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ANI

Hi Springee. At one point in your ANI filing, you use the word "antisymmetric/", where I assume you mean "antisemitic". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:07, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Also, "Philo" is probably a more reasonable shortening of the user name. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:11, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
D'oh! and D'oh! Springee (talk) 03:15, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Vizorblaze

Sorry, I was asleep. I've been meaning to look at that editor but just to busy elsewhere. Too big a watchlist. Absolutely unacceptable behavior. But Philomathes does seem to play down antisemitism. The Spotlight, Liberty Lobby, etc are almost defined by their antisemitic views and that should be made clear in their articles.. Bill Buckley, (a nice guy, I met him a couple of times) and National Review (which I disagree with but respect) were right in saying so. Yes, Spotlight was a lot about anti-globalism, a useful code word, that's all. In cases like these we should call a spade a spade. Doug Weller talk 09:36, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Doug. I didn't realize admins were allowed to sleep. Is that a new policy? ( :D )
I'm generally not familiar with any of those sources so I can't say for certain. I do think Wikipedia editors are, as a group, too quick to apply labels etc to things rather than laying out the evidence and letting readers see the obvious conclusions. I guess that's something that is easy to do when dealing with 1930s European facists but harder when dealing with topics that never got much coverage one way or the other. Looking into Philo's behavior I see an editor who is acting in good faith but is totally not reading the room. Once they have presumed themselves to be right they seem to assume the rules are on their side. Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_therapy might also apply here. I hope they will tone it down and understand wiki etiquette quickly. Take care! (courtesy ping @Doug Weller ) Springee (talk) 12:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I think labels are fine if they are well-sourced. And leads should contain labels where they are significant to the subject. Doug Weller talk 12:59, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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Contentious topic alert

Information icon You have recently made edits related to gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them. This is a standard message to inform you that gender-related disputes or controversies or people associated with them is a designated contentious topic. This message does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. Contentious topics are the successor to the former discretionary sanctions system, which you may be aware of. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see Wikipedia:Contentious topics. For a summary of difference between the former and new system, see WP:CTVSDS. ––FormalDude (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

FormalDude, no reason for this as it's already covered by my BLP and AP2 awareness tags at the top of the page. Springee (talk) 12:18, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Chloe Cole and TheTranarchist

I have started a discussion about TheTranarchist's editing. I would clean up the Chloe Cole article myself, but it seems pointless until the root issue has been dealt with. It may be better to just start over. Round and rounder (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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Moved your comment at ANI

Hey! just letting you know I moved the message you left at the transanarchist ANI out of the "asking for closure" section. I think it's a good idea to leave that section empty except for thetransanarchist's comment and comments about closing the discussion. My reasoning being that if everyone starts leaving a summary of their opinion there we'll probably be here for another two novels. :P --Licks-rocks (talk) 15:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

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What article?

You left me a message to go to the Talk page before reverting in an unnamed article. There are perhaps millions of Wikipedia articles. I may have reverted edits in thousands of them. Can you manage to be a bit more specific? Activist (talk) 16:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Springee. Thank you. ––FormalDude (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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Wow

Good day, mate. Have you never archived your talk page? That reminds me, I better do my own. starship.paint (exalt) 14:53, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

starship.paint, LOL! Yeah, I've been meaning to but I honestly haven't taken the effort to figure out how. Is there an easy guide that I need to find? Springee (talk) 13:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Wow! Thanks! I had no idea it was that easy! Springee (talk) 14:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Eh, I know how to do it manually. But I have forgotten how to do it automatically. starship.paint (exalt) 15:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
So you manually create each archive page? Does it automatically copy the dated content into each archive? Springee (talk) 15:01, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
I do it manually but there must be an automatic way, because article talk pages are automatic. See below. starship.paint (exalt) 15:03, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Oh, and you're welcome. I suspect automatic archives have something to do with User:Lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo. starship.paint (exalt) 15:01, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
There is also User:Technical 13/Scripts/OneClickArchiver if you want to manually archive threads. Works on article/user talk pages, noticeboards... starship.paint (exalt) 15:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
Oh and feel free to rearrange your archives as you see fit. I don't know what you prefer. starship.paint (exalt) 15:10, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
I don't have any preference. Honestly, being picky at this point would be like being mad that your neighbor organized your mess of a closet but didn't organize it the way you would have done it if you had done it any time in the last decade! I really appreciate the help! Springee (talk) 02:35, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Klete Keller

Hi if possible please keep an eye on the Klete Keller lead, a vandal is trying to revert it again. It has been proven multiple times "convicted felon" is a contentious label and not appropriate for a lead sentence. Thank You. 172.56.161.216 (talk) 14:22, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

ugh the vandal is at it again. what is wrong with this guy. you were even mentioned on his talk page under the topic "stop edit warring"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ws_sideman#Stop_edit_warring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Klete_Keller#Recent_block_of_TheWikiholic 109.68.162.161 (talk) 01:51, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

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Post truth politics

Why are you pinging someone from over 5 years ago that is not currently involved in this discussion? That seems a bit much ie WP:CANVASy. Let's try to be patient and work together there. DN (talk) 02:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

They posted the tag that was the subject of recent edits [1][2] Springee (talk) 02:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
True, but it was still over 5 years ago. I see you and Viriditas are having a tough time getting on the same page, but I don't see that as a reason for bringing in a currently uninvolved editor just because they might take your side. Call me crazy. DN (talk) 03:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
[3] Wait up, this looks like its from 2023. Is bigguyalien the editor you pinged? What am I missing here? DN (talk) 03:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

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Andy Ngo

This edit seems a bit beneath you. Please consider striking. Cheers. DN (talk) 01:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

DN, you are right and thanks for calling me out on that. I've changed it. My intent was to describe the result but that certainly could be viewed as a PA on an editor. I hope "crazy" makes it clear I'm referring to the result. I also appreciate that you reached out. Hope you are doing well my friend. Springee (talk) 01:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
I wanted to drop by to clarify what I meant when I mentioned the Hunter Biden laptop article. I assumed you were familiar with it, but I was clearly incorrect. It's a similar situation to the Ngo page, where there is a weak and challenged consensus. With the way the consensus works here sometimes you'll have to end up accepting article content you don't agree with. I'm sure you're familiar with that fact, at least. Sometimes the best thing to do is just let it go for a while.
At the very least you should try to back off long engagements with editors that you're not going to convince to your point of view. The chance of attracting uninvolved input decreases with every level of indentation in the discussion. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:39, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I assumed something like what you described but I generally stay away from those articles other than my one suggestion to err on the side of not including negative content about H Biden. I do wish more editors would err on the side of being charitable to the BLP subject as a mater of principle regardless of which side of the political fence they sit on. Springee (talk) 02:32, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, Springee. Thank you for your recent contributions to the discussion on the Lindsay page. Following your research on CM, you mentioned still being somewhat confused about the term. It's not surprising, given the significant disparities between OED and Wikipedia on the subject. Building on the sources you provided, I've initiated a new discussion on Talk:Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. I hope you will consider chiming in and letting me know if you find merit in the proposed changes. I value your input. XMcan (talk) 22:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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