Template:Did you know nominations/The Bard (The Twilight Zone)

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The result was: promoted by LunaEclipse talk 11:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

The Bard (The Twilight Zone)

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... that William Shakespeare assaulted Burt Reynolds in The Twilight Zone episode "The Bard"? Source: Bibbiani, William (November 4, 2023). "The Twilight Zone Parodied Studio Notes By Having Shakespeare Punch Burt Reynolds". /Film. Archived from the original on March 9, 2025.
ALT2 ... that Burt Reynolds played a stand-in for Marlon Brando in The Twilight Zone episode The Bard"?
ALT3 ... that David Chase, creator of The Sopranos, considers The Bard one of his favorite episodes of the The Twilight Zone"?
ALT4 ... that ratings for The Bard range from A− by The A.V. Club to being the second-worst episode of The Twilight Zone by /Film and Paste?"
ALT5 ... that /Film and Paste list The Bard as the second-worst episode of the The Twilight Zone while The A.V. Club gave it an A−?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marcelino Massana
- Comment: Sources are not to be placed into the plot summaries per style guides, but a source within the article does provide sourcing for the assault part.

Improved to Good Article status by Jon698 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 91 past nominations.

Jon698 (talk) 17:56, 12 April 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig is complaining about non-problems, like titles of works or the phrase episode of The Twilight Zone). Manual spot-checks from this revision: I checked refs 3 (no copyright issues), refs 5 (no issues), 11 (see next sentence), and 16 (I would put ahead of its time in quotes, but otherwise nice work!). However, for source 11, changing Brando’s signature performative style, accent, and mannerisms as the character Rocky Rhodes to Brando's signature performative style, mannerisms and accent as the character of Rocky is WP:CLOP. You can just quote the original.

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - ALT0 is ineligible per WP:DYKFICTION, which states in part If the subject of the hook is a creative work, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact [...] Simply acknowledging that a hook is about a creative work is not sufficient. Do you have another hook about the real-world aspects of The Bard?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Finally, ref 3 (citing p. 296) does not state explicitly that the new episodes were an hour. I'd just add p. 293 to the cite, which contains that information. A couple of nitpicks to address, but this looks like a fun article about a cool TV episode. Even though it got mixed reviews, it sounds like something I would personally enjoy. Nice work! House Blaster (talk • he/they) 22:52, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

@HouseBlaster: I have made the edits that you suggested. As for a new hook how about "... that Burt Reynolds played a stand-in for Marlon Brando in The Twilight Zone episode The Bard" Jon698 (talk) 02:11, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@Jon698: Thank you for making the edits :)

Apologies for being difficult, but I'm not sure I'd call that draft interesting enough to a broad audience. But I bet we can work with this. Is there a reason why that is cool/interesting/out of the ordinary? Best, and sorry for the trouble, House Blaster (talk • he/they) 03:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@HouseBlaster: How about
ALT3 "... that David Chase, creator of The Sopranos, considers The Bard one of his favorite episodes of the The Twilight Zone"
ALT4 "... that ratings for The Bard range from A− by The A.V. Club to being the second-worst episode of The Twilight Zone by /Film and Paste?"
ALT5 "... that /Film and Paste list The Bard as the second-worst episode of the The Twilight Zone while The A.V. Club gave it an A−?" Jon698 (talk) 09:17, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

@Jon698: I've fixed some typos (using the correct dash). I definitely think ALT4 and ALT5 are interesting enough. From revision 1285583894, it looks like these are sourced from ref 14 (Paste), ref 15 (/Film), and ref 17 (A.V. club).

approved for ALT4 and ALT5. I think ALT4 has the better framing, so that would be my preference between the two. Thanks for sticking with me :) House Blaster (talk • he/they) 15:29, 14 April 2025 (UTC)