Template:Did you know nominations/2024 Greenfield tornado
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 22:54, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
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2024 Greenfield tornado
- ... that a tornado estimated to be one of the strongest on record helped out volunteers by planting maize crops in a green field?
- Source: This for the existence of crops and their description as "volunteer crops", this American Meteorology Society blog (deemed reliable enough in this context) for the first claim -
“We’re trying to give a range, which puts this event at 309–318 mph.” The two strongest known tornadoes, El Reno in 2013 and Bridge Creek in 1999, both had DOW-measured wind speeds within that range.
I can get a better source if necessary.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bargain Hunters
- Comment: Just passed GAN, this is a great hook for WP:DYKAPRIL. "Volunteers" refers to crops planted by natural processes instead of humans and I don't think a tornado can be reasonably referred to as a human, and there's some double speak going on equating Greenfield, Iowa, with a literal agricultural field.
Improved to Good Article status by Departure– (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.
Departure– (talk) 14:14, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article reached Good Article status within 7 days of nomination. It has over 1,500 characters in prose, sourced, and neutral. Earwig shows an unlikely copyright violation of 24.8%. Hook is interesting and cited. Good to go! lullabying (talk) 02:04, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: What's your opinion on this as an April 1 hook? Should it be rephrased to get there? That's the primary reason why I did this GA. Departure– (talk) 03:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying and Departure: just to comment narrowly on "Earwig shows an unlikely copyright violation of 24.8", you need to look at more than just the big number at the top of the report. Read through the report and look at the matches. In this case, most of them are proper nouns (Doppler on Wheels, National Weather Service) or direct quotes ("No matter what the wind speed ..."), so they're fine. You also need to look in the other direction, for places where text from the source has undergone trivial modifications to avoid detection by Earwig. This is called close paraphrasing. You also need to look at the sources beyond just the top one in the report. In this case this source has the direct copy of
received new golf clubs from Callaway and TaylorMade, and he also received an invitation to play in the John Deere Classic mini Pro-Am
. That should either be rewritten or at least quoted and attributed. RoySmith (talk) 12:22, 25 March 2025 (UTC)- Fix @Departure–: RoySmith (talk) 12:23, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Done. Departure– (talk) 14:37, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Fix @Departure–: RoySmith (talk) 12:23, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think it might need to be rephrased for the April hook. As someone who doesn't know much about this topic, maybe the part including "volunteers" might make it a little confusing and technical. Maybe ALT1: ... that a tornado estimated to be one of the strongest on record helped plant maize crops in a green field? lullabying (talk) 02:38, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying: Sorry for the late response. Volunteer is a very technical term but it contributes to the joke I'm trying to make on this hook. It works fine either way. Either way, it's linked as the correct terminology in the article, and will almost certainly get readers interested in the term of volunteering, if only to understand this hook. Departure– (talk) 19:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Lullabying and Departure: just to comment narrowly on "Earwig shows an unlikely copyright violation of 24.8", you need to look at more than just the big number at the top of the report. Read through the report and look at the matches. In this case, most of them are proper nouns (Doppler on Wheels, National Weather Service) or direct quotes ("No matter what the wind speed ..."), so they're fine. You also need to look in the other direction, for places where text from the source has undergone trivial modifications to avoid detection by Earwig. This is called close paraphrasing. You also need to look at the sources beyond just the top one in the report. In this case this source has the direct copy of
- Comment As this is now unlikely to be an April 1 hook, it's ready to be promoted in a standard prep area, barring any issues with the hook. Departure– (talk) 19:59, 3 April 2025 (UTC)