User talk:Floquenbeam

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March music

New month: today is the birthday of Chopin and Ricardo Kanji, see my stories of today and yesterday, with dream music by the first and Bach played by the other. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the music, Gerda. (Did you mean to leave Feb 29, 2024 in there?) --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:39, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yes, in case I still want to get back to it in 2028, and it's such a brilliant piece --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:48, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today: Carmen turns 150, as the main page and my story tell you. I chose a 1962 concert of the Habanera, - enjoy! - A first: pictures go up to yesterday, - very inspiring! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) - because, as predicted, that hook wasn't changed further. More N., however, Template:Did you know nominations/Ana María Iriarte and Template:Did you know nominations/Simon Neal (baritone), arguments and tone. Better back to celebrating ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ps: After the festive meal pictured in places came a stroll with friends in Eltville, thinking of you! Too involved in conversations to take more pics there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today Rossini's latest "sin", as the main page has --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Crat

I did joke yesterday with some people that I sure have done a lot as a crat in 3 days for a job that was supposed to be no work. I do hope, however, that someone starts a discussion around "do we still need this role" rather than leaving it as a comment someone makes every few years when someone bothers to RfB. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I like having Crats. I might not be able to justify it with an airtight argument, I just like knowing ~~they're~~ you're there. So it won't be me starting the discussion. Floquenbeam (talk) 21:07, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that WP:Project WikiDOGE is going to start eliminating various user rights to see what might happen if no one does whatever it is that those rights are for. 28bytes (talk) 23:12, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What even is an edit filter manager? If we get rid of them we just have the edit filters tell us what they did this past week, and if an LLM isn't impressed we axe them too ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:23, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What the fuck is a template. Delete all pages that are templates. And template editors are all elitist. Block them all. Also, delete any articles that start with “div”, “eq”, or “incl”. Also, we’re taking over Fandom. Floquenbeam (talk) 00:23, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I actually suspect I like having Crats. I might not be able to justify it with an airtight argument, I just like knowing ~~they're~~ you're there is if not a consensus position at least one that is widely held enough to mean that there isn't consensus to eliminate them. It's why despite my own skepticism of the role I ran for it (I sent my self-nom to a few people and the most substantive feedback I got was to tone down my crat skepticism as a tangent to the actual discussion). And if, as I suspect, there is somewhat widespread support for the role that's good to know also. And to the extent that there is a divide it might point the way towards possible reforms - I know one person who would favor reconfirmation for crats in a way they never would for admins. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:53, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the problem I see is that I don't like the "non-crat" alternatives. Admins appointing and removing admin tools? No thanks - I've seen a single admin go rogue too many times, compromised or had enough - I don't want the ability well spread. Passing it to the stewards? Again, enough history that we like our project to be ours. So that leaves our barely used crats - and I think the solution there is "use them more". I get there's not a lot of RfAs, but hopefully they'll (you'll... we'll? No, I don't need that hat) be well involved in elections.

The big problem with crat's is the legacy issue - no reconfirmation means we have had crats who are 20+ years long in the tooth, and since each crat counts for a significant portion of the crat group, due to the small overall number. Worm^TT(talk) 16:32, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I probably have more trust in the Stewards than the average enwiki editor. So for me the big problem with passing to the Stewards crat responsibilities for +/- sysop and IA (I'd presume we would decide to bot flag locally) was the discrestion involved with some of our policies. But a Steward (accidently) reminded me that they evaluate consensus in their own elections so they could do so with ours. And the need for that is going to be less in an era of admin elections. But I agree that trust in the Stewards is not something universally shared and indeed in most instances I am of the opinion "when we can, we should do things ourselves" and the community not feeling that way would be a bit of a break with the past. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For me it's useful knowing there's a small group of people who can more or less be counted on to approach policy both thoughtfully and conservatively so I know who to ping when I wonder if I'm thinking too far outside the box. Valereee (talk) 17:25, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I suspect for a lot of people, Crats are much more important as a social construct than as people who technically have the ability to flip bits. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:20, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]