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Transgenders in the Holocaust

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On the talk page of Holocaust victims, there is a short discussion about transgenders in the Holocaust. (Talk:Holocaust victims#Add gender identity to the lead (along with sexual orientation). I requested evidence, and much to my surprise is was pointed at Transgender people in Nazi Germany, an article you started. I did not know a thing about that, and in my ignorance I have seen gender changes as difficult, lengthy medical procedures only rather recently performed. Clearly wrong.

Can you make an addition to Holocaust victims to reflect this? The Banner talk 16:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to participate in research

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Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of a group of Wikipedians to better understand their experiences! We are also looking to interview some survey respondents in more detail, and you will be eligible to receive a thank-you gift for the completion of an interview. The outcomes of this research will shape future work designed to improve on-wiki experiences.

We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this survey, which shouldn’t take more than 2-3 minutes. You may view its privacy statement here. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns. Kind regards, Sam Walton (talk) 16:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Eurowhiteness

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On 14 March 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eurowhiteness, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eurowhiteness disputes the belief that the European Union "stands for diversity, inclusion and openness"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eurowhiteness. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eurowhiteness), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hook update
Your hook reached 8,316 views (693.0 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talkcontribs) (he/it) 03:28, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Armenians rebelled in 1915, cont.

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Ottoman Armenians, of course, had to be far more circumspect if they sympathized with the Russian cause. This was only true, however, as long as they remained inside the empire. For this reason, thousands of Armenians, mostly Ottoman army deserters, began crossing over to Russian lines in August 1914, aided by Dashnak guerrillas familiar with the border areas. The Erzurum garrison alone hemorrhaged more than 50,000 deserters before Turkey even entered the war, most (but not all) of them Armenians, in part because soldiers had not been issued warm clothing (the first snows that year fell in September, foreshadowing the bitter winter to come) [...] The Turkish Consulate in Kars, for example, reported as early as July 1913 that Russian agents were smuggling weapons to Armenian rebels inside Turkey [...] Not being suicidal, the Erzurum Dashnaks and other Armenian partisans in the region, Adamov promised, “will not likely risk launching the uprising until the Russians are right on their doorstep” [...] A deputation of Ottoman Armenian rebel leaders from Zeytun, in the highlands north of Aleppo, reached Tiflis in mid-February 1915, claiming that they had 15,000 men ready to “pounce on Turkish [army] communications” if they received Russian arms and ammunition. Armenian rebels attacked an Ottoman weapons convoy and an army barracks in Zeytun in early April 1915, killing some five hundred Turkish soldiers before they (along with 20,000 Armenian civilians from Zeytun) were forced to flee into the mountains.

--Sean McMeekin, The Russian Origins of the First World War, pp. 154, 159, 164, 166

You requested a secondary source. Here it is. Sarımtrak (talk) 06:10, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you want an honest answer, the reason the article doesn't reflect this source is because McMeekin's views on the Armenian issue is in contrast to the vast majority of reliable, published sources—see wp:fringe. (t · c) buidhe 06:32, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How many sources do you need to bypass the fringe barrier? I can cite as many sources as you want. All of them show that the Armenians rebelled. Sarımtrak (talk) 06:44, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're not going to find the sources that you're looking for when we have many sources for the prevailing opinion in scholarly sources. But I'd argue that a bigger issue is how you are framing the problem. "The Armenians" are not a cohesive entity that can all "rebel" at once. Did Armenians rebel? Some did, most did not. However, to attribute the actions of some people to others in the same ethnic group is exactly how genocide happens, as we are seeing in Gaza. (t · c) buidhe 06:49, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where is your evidence that the prevailing opinion is that Armenian did not rebel? I can cite more sources for the Armenian rebellion than you can cite against it. What is happening in Gaza is not remotely related to the Armenian events. Turkey is not convicted of genocide, but Israel is being prosecuted in the ICJ. Sarımtrak (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Buidhe, I’ve blocked this one as part of a group of accounts harassing you. Let me or other checkusers/oversighters know if this continues. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 15:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Books & Bytes – Issue 67

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Eichmann trial article

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Hello,

I've taken a look at your contributions to GA articles in the Holocaust topic and I was wondering if you could help make the Eichmann trial article into a GA. I translated most of it from the Hebrew and Norwegian Wikipedias, but sadly due to my work schedule I do not have the time to do the work of turning it into a GA myself, otherwise I would. I'm impressed with the work you've already done on other articles in the topic. Please let me know if you are interested in helping out.

Thanks!

Gommeh (talk/contribs) 19:22, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a lot less active on wikipedia than I used to be, so no.
One thing the article is really missing is about the political role that the trial served, and the "Consequences and impact" section is missing some negative effects that have been attributed to the trial, imv. In contrast, I would trim some details about how Eichmann was abducted—arguably another article "Adolf Eichmann manhunt" could be spun off. (t · c) buidhe 00:47, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Understood. I've revamped the article since your last comment. Could you please clarify exactly which negative effects you think should be covered? Gommeh (talk/contribs) 14:12, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
GommehGaming101 sorry my comment was not particularly clear.
The article as it is begins suggests the rationale for the trial as self-evidently flowing from Eichmann's crimes. While no one reasonably doubts his guilt, there were specific reasons why the trial was held and publicized:

The Eichmann trial belonged to another category of prosecutions of political crimes, one in which a government aims at utilizing past crimes to build support and legitimacy for itself and invites the pop-ulation to identify with the victims.2 David Ben-Gurion, the prime minister of Israel, intended to use this trial to remind the world of the Holocaust, to teach the younger generation about the past, and to strengthen Zionist convictions.3 In order to do so, the whole history of Nazi persecution of Jews was to be displayed in court, with special emphasis on ideologically important episodes involving Jewish resis-tance and heroism. Many of these historical episodes had nothing to do with Eichmann.[1]

I realize you have a short section on the didactic purpose of the trial, but it's buried in the "prosecution" section rather than presented at the beginning as one of the main reasons it was held to begin with.
The prosecution section doesn't deal with criticisms of historical accuracy and selection of witnesses that were there for other reasons than to testify about the defendant's guilt[2]
The reactions section I would also rework into a section detailing legacy and effects. What were the effects of the trial on, for example, research and popular understanding of the Holocaust, Jewish society in Israel[3][4] and around the world, relations between Israel and other countries? That's not really covered either. I apologize for my wording in the previous comment, it's not usually helpful to think of effects in terms of positive and negative.
You linked to the Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law, which I did write and I think it does a better job of covering the historical context rather than getting too lost in the details. There is also so much written about this trial that I don't see the need for citing news reports and the trial itself. Its easier to misrepresent primary sources and if info is not covered in the voluminous scholarly literature it's surely undue. (t · c) buidhe 00:54, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chapeau

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Hi @Buidhe - it's surprisingly difficult to write this, because I'm struggling to find the correct words and phrasing. RfA is a somewhat anxiety inducing process, especially at the very beginning when it goes live. Having watched RfAs over the last six or seven years, I'm often surprised how quickly they can "turn". I would just like to personally acknowledge your responses in the RfA, not to say I agree with them, but because ... this is what I am struggling to write properly ... they demonstrated a confidence in and defence of my abilities to be an admin. Of course, everyone's support is important, but when it's an editor whose work one is very familiar with, one who has shown long-standing dedication to this project, one who I hold in very high regard, and one who works with precision in areas that truly require it given the contemporary world, that's why they meant a lot to me. I have no doubt you have a long list of people who stand ready to help you if you need it at some point, please add me to it. With gratitude and in kindness, Goldsztajn (talk) 23:12, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spoken version of "Armenian genocide"

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I'm considering creating a spoken version of the article "Armenian genocide," which you improved to featured article status 3 years ago now. As it is both a vital and featured article, and also because the 110th memorial day of the genocide is next month, I believe it would be a very good article to record. I'd just like to ask you if you consider the article as it is currently to be fit for a spoken recording, or if you first have to perform some edits or reforms of the article. ―Howard🌽33 06:30, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Howardcorn33 It's a FA and no edits are planned. (t · c) buidhe 07:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]