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Proper AfC Draft:Eric_Gilbertson_(climber)

Hey @Cabrils,

It's been a while. Figured I'd give you a ping about this.

I've since learned my lesson on how not to edit on Wikipedia, especially with the COI. It's been about a month since the article was deleted, but I saved a copy of the Eric Gilbertson article in my userspace prior to its deletion. I recently submitted a reworked draft of the article to AfC, having done my best to reduce fluff and self-published sources (i.e: the table is gone, information only verifiable through his blog is gone, and the blog is only referenced once which can be removed if needed). Also, ExplorersWeb, an unreliable source, has been entirely removed from the draft.

Many of the sources are independent of him (i.e: Nat Geo Poland, The Times of London, BBC, and Sueddeutsche Zeitung). Other sources, such as "The Line" on the American Alpine Club journal appear to have taken excerpts from Eric's writing but have been written by someone else. See WikiProject Climbing's climber notability.

Given his coverage between the Rainier survey and sources mentioned above (among others) do you still think he's WP:TOOSOON? Taking in the suggestions of the AfD discussion, not all coverage on him appears to be purely interviews.

Given my COI, I will not be the one to move the article to the mainspace should it be accepted by reviewers. If it is moved to the mainspace, I will also refrain from doing direct edits and would only suggest them through the talk page.

If you get a chance and are willing, I'm happy to hear feedback. I have learned my lesson and will not do any disruptive edits. I know last time I did things the wrong way, but want to do things right this time around.

Cheers and thank you for your time! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 16:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

That sounds like good progress and appreciate your willingness to learn.

I will have a look and come back to you (likely in the next week or so). Cabrils (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Cabrils! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:36, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KnowledgeIsPower9281,

I've had a look at the current (revised) draft and I'm happy we keep developing this to see if we can get it across the line.

The draft is looking much more palatable, so I think it's now in a position to wrestle with the actual requirements. To do so:

1. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject.

2. It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:ANYBIO criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Also, it would be good to move our discussion to the draft's talk page, for greater visibility for all reviewers, so moving forward let's communicate there.

Thanks Cabrils (talk) 00:11, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback Cabrils! Doing WP:THREE and the page's met criteria now. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just finished! KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 01:08, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@KnowledgeIsPower9281,

Apologies for such a tardy reply.

I think the revised draft looks good, and have commented on it, seeking the opinion of DJ Cane who nominated the previous version of the page for deletion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Gilbertson (climber)). Cabrils (talk) 01:21, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion provided. Thanks for the ping. I'm happy to collaborate with this project further if needed and/or desired. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 15:44, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @DJ Cane and @Cabrils! We'll keep working on this draft to get it ready for the mainspace and come to a consensus on what should and shouldn't be included! I guess the best place to collaborate would be the draft talk page? KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 15:56, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good one. Yes, the Talk page of the draft is the best place. Cabrils (talk) 22:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Cabrils and @DJ Cane, just created the topic thread on the draft talk page. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 13:45, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Neshe

You previously mentioned on a draft that you would reassess it when resubmitted. Draft:Neshe has been resubmitted. If you do not with to review it again, let me know and I will. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for my belated reply. I see the page has already been accepted. Well done, all the best. Cabrils (talk) 04:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Robert Morrison (artist)

Hello, I am in the process of editing the article on Robert Morrison, but I wanted to point to the Draft_talk:Robert_Morrison_(artist) for my responses to the concerns you raised after reading the article. Thank you! "HardyBoy3 (talk) 23:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)"[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

Thanks for your helpful comments on the Talk page of the draft.

Could you please address, as requested in my comment on the draft (see my instructions there for how to correctly do this), whether you have a conflict of interest? I think by inference from your remarks that you don't, but some express clarification would accelerate the process. Thanks. Cabrils (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the quick response! I have added a COI notice on the talk page of the draft. Not sure if this is what you are asking for. I've also added a COI/advocacy statement onto my user talk page. Let me know your thoughts when you can. HardyBoy3 (talk) 13:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing that.

I've reread the draft and I think it looks good now and meets the requirements. Please feel free to submit it and ping me and I would be happy to accept it. Cabrils (talk) 00:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help with all this. I have resubmitted. HardyBoy3 (talk) 13:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article accepted. Well done, appreciate your willingness to take on feedback and collaborate. Cabrils (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your support in fine turning the details. HardyBoy3 (talk) 14:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Gabriele_Scheler

Could you say what is wrong with it now? 79.250.56.138 (talk) 23:20, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft still fails to address all of the issues raised in my original comment. Cabrils (talk) 00:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Hereditary Witch

Hello, Cabrils,

You tagged this draft article several hours too early for a CSD G13 so I had to untag it and we need to wait another 6 months before it is eligible again for G13 speedy deletion. We work from a bot-created list that knows exactly when drafts are eligible for CSD G13 so please do not tag drafts and sandboxes prematurely or it just delays their deletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry!! I'm on Australian time zone, so thought it was 6 months and 1 day. My mistake, thanks for explaining. Cabrils (talk) 03:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ping_Post

Thanks Cabrils for the detailed feedback on the Ping Post Article, it is much appreciated . I went through and made some changes, figured out where the talk page was (I has missed this before) and added a disclosure about my connection to industry as well as three notable sources to help speed up the vetting. I also make edits to the page in line with your comments. I would like to resubmit if this has gotten the article up to WP guidelines. Kingnap (talk) 17:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

In short, the page is still a fair way from meeting the relevant criteria, including WP:GNG.

Please take some time to peruse my Comment, and the many links I included therein, especially ‘Your First Article’. You need to address all those issues I raise. All the best with it. Cabrils (talk) 23:42, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cabrils, I did go through your comments and the issues raised, the articles cover many subtopics so I want to make sure I am hitting the most relevant issues. It seems like the notable point seems to be a major sticking point. I am fairly new at creating wikipedia articles but it would be very helpful if you could give me a little more guidance on what in your opinion would show the article is notable. If you don't think there is really anything that will bring this topic to that level that would also be good feedback so I can reevaluate if Wikipedia is really the best place for me to start my journey writing about marketing topics. Thank you and best regards KN Kingnap (talk) 17:45, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notability is a fundamental principle here.

I can't really speak to the topic per se, but presently, frankly, the article feels like a promotional piece you have been paid to write as a marketing or advertising vehicle to promote the businesses included. Whether or not that is true, that is the impression I have. None of the links included to standardinformion.com, federal trade commission, patents.justia.com etc contribute towards notability, and most of them should be removed as being unreliable sources (as defined), creating significant problems for the article insofar as meeting the relevant criteria.

I can say that Wikipedia is certainly not "the best place for [you] to start [your] journey writing about marketing topics". Cabrils (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Understood and thanks for the candid feedback. A bit disappointing to hear but better to get the feedback upfront before investing more time into something that is not going to be helpful. Hopefully someone else will pick up the topic eventually. Kingnap (talk) 14:55, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Cameron Stewart (journalist)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:07, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Juliet Vickery

Thanks for your comments on this article. I have tried to address them and have added details on the talk page - I hope the notability is clearer now. I've added a few more citations where I can find them, and have removed some others. There are a few that are still in professional organisation posts though, which might not be ideal - I'm lacking any more source information for these things though. Do we just delete them, even if helpful? Any advice welcome. Cmbird1 Cmbird1 (talk) 19:07, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I see you made good revisions the draft and it has now been accepted. Well done! Cabrils (talk) 10:07, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lawrie_Mifflin

Draft:Lawrie Mifflin

Hello Cabrils! I made some updates to my page on Lawrie Mifflin. At your convenience, are you able to take a look? I added more notable sources and inserted them within the text. Thank you! BoolaBulldog (talk) 17:22, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BoolaBulldog,

Thanks for the ping.

Firstly, I encourage you to create a userpage as it will make communicating much more efficient.

Good work on your edits, they have helped. I've done a bit of work on the draft and added some additional references. I'm hoping to do more clean up to strengthen the notability, as I do feel this page has great potential, so I would please ask you to not submit it for review until I've had more time to improve the draft. I'll let you know here (or via your userpage if you create one and let me know here) when I think the draft is ready for submission. Thanks Cabrils (talk) 02:10, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cabrils! Thanks for taking a look. I really appreciate your help.

Here is my userpage talk BoolaBulldog (talk) 18:53, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Could you please now address the issues I raised in my comments in relation to whether you have a conflict of interest; and WP:THREE.

Please let me know when you have done so, which will likely mean you need to create a Userpage also, and I would be happy to reassess. Cabrils (talk) 00:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Eva_Díaz_(art_historian)

Thanks so much for your careful comments. I have combed over the draft and provided more backup on your suggestions on the "Draft: Eva Diaz (art historian)" talk page. I believe the notability within the field of contemporary art is clearer now. As far as I can see all cites are from outside organisations, not blogs or such. In the case of the current Wikipedia article on Art and General that lists Diaz as a former curator, I don't believe I can cite that but it seems appropriate for her to have her own page (that is how/where I discovered she did NOT have her own page), and a link from the mention of her name on that page. Cheers! Avengers23 (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

Well done, those revisions look good.

Could you please now address the issues I raised in my comments in relation to whether you have a conflict of interest; and WP:THREE.

Please let me know when you have done so (which will likely include you creating a userpage), and I would be happy to reassess. Cabrils (talk) 00:09, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by WP: THREE, I'll go ahead put the WP: THREE on the talk page.

Re: conflict of interest. I am not the subject nor have I been paid; I am a specialist in 19th century French art, but with great interest in contemporary art and design, and particularly contemporary art theory, curatorial practice, and gender studies. To that end I have taken up your suggestion and made a userpage that speaks a little to my projects and passions :) Avengers23 (talk) 02:59, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've replied on the Draft's Talk page-- let's continue the discussion there for better visibility. Cabrils (talk) 05:58, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fabulous, I've replied to your reply over on that talk page with further backup on the subject's expertise e.g. articles Diaz is quoted in from the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the like. Thanks for your careful editorial feedback, and good day to you! Avengers23 (talk) 18:38, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Sara Nomberg-Przytyk

Hello,

I wanted to let you know that I made the necessary changes you noted.

Best,

PSYCHREL (talk) 00:56, 13 March 2025 (UTC)PsychREL[reply]

Nice work, draft accepted into main space. Cabrils (talk) 00:59, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Teo A. Khing Design Consultants

Dear Cabrils,

I write to you following your kind review of my proposed page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Teo_A._Khing_Design_Consultants on 7th March 2025.

I wanted to work through the feedback you've provided to ensure your suggestions are met and the page can be published as hoped.

Your feedback listed the following (summarizing):

1. This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article.

2. The draft needs multiple published sources that are: in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements); reliable; secondary; strictly independent of the subject

1. Qualifying For A Wikipedia Article

The subject in question, Teo A. Khing Design Consultants, is an internationally recognized architecture and master planning consultant that has won numerous awards for its work. There is a precedent with Wikipedia recognizing its peers including:

- Burrell Foley Fischer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrell_Foley_Fischer

- Dominique Perrault https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominique_Perrault

- Populous Holdings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populous_Holdings

It is proposed, and hopefully agreed, that the body of work of the proposed subject qualifies it to similar treatment.

2. Multiple Published Sources

Your feedback here is certainly taken on board and I write for further advice. One of the challenges being confronted is that some of the projects being listed are now 15 - 20 years old. The internet wasn't as comprehensive as a database of information then as it is today. This issue is exacerbated in developing parts of the world where many of these projects were completed (Malaysia, Dubai).

It is understood that there is a preference for more detailed references. This remains the goal. Accounting for the above listed challenge, multiple references have been provided for each of the projects and these reference are attributed to independent industry publications and independent media publications. To assist further on this:

1. Are there specific references/publications that are concerning please?

2. With acknowledgement to the above listed challenge, do you have any further advice as to how approved references may be sourced?

Your further feedback is warmly welcomed. The intention is to work with you to overcome obstacles and shortcomings so that the requirements of Wikipedia are met.

Thank you in advance. Blackgoldsiro (talk) 13:57, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the ping.

My best advice is to please peruse, not just scan, my comments and ALL the links included therein, because your questions are all addressed there. It's clear from your draft, and questions here, that you are new to creating pages on Wikipedia, so you do really need to take the time to thoroughly absorb and become familiar with all the relevant guidelines, policies and procedures: pointing you in that direction is the best way I can help.

I would discourage you from comparing your draft to other existing pages: each page is (continually) assessed on its own merits and whether it meets the relevant requirements.

The best place to ask for advice to "overcome obstacles and shortcomings so that the requirements of Wikipedia are met" is the Teahouse.

And to assist in the functionality I would encourage you to create a Userpage.

All the best with it all. Cabrils (talk) 22:02, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Counter-Vandalism Academy Graduation

CVU Academy Graduate

Hi Cabrils, On behalf of the Counter-Vandalism Unit Academy, congratulations! You have successfully completed all assignments and have now graduated from the Academy. You completed your final exam with a score of 95.5% – well done! It's been a pleasure to work with you over the past year. I hope you gained something from this CVUA program and do always note that the motto of the Counter Vandalism Unit is Civility – Maturity – Responsibility. Do drop by my talk page if you have any questions, as I am here to help. Thank you so much for your willingness to help Wikipedia in this CVUA role. Best. Cassiopeia talk 06:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much @Cassiopeia! I have learned a great deal, and your patience and guidance has been wonderful. Hugely appreciative for all your precious time. Cabrils (talk) 07:00, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cassiopeia talk 06:54, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Worm Shepherd

Hello Cabrils,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Worm Shepherd for deletion, because it's a redirect from an article title to a namespace that's not for articles.

If you don't want Worm Shepherd to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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C F A 14:09, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft approval: Juninho Manella

I have deleted some external links and made adjustments, I would like you to review the draft Draft:Juninho Manella. Sebastiana M.Soares (talk) 23:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]