User talk:Clovermoss
|
||||||||||||||
Newbie Central
[edit]Are you a newcomer to Wikipedia? Here are some resources that you may find helpful:
- There's this video that explains some of the basics of how Wikipedia works. It's aimed more towards readers than editors, but it can give a decent foundation of some things to be aware of before you start editing. This video by an experienced Wikipedian provides more substantial advice. There is also this series.
- The Wikipedia Adventure. This is a very basic (and somewhat eccentric) editing tutorial.
- Do you have a conflict-of-interest? Read this guide. It's also important to be aware of an ongoing scam.
- Category:All stub articles which is organized alphabetically and by topic. All these articles could be expanded!
- This is a tutorial for what to know if you wanted to create an article. Our guideline on what is notable for inclusion on the site is a crucial part of this process.
- Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch – advice on phrasing to avoid when editing
- This page is a glossary of different terms used on Wikipedia that can help you understand what people are talking about if you come across an unfamiliar acronym.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory – this is a list of wikiprojects. Some are way more active than others but it's a decent way to try and find groups of articles that match your interests. I'm particularly fond of Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada and the associated challenge for improving articles.
- This is the perennial sources list, which can be helpful if you're not sure if something is a reliable source. If it's not on this list and you have concerns, try this noticeboard.
- If you are in a disagreement with another editor, you can try asking for a third opinion. There are also other processes for dispute resolution.
Life update
[edit]A lot of people expressed concern for me when I decided to take a wikibreak of indeterminate length about two months ago. I appreciate the well wishes I was given back then. I'm in a much better place than I was and I hope to keep things that way. Part of what made it so bad was experiencing horrific side effects from a medication that was supposed to help make things better (I'll spare the details on just how horrific they were). That's not to say that I think I acted irrationally (I'm myself even when my life falls to shambles), everything was just a lot more intense than it usually is for me.
I knew this back then, hence the break. It's important to take care of myself first instead of dedicating so much of myself to people who don't always appreciate me in return. Unfortunately, there's not much use in dwelling on that. I know that I did everything I could under the circumstances. All that's left to say is that my talk page is always open if the person in question ever feels like writing me an actual apology.
Anyways, there is a silver lining in that recent events became a tipping point that forced my re-evaluate my relationship with Wikipedia. I've disabled push notifications on my phone that were connected to my Wikipedia email, I've stopped compulsively checking every change on my watchlist, and I've been trying my best to improve my self esteem. I've also been spending more time doing other hobbies that I enjoy. I'm working full time now in circumstances that involve spotty wifi so between all those factors, I'm probably still going to be around less often for the forseeable future. But I just wanted to let people know that I am doing relatively okay now. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm glad to hear it! I think you are making very good decisions. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:22, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- +1. You're always welcome to reach out if you need anything, or just for a chat if you don't. But sometimes soace is healthy. It's easy for something like Wikipedia to take over your life, and for it to feel like your whole life is going to shit if things on WP take a downturn. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
JW Singleness
[edit]You deleted it from the Talk page and I won't restore it there. However, for context, the part Willietell removed gave context which could possibly have been supported by sources. But what he left behind was simply "Some Jehovah's Witnesses remain single by choice", which is entirely mundane and could be true of anyone. Either the full statement should be there, or not there at all. There's no need to say that some JWs do what anyone might do.--Jeffro77 Talk 06:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Jeffro77: Fair enough. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Hershkathy (16:33, 8 April 2025)
[edit]Wow. This is not easy! I added a paragraph to the entry on the author James A. Michener referencing a documentary about him which I produced entitled Michener at Work. I was advised that I needed to cite a reference. I tried to edit the piece citing the URL link to where the documentary is available to view online on the Vimeo website. I'm not sure if I succeeded or not. Is there a way you can check and let me know? I am not technological adept!!! Thanks, Kathy --Hershkathy (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Hershkathy: Hi Kathy. So there is a general guide to citing sources here that you may wish to read, but the specific template you'd probably want to use here is
{{cite audiovisual media}}
. In practice, it looks something like this: [1]. It looks like I forgot the timestamp there (will fix that soon now that I'm aware of it), but it's especially important to include it in something that's documentary-length, so someone can verify the content in question if they wish. I'd be careful about linking to Vimeo because it is often has content that is not properly licensed and is thus a copyright violation. It's fine to just include other parameters like the name of the film etc. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:06, 8 April 2025 (UTC)- I also just noticed that you mentioned
documentary that I produced
, so make sure that such content qualifies as a reliable source under our guidelines. For example, if you're not a professional filmmaker, it's not likely to meet the aforementioned standards. Please also read WP:SELFCITE. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- I also just noticed that you mentioned
Hello. How do I create a Wikipedia page? --NYSEditor (talk) 22:59, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Hi NYSEditor. I am not Clovermoss, but here is a tutorial for what to know if you want to create an article. You'll want to be aware of our guideline on what is notable for inclusion on Wikipedia, as this is a crucial part of this process. PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke) 00:24, 9 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from ABoucabeille (20:09, 10 April 2025)
[edit]I would like to start with several articles but also write one about myself. --ABoucabeille (talk) 20:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi ABoucabeille. When planning to start an article, it's a good idea to understand what Wikipedia's guidelines for notable inclusions are. Generally what you're looking for is three reliable sources that discuss a subject in detail (not passing mentions). There are additional things to keep in mind when editing with a COI in particular, please read this guide. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:14, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Ronald Schell (19:27, 12 April 2025)
[edit]Hello. I am a retired Pro Wrestler. I have probable CTE. I what to create and help others with Wikipedia pages. I want to make a page for me wrestling persona and contribute to others with knowledge I have about Wrestling and Wrestlers. --Ronald Schell (talk) 19:27, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ronald Schell: Please read this guide about contributing with a COI. It's generally better to start editing in other areas at first because it can help with getting a better understanding of neutral writing and what reliable sources are. If you're interested in creating an article, you should aim for three reliable sources that discuss the subject in detail. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Ronald Schell: You might also be interested in participating in Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestling. Wikiprojects are topic areas where multiple editors collaborate together to improve the subject's coverage on Wikipedia. Some are more active than others. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:49, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Michaeltodd1970 (23:50, 12 April 2025)
[edit]Hello Hannah, I would like to start a new entry. When I signed up I said as much and was told I needed to add to and/or edit what already exists (which is fine by me). When I'm ready and able, how do I go about creating a new entry? --Michaeltodd1970 (talk) 23:50, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Michaeltodd1970, this guide gives pretty detailed advice about what to consider when creating an article. I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:47, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from MattyWhatty (10:47, 14 April 2025)
[edit]Hi, i'm MattyWhatty. Do I have to necessarily edit or fix Wikipedia pages? --MattyWhatty (talk) 10:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- @MattyWhatty: No one can force you to edit, you can just read if you would like. :) I'll leave some links on your talk page that may be helpful if you ever decide to dip your toes into editing, though. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 12:15, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
Wikimedia Apps newsletter – First quarter of 2025
[edit]
Hello, and welcome to the first newsletter of 2025! In this edition, we’ll walk you through the exciting updates, experiments, and improvements made to the Wikipedia mobile apps during December, January, and February.
iOS
[edit]Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review
We released the improved version of the Year in Review to all users, now available in multiple languages and for both logged-in and logged-out users. While donation rates were lower than our goal, we saw great engagement with the feature & it brought in a higher share of first-time donors and a higher average donation compared to banner campaigns.
Notably:
- 97.4% of survey respondents rated the experience as neutral or better.
- We saw a 74% increase in new accounts, with 368 new editors actively contributing as a result.
- Most users asked for more personalized stats and a better summary of their reading journey.
We’re excited by the results and are already thinking ahead about how to improve it further next year. Want more details? You can check out the full analysis on the project page on MediaWiki.
Alt Text Experiment Wrap-Up
Our 60-day alternative text experiment has ended. While users showed interest in the task, quality was a challenge—especially for newcomers. The experiment helped us understand how we can guide editors better when writing alt text and which improvements to focus on next.
Some key takeaways:
- Completion rates were decent (28% for newer editors), but the quality of the alternative text needed improvement.
- Many users wanted clearer guidance and better context for writing alt text.
- Many users expressed interest in a dedicated feed for image-related tasks.
We’re not making the alternative text suggested edit permanent at this time. If we decided to focus on this task again, we would invest in improved guidance for writing alternative text, and make improvements to the user flow.
We made significant progress in refreshing the app’s navigation. Highlights include:
- A more native iOS feel with system-standard navigation bars.
- New access points for the Profile menu across multiple screens.
- Ongoing A/B testing of a more prominent search bar in articles, available in Arabic, French, German, and Japanese.
We also began tracking where article views come from (e.g., from Places, History, or Explore), which will help us understand user behavior better.
Tabbed Browsing Begins
We kicked off discovery and design work for adding tabs to the iOS app—one of the most requested features! Based on user feedback and inspiration from other apps, we’ve created a prototype and started user testing. Stay tuned as this exciting feature continues to evolve!
Bug Fixes & Developer Contributions
Thanks to volunteer contributions and internal efforts, we fixed several bugs including:
- Search results overlapping with the status bar.
- Crashes while editing specific articles.
- Incorrect day shown in “In the News.”
- Improved handling of italics and language variants.
Android
[edit]We released the Wikipedia Game to production in German Wikipedia and began work on WikiTrivia using “On this day” content. User feedback from initial testing is helping shape both features.
Private Donor Recognition Experiment
We wrapped up our donor recognition experiment in France and the Netherlands. While overall donations were lower than expected, user feedback was clear:
- 81% of surveyed users want the dashboard to exist on multiple platforms.
- 39% of users who saw the donor icon feature chose to personalize their app icon.
- Many users prefer automatic updates to their donor stats without manual input.
Rabbit Holes
To improve reader retention, we tested two approaches: suggested articles in search and personalized reading lists. Results showed strong engagement:
- 93.3% of feedback was positive or neutral.
- Pageviews were significantly higher for users who engaged with the feature.
- Users preferred reading lists over suggested search results.
We've started migrating our Android layouts to Jetpack Compose to modernize the app and improve performance long-term.
Other Fixes & Enhancements
- Fixed bugs related to offline article loading, push notifications, and language variants.
- Enhanced language support in captions and local language display.
Looking Ahead
From improving editing tasks to adding new ways to discover content and expanding personalization—this quarter was packed with learning and progress. Your feedback continues to shape where we go next.
Make sure you’re subscribe to this newsletter to stay in the loop, and thank you for being a part of this journey with us!
~~ARamadan-WMF07:49, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Rajasabh7788 (13:25, 16 April 2025)
[edit]Hi , hope you are doing well , I had found an page with incomplete information and unreliable sources and want edit it , I want to know how can I edit it as it is a semi protected page . --Rajasabh7788 (talk) 13:25, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rajasabh7788: If you want to request your edit be made now, you can use this process. Alternatively, you could wait until your account is at least four days old and you've made ten edits to edit the article directly. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 15:38, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you Rajasabh7788 (talk) 15:59, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Hello! I am wanting to edit the page for United Community Bank. This page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Community_Bank
I currently work for this company as a PR & Social Media Specialist. Just wanting to properly disclose my affiliation with the company. Any help in denoting that is appreciated as I don't want to upset anyone at Wikipedia before updating the information on the United Community Bank page. --Mr JFlow (talk) 14:36, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- I have disclosed my relationship on my userpage. Does that check the box for proper disclosure or do I need to do more before attempting to edit the page? Mr JFlow (talk) 14:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Mr JFlow, there's a guide for managing a conflict of interst that you should read. Edits made by paid editors undergo additional scrutiny. I suggest that any edits you'd wish to make are requested on the talk page. An easy way to do that is to use this. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! I will more than likely go the route of that form in the near future. Appreciate your time and sharing those resources! Mr JFlow (talk) 14:52, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Mr JFlow, there's a guide for managing a conflict of interst that you should read. Edits made by paid editors undergo additional scrutiny. I suggest that any edits you'd wish to make are requested on the talk page. An easy way to do that is to use this. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:49, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Rajasabh7788 (02:52, 18 April 2025)
[edit]Hi , I want to add a photo in a page but unable because I am blocked from wiki commans,I haven't use the page yet. For the first time I am going to upload an image in an article. please guide me in the following. --Rajasabh7788 (talk) 02:52, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Rajasabh7788, I went to Wikimedia Commons to see if you had any edits that weren't deleted (I wouldn't be able to see deleted ones on that project because I'm not an admin there) or a message left on your talk page that might hint at the reasons for deletion. But when I typed your username in at Special:Contributions, it said you're not registered on that wiki, which shouldn't happen if you've visited the site with this account (as far as I'm aware). This leads me to wonder if you're actually blocked? But it would help if I had some more information about the type of image you were trying to upload. The most common issue that people run into is not understanding how restrictive copyright is. The images I upload on Commons are photographs I've taken myself (my own work). You can't upload someone else's there unless they've released it under a free license. There are some non free content files you can upload directly to Wikipedia, though. I've done that a few times for book covers to be able to be displayed in the articles about them. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:00, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, actually I want to update a poster of a movie page and haven't selected any picture yet because I can't login. It's actually confusing and funny at the same time because when i turn my desktop view ON in the tablet it shows "The provided authentication token is either expired or invalid."and as soon I turn it off, my homepage is opened(of wikipedia.org). I think the problem is somewhere else. Rajasabh7788 (talk) 03:07, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rajasabh7788: I'm a bit confused on how to best respond to this for now so I'm going to ask around and hopefully get back to you (or find someone who will do so themselves). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:06, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- OK, Thanks for acknowledging my Doubt Rajasabh7788 (talk) 05:10, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rajasabh7788: so my impressions after asking some other editors I know is that this is either a case of your IP address being blocked on Commons or you are attempting to overwrite an existing file, which new users cannot do. You should still be registered on the wiki either way, but what you're explaining with the "expired token" and mobile might be some sort of technical bug. Unfortunately, the mobile version of the site is known for having some issues (see Wikipedia:Mobile communication bugs).
- In any case, since you're trying to upload a file that is a movie poster, that would not be your own work and should uploaded directly to Wikipedia using the non-free content criteria I mentioned earlier. You should be able to do so by using the Wikipedia:File upload wizard and clicking "upload a non-free file". Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:28, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks 😊 Rajasabh7788 (talk) 03:51, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- OK, Thanks for acknowledging my Doubt Rajasabh7788 (talk) 05:10, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Rajasabh7788: I'm a bit confused on how to best respond to this for now so I'm going to ask around and hopefully get back to you (or find someone who will do so themselves). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 05:06, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, actually I want to update a poster of a movie page and haven't selected any picture yet because I can't login. It's actually confusing and funny at the same time because when i turn my desktop view ON in the tablet it shows "The provided authentication token is either expired or invalid."and as soon I turn it off, my homepage is opened(of wikipedia.org). I think the problem is somewhere else. Rajasabh7788 (talk) 03:07, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Andrew Geoffrey Kwabena Moss (06:41, 18 April 2025)
[edit]When will my article be published? --Andrew Geoffrey Kwabena Moss (talk) 06:41, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Andrew Geoffrey Kwabena Moss, it looks like you created a userpage and not an article draft. That said, if that was submitted as a draft, it would be very unlikely that someone would accept it. Wikipedia has guidelines on when someone is considered notable (the general idea is three reliable sources that cover you in significant detail and are not connected to you). If that coverage doesn't exist, then an article draft wouldn't be accepted. If you think that it does and would like to keep trying, please read this guide. Articles also need to be written in a neutral way – unfortunately, your userpage reads like a resume instead. Pages like that are often deleted. Let me know if you have any further questions. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
My edit to Euthanasia in Canada
[edit]Hi! I think you might've misread part of the edit that you reverted. I was changing the "i" from lowercase to uppercase, not the other way around.
Also, I added the {{ambiguous}} because I was at first confused by the sentence myself and had to look at the cited article to be certain which one was being referred to. I assumed that the person a doctor would be speaking to about applying for MAID would be the one it might eventually be applied to (especially since from young woman
it (correctly) appeared that both people mentioned were adults). I still think that sentence needs to be reworded. 2A00:807:D3:B2CD:3407:E484:F58E:7D1F (talk) 04:42, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you mean about the uppercase. I definitely did misread that. I still don't think the one sentence is ambiguous but feel free to adjust the phrasing yourself if you think there's a way that it could be made clearer. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:46, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- That said, if you still think it's confusing, I won't edit war with you if you wish for the tag to be reinstated. I was hoping that it was one of those things where sometimes things don't make sense at first and then they do once you reread it. But that's unlikely to be the case if you still think the phrasing is ambiguous even now. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 14:23, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Seafarers' Union
[edit]Hello,
Saw this diff on your page and wanted to ask if you have recently taken up a water-related job? No obligation to answer of course, but I am curious as to what you do on the water, if anything.
JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 06:39, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @JuxtaposedJacob: Yes, I work (and live) on a ship. I started working on the certifications I needed to join the union last summer (Marine Basic First Aid, Basic Safety, Proficiency in Survivalcraft) and didn't finish until the fall. Maritime work is somewhat seasonal so I wasn't actually able to get a job until this March but I was lucky in landing a permanent position right at the start. I'm not really comfortable giving more detail than that at the moment but I hope that satisfies your curiousity. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, interesting, thank you! JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 11:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 7
[edit]
Upcoming and current events and conversations
Let's Talk continues
- Annual Planning and global trends: Join one of the many conversations happening over April and May about how Wikimedians around the world are responding to global trends and help shape the Foundation's annual plan.
- CEE Catchup: Join the upcoming global trends workshop for the CEE communities organized together with the CEE Hub on April 23 at 16:00 UTC, to discuss AI, NPOV, Wikimedia communities and more.
- Neutral point of view: More information and an update about the work to strengthen Wikipedia's neutral point of view.
- Wiki Workshop 2025: Register for the 12th annual Wiki Workshop taking place on May 21–22. It brings together researchers and scholars from around the globe who are interested in or actively engaged in research and development on Wikimedia projects.
- Learning Clinic: The upcoming Let’s Connect Learning Clinic is focusing on "Understanding and Navigating Conflict in Wikimedia Projects (Part 1)" and will take place on April 29 at 14:30 UTC.
- Community Resilience and Sustainability: Quarterly Conversation hour taking place on April 24 at 18:00 UTC to discuss Trust and Safety, the Universal Code of Conduct, Committee Support, and Human Rights.
- Wikimedia Hackathon: The Wikimedia Hackathon 2025 will take place on May 2–4.
Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Web · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org
- Wikifunctions: Wikifunctions is now integrated with Dagbani Wikipedia. It is the first Wikimedia project that will be able to call and integrate functions directly into Wikipedia articles. Read more weekly updates on Wikifunctions.
- Edge Uniques: Introducing Edge Uniques, a technical approach which consists of privacy-preserving first-party cookies that will enable usability testing of features through A/B testing, more accurate counting of site visits, and a way to stop distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) with better precision.
- Tech News: The Design System Team is preparing to release the next major version of Codex (v2.0.0) on April 29; Last week, the default thumbnail size was increased from 220px to 250px. This changes how pages are shown in all wikis and has been requested by some communities for many years, but wasn’t previously possible due to technical limitations. More updates from Tech News week 15 and 16.
- Outreachy: Celebrating the excellent contributions from both interns and mentors in Round 29 of the Outreachy internship program.
- Developer Satisfaction Survey: The results of the Developer Satisfaction Survey (2025) are available. Thank you to all participants. These results help the Foundation decide what to work on next and to review what they recently worked on.
Annual Goals Progress on Knowledge Equity
See also a list of all movement events: on Meta-Wiki · WikiLearn
- Wiki Loves Monuments: Celebrating the winners of Wiki Loves Monuments 2024.
- Wikimedia Research Showcase: Watch the latest research showcase featuring the theme of "Motivation of Wikipedia Editors".
Annual Goals Progress on Safety & Integrity
See also blogs: Global Advocacy blog · Global Advocacy Newsletter · Policy blog
- Digital Rights: Wikimedians leading conversations at the Digital Rights and Inclusion Forum 2025 (DRIF25).
- Community Resilience: To better support community members when they are facing challenges while contributing to Wikimedia projects, the Trust and Safety team worked with the Arbitration Committees to create Project Maps of communities.
- RightsCon 2025: Key takeaways on advocacy and inclusion.
Other Movement curated newsletters & news
See also: Diff blog · Goings-on · Planet Wikimedia · Signpost (en) · Kurier (de) · Actualités du Wiktionnaire (fr) · Regards sur l’actualité de la Wikimedia (fr) · Wikimag (fr) · Education · GLAM · The Wikipedia Library · Milestones · Wikidata · Central and Eastern Europe · other newsletters
Subscribe or unsubscribe · Help translate
For information about the Bulletin and to read previous editions, see the project page on Meta-Wiki. Let askcacwikimedia.org know if you have any feedback or suggestions for improvement!
MediaWiki message delivery 17:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
New pages patrol May 2025 Backlog drive
[edit]May 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol | ![]() |
| |
You're receiving this message because you are a new page patroller. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. |
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi Hannah 👋 i would just like to say hi 👋 --PARAFLIP (talk) 21:54, 24 April 2025 (UTC)