nikkan Sports is a mention in a long list of names. Gekisaka 2 is better but more about his brother. Geschichte (talk) 08:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Mito HollyHock season (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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similar case to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Roasso Kumamoto season and other J2 League club season articles, all of which are unsourced, underdeveloped and overall just a mess. no evidence of notability either, but if there is good coverage and an editor willing to develop the article, they may as well start from scratch. Microwave Anarchist (talk) 12:18, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ryohei Nishiwaki (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Getting mere minutes of playtime in the Japanese leagues 25 years ago is not a strong claim to notability. The page would need significant and independent coverage about him as a footballer to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. The Japanese Wikipedia article contains one independent piece, which details criminal behaviour and a ban from coaching, maybe it’s better to let this WP:BLP go to rest. Geschichte (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hussam Nabil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable, only trivial mentions of the person in references DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:46, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak delete – Looks a case of WP:REFBOMB. As much as the subject has been mentioned in articles from reliable sources, there does not seem to be anything really significant that validates encyclopedic content about it. If complementary/academic sources appears, I change my vote. Svartner (talk) 02:41, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nagadai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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In this disambiguation page, none of the articles listed have titles related to "Nagadai". It is unclear why this page was created. ZyphorianNexus Talk 10:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. If a disambiguation page has nothing to do with the articles it contains, it need not exist. Eelipe (talk) 16:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at open AfDs, I am also nominating the following related pages because they follows the same format:

Fukudai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by me
Hirodai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by me
Kyukodai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), originally nominated by Miminity

Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating:

Shidai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Shindai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Aidai (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hokudai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Meidai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Based on my understanding, "dai" is the Japanese equivalent of saying "uni" instead of university, so these disambiguation pages are basically for "Naga uni". Given the double step from shortening to "Naga Uni" to the Japanese usage of "Nagadai", I do not think this is an appropriate disambiguation page for the English Wikipedia, but I'm happy to be corrected. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 05:09, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Not appropriate for English Wikipedia, I agree with Significa liberdade, Thanks for the ping. I reviewed it because it was just a disambiguation. I will keep this in my mind for future. Taabii (talk) 07:20, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • 九工大 (valid abbreviation in kanji [2]) is read as ききゅうこうだい / kyuukoudai not "kyukodai" so that's horribly mistitled. Delete as an obvious error. Sorry, closer, that's the last clear vote you're getting from me.
    広大/ひろだい/hirodai is used to refer to Hiroshima University and Hirosaki[3][4][5][6][7][8][9] in several English academic journals, websites, and books but the primary topic is doubtlessly the monotypic genus of parasites named for Hiroshima University.[10][11]. Given the fact that this one actually is apparently used in English, keep? But the genus is the primary topic, undoubtedly, so keep and retitle to encourage creation? Or maybe delete, then when the next UPE gaming AP makes the genus page, add a hatnote? Or temporarily redirect to Hiroshima, because my sources seem to indicate that's the primary topic of the two(at least in English, probably in Japanese too) and add a hatnote to it instead? and then replace
    Fukudai is actually a dab page at jaWiki under a kanji ja:福大, and two of the universities seems to actually use it in their English-language publishing [12][13] but also it has made its way over to English language publications as a fairly common species name, [14][15][16][17][18][19] presumably after one of the universities? (Anybody feel like finding some 1960s and 1970s Japanese entomology journals and finding out?) Also, it's mentioned (unsourced) at University of Fukui and Fukushima University. If a redirect was made from Fukudai to either of those, it would end up at RfD and the result would likely be disambiguate. So it's not unreasonable that somebody will be searching for the word "fukudai" in English, but at the same time, we can't list any of the species names.. but to make it even more complicated, I actually know the word Fukudai as a series of maths problems and methods for calculating determinants[20] pg 136, so it would probably be a valid redirect if we had an article on that method, which we should because it appears to pass the GNG in modern English-language sources, never mind earlier ones, but also it appears to be much more a partial match and therefore I give up and I regret doing a BEFORE because I am loosing my mind trying, and unfortunately succeeding in finding ways these might be useful. I'm probably going to end up with Oblivy on these. Also, RfDing any of these (except for the mistake and Nagadai bc I can't find that used in English in this context, and, believe me, I've looked) would doubtless result in a result to disambiguate.
    To the closer: I am sorry. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 08:00, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have any evidence at all that these strings are related to short forms of university names. Is it not vastly more likely for example that "Hirodai" is pseudo-Latin for a person called Hiroda? And fukudai (副題) is an ordinary word meaning "subtopic". Imaginatorium (talk) 19:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean, we're not a Japanese dictionary, so whether or not these are oridinary Japanese words or commonly used in Japanese isn't actually going to be a deciding factor. I'm looking for evidence that these words are used in English to refer to other the universities, or other topics. I've found that evidence for Fukudai, Hirodai, and Hokudai. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep after finding this on googling "Fukudai" and this at "Aidai". Both seem enough to justify a redirect, and if there are multiple potential redirects from the same term then we need a dab page. I haven't checked all the others, but having found two out of two suggests that these are probably all valid dab pages. PamD 09:44, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Also Hirodai here and here: both being used on English-language sites of the university itself. These aren't "non-notable nicknames" but are short forms used by the respective universities. These dab pages should be kept. PamD 09:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - not appropriate or needed for English-language Wikipedia. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 10:46, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep in most cases. I wouldn't agree that these are unlikely search terms in English. These abbreviations for universities show up fairly regularly in English translations of Japanese fiction - there are an awful lot of manga, anime and light novel stories set in high schools, so it's common for characters to talk about or visit universities. I'd go with Delete if there's no evidence that the abbreviation is correct (e.g. I'm not sure about one of the targets for Kyukodai as above), but otherwise it seems reasonable to have them as redirects or disambigs. Adam Sampson (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The question (obviously) is: what are these redirects for? How will they be used? And a valid answer would be that in some cases a reader has come across the contracted name of a Japanese university and wants to know about it. That is the plus; what is the minus? Well, when the reader comes across, perhaps "Tōdai", it is a romanisation of 東大, the short form of 東京大学. But a real dictionary (大辞林) lists five words with the reading 'tōdai', the first and most obvious being lighthouse (灯台), and including 東大 as the last. And of course, this is likely to get mangled as todai, some sort of mediaeval tax on paddyfields. So it gives a totally wrong impression that anything in Japanese that ended up as the string "todai" (more or less) refers to a university. See my comment above on the supposed insect names etc above. It also seems odd to start talking about reading fiction: if a novel translated from Polish talks about a "Reading University", how likely is it that this is actually distinguished from a "Writing University". Fundamentally Japanese has so many homophones that this sort of redirect is not reliable. The short forms are used very commonly, but only in appropriate context. Imaginatorium (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    supposed insect names I take issue with "supposed" here, as it implies I made them up. I found scientific papers about these insects under those names. They have been used. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, of course the insect names are correct, but they fairly obviously have nothing to do with the contractions used for university names. What is your evidence of "Fukudai" being used in English to refer to the university? Imaginatorium (talk) 03:48, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, did you get access to the old Japanese entomology journals then? I'm assuming the insects were most likely named after people called Fukudai (Like V. fukudai is) or after one of the universities. But, if you found the answer to then I suppose we'd better move on to that evidence you requested. Here you go! [21][22][23] GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 10:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Its the equivalent of an acronym in English - it’s basically… ok, so imagine that there were several universities which all used the acronym UCLA. UCLA is not the actual name of any of them, it’s the acronym, but anyone searching for one of them using the acronym is going to be confused by the fact there are several all using the same acronym. It’s that. Anyone searching for Nagadai hoping to get information about Nagaoka University is going to be confused if they get information about Nagano University, or in fact Nagasaki University, which is the other university I definitely know uses Nagadai as a completely normal acronym (I went to the uni down the road, but did stuff there). Absurdum4242 (talk) 04:25, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Based on this I have some follow-up comments. "U of W" is an English abbreviation, which makes it appropriate for the English Wikipedia. Thus, I think the question is whether Japanese-language abbreviations are appropriate. To determine that, I think it's worth seeing if a) these abbreviations are used in English materials and b) if we have other disambiguation pages for non-English shortenings. Another consideration is that we often keep non-English redirects if they relate to the target page, which would be the case here. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: Based on the discussion here it would appear that the critical question is whether the Japanese abbreviations are used at all in English: this question has yet to be answered substantively.
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Beyblade X season 1 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:REDUNFORK of List of Beyblade X episodes

Also nominating the second season for the same reason:

Beyblade X season 2 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. It's a redundant fork. There are only two seasons, so having both seasons only under List of Beyblade X episodes would be the wisest move. Eelipe (talk) 16:48, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 07:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings, Miminity! Just came to my notice today that both the articles were put on deletion. I have made few changes to the two articles. I also did some changes to this article, fearing it may fall under WP:REDUNFORK. Let me know your thoughts on it. Thank you and have a great day! VizDsouz (talk) 03:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Final relist.
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