Template talk:User sandbox

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Template-protected edit request on 6 September 2024

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Please implement my changes in the Template:User sandbox/sandbox.

The reason for this change is to provide for convenient navigation between the different sandboxes on Wikipedia and a person's user sandbox.

Also, protect the navigation template after transclusion please. Awesome Aasim 23:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partly completed: this is not the correct venue to protect a page. Please go to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection to request protection. In the meantime I have added |navbar=plain to the new navigation template to remove the V · T · E links. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 09:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I object to the addition of a navbox in this non-standard location. In addition to being a strange place for a navbox, it causes problems if this template is preceded by an indenting character such as : or *. If you want to put in a small list of other likely pages, that's fine, but not a whole navbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree. I don't see any value for example in having 10 images listed there, or 20 X templates for example. It's also strange to have a nested navigation template in a banner. Gonnym (talk) 08:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's consensus, and so

reverted. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 09:35, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's discuss a little more.

I feel like there is a convenience aspect to having such a navbox in the sandbox. It makes jumping between sandboxes easier.

Maybe a "type" parameter would be good? One type could give just the two small links, another type could give the full navbox, and another type could give nothing. The default could then be set based on consensus. Awesome Aasim 15:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would not object to something like |type=expanded as an option. It should not be the default. If the expanded version contains a navbox, the documentation should explain that it is not compatible with any sort of indenting markup. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly, but the default should not include the clunky navbox. From a practicality standpoint, information banners are not the place where navbox fit best, and this addition, if it goes through, shouldn't retroactively impact all current use cases. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening as part of WP:BRD. The navbox is now an option in the sandbox version, but the default will still be the status quo. Awesome Aasim 20:20, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me, thanks! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What are the use cases for noindex=no?

I don't see any legitimate reason for having a sandbox in userspace indexed by search engines. Unless anyone knows better, this functionality should be removed, as userspace is WP:NOINDEXed by default. Paradoctor (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding this, I'm surprised that things in userspace can be indexed to begin with. I guess some userspace essays might be, but they don't fit the use cases for sandboxes, which are basically a userspace draft. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. No issues with appropriate userspace essays being indexed, but not sandboxes. Sdkb ^talk 23:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 9 October 2024

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Description of suggested change: Remove the __NOINDEX__ functionality, per consensus at § What are the use cases for noindex=no?.

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Paradoctor (talk) 18:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sdkb ^talk 19:07, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 15 April 2025

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Description of suggested change: change link to "Main sandbox" to actually point to the main sandbox Diff:

loserhead (talk) 16:09, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The change to Draft:Sandbox was done in 2018 in Special:Diff/824816605 per discussion at Template talk:User sandbox/Archive 1#Main sandbox link should be Draft:sandbox. The claim at the time was that Draft:Sandbox has better compatibility with the Visual editor than Wikipedia:Sandbox. Has this changed? —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:59, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]