User talk:Kiwinascarfan197

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Kiwinascarfan197, good luck, and have fun. Mr. Rasel Hasan (talk) 06:15, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:StuartLyndonPreliminary

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Stuart Lyndon (February 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines for sports persons and athletes). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that there are fewer sources than I would have liked, but this is the result of 40 years of lost media - I have a couple of newspaper clippings from other sources, but the thing is, the notability page says: "Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject [which I have], excluding database sources. Meeting this requirement alone does not indicate notability, but it does indicate that there are likely sufficient sources to merit a stand-alone article."

Furthermore, this is New Zealand's first NASCAR driver. New Zealand's first Formula 1 driver, Thomas Pitt Cholmondeley-Tapper, has an article consisting of seven (7) sentences and 4 sources.

Surely it doesn't help that he was killed at the young age of 35. The first NZ drivers in many motorsports lived long lives; Thomas Tapper (F1) was 90, Simon Crafar (MotoGP) is 56, so of course they would have more of a chance to be included in motorsport literature.

Lyndon was unfortunate enough to die in Atlanta on a day where most stock car fans were watching the NASCAR race at Riverside, CA. No footage was publicly available until 2019. Honestly, outright refusal is unfair when you consider the litany of drivers who have been approved pages:

Darryl Sage

Thomas Martin (racing driver)

Tommy Cloce

Or what about ARCA driver Francis Affleck who was killed earlier that same year? The sources for that page are similar to this one in terms of diversity.

I intend no hostility in making this appeal, I just don't see how this article is any problem at all. Kiwinascarfan197 (talk) 23:28, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Kiwinascarfan197! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 17:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]