Template:Did you know nominations/Roger Tocotes
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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 11:14, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
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Roger Tocotes
- ... that in 1477 Roger Tocotes was suspected of aiding and abetting the poisoners of the Duchess of Clarence, but managed to avoid capture until the King began investigating the Duke of Clarence? Source: * Hicks, M. A. (1980). False, Fleeting, Perjur'd Clarence: George, Duke of Clarence 1449–1478. Gloucester: Alan Sutton. p. 138. ISBN 978-1-87304-113-0.* Scofield, C. L. (1967). The Life and Reign of Edward the Fourth, King of England and of France and Lord of Ireland. Vol. II (New impr. ed.). London: Cass. pp. 187–189. OCLC 310646653.
Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.
Serial (speculates here) 19:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough, long enough, and of excellent quality. The hook needs some polishing, though. Given that most historians do not believe that the duchess was poisoned, we should probably describe the executed servants as alleged poisoners. I like how the hook can be read as saying that the king investigated the duke for the poisoning of the duchess (despite it not saying that). Instead of "aiding and abetting" I think we should try the simple "involvement" and perhaps indicate that it was the duke who suspected/accused/persecuted him. Surtsicna (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Fortuna imperatrix mundi: Please address the above.--Launchballer 10:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
@Fortuna imperatrix mundi: I will close this in 24 hours if I don't see some action on this.--Launchballer 13:11, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Surtsicna: As a trimming, how about:
- ALT1: that Roger Tocotes was suspected by the Duke of Clarence of involvement in the Duchess of Clarence's death, but Tocotes avoided capture until the King got involved?
- ALT2: that Roger Tocotes was suspected by the Duke of Clarence of masterminding the Duchess of Clarence's death, but Tocotes avoided capture until the King got involved?
- Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 20:25, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Surtsicna: As a trimming, how about:
- @Fortuna imperatrix mundi: Please address the above.--Launchballer 10:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Tenpop421, ALT2 is good; the world today loves a good Master Criminal :) and @Launchballer. Cheers, Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 11:24, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
