Talk:Wikipedia

Is it too subjective?

I was about to edit what I thought was subjective in the first paragraph, where it brags about its stats as most visited reference work, and I was about to delete it but I wanted to check first to make sure it wasn't subjective. Empirejack182 (talk) 23:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

You will need to build a convincing case the sources given in that paragraph are not reliable. They look good to me. Johnjbarton (talk) 23:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I read them, they look good. Empirejack182 (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

I know this discussion ended, but I wanted to revitalize this because I read the first sentence, which feels a bit subjective or NPOV to me:

Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, written and maintained by a community of volunteers, known as Wikipedians, through open collaboration and the wiki software MediaWiki.

The information is true, but the phrasing seems a bit like advertising/promoting the wiki and too long. I think just mentioning that it is a wiki is enough.

My rephrasing proposal:

Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia in the form of a wiki hosted through the wiki software MediaWiki.

I think the open collaboration part can go in other sentences (maybe a new sentence after this should be made?).

Looking forward to everyone's thoughts! :) grafiXal (talk) 18:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Should we add its motto somewhere? I feel like we should but I don't know where. it could fit in the opener or somewhere in articles body. "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" motto as is in quotes. JamesEMonroe (talk) 20:23, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Updating Vector 2022

Do you often agree that that new information about the skin should be included in history, such as these sister projects, like Wiktionary and Wikivoyage adapting the new skin and minor updates in 2024-2025? If you exactly disagree, please explain why. AmazingWikis4386 (talk) 22:52, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

"The Wikipedia page" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect The Wikipedia page has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 May 28 § The Wikipedia page until a consensus is reached. Gaismagorm (talk) 11:06, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

"Encyclopedia (iPhone application)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Encyclopedia (iPhone application) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at {{Section link}}: required section parameter(s) missing until a consensus is reached. I am bad at usernames (talk | contribs) 22:34, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia in a novel

Hi, In the novel Project Hail Mary, an astronaut gives a copy of Wikipedia to an alien as the sum of all human knowledge. I think it would be interesting to mention that somewhere. Yann (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Outdated factoid

Wikipedia is now the ninth most visited website, underneath reddit.com; however, the article still states that it is the eighth most visited. I do not have editing access, so please update it. 24.136.20.49 (talk) 03:59, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I'd be able to update it if you are able to provide a citation to a reliable source. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Recent attempts to reduce reliance on primary sources

I believe the last time this was talked about was at Talk:Wikipedia/Archive 25#Too many primary sources. I've recently aquired some books about Wikipedia that I plan to use to remedy this issue. I've spent a lot of the past hour making various edits but I don't think I'll be able to do it all in one sitting. Obviously, I'm being quite WP:BOLD here already so if anyone has any objections to anything in particular feel free to be comment here. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:11, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 July 2025

Review of Changes Wikipedia's Editing Interface Burkett955 (talk) 17:37, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

 Not done I don't understand what you want changed. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:15, 30 July 2025 (UTC)

Is the openness section really overly detailed or promotional?

I've reverted the bold edit made here by Floating Orb which added maintenance tags to the openness section. I definitely think this article has issues (see the section I started above) but I don't think these tags specifically are relevant. Outside opinions are welcome. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:16, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

@Floating Orb: your thoughts are welcome as well! I just don't completely understand why you think this information is overly detailed. Is it because there are a few references to primary sources in there and you think that detail is extraneous? That's an issue with the article more broadly and not just that section but I'd understand your position more if that was the case. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:44, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

I was thinking that it really talks about information that only guidelines need to say. Most people don't need to know about the "auto-confirmed" users anyway and if you really want to learn about it you should probably go to a guideline. Some of the section is cited to news, some of it is cited to primary sources (which are guidelines), and some of it is books (that's fine). If the information is primary sourced, then it doesn't actually need to be there that much if nowhere else covers it. Either way, it has over 120 primary sources. Floating Orb Talk! ^{my edits} 01:23, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

@Floating Orb: I agree that there's too many primary sources. However, I don't think it's just confined to that one section specifically. I do think that a lot of the content cited to primary sources right now could theoretically be replaced with stronger sourcing. There are actually several books written about Wikipedia. I've been using one of them a lot in the past 24 hours to try and improve the state of things. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 01:34, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Okay, that's good. Floating Orb Talk! ^{my edits} 04:23, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

It's impossible NOT to promote Wikipedia when we are on the website looking at the article for said website. GarethBaloney (talk) 06:56, 31 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah. Floating Orb Talk! ^{my edits} 16:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)