Talk:Suffragette bombing and arson campaign

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First line

First line should be “terrorist militant protest campaign”

“The suffragette bombing and arson campaign was a terrorist militant protest campaign orchestrated by suffragettes in Great Britain and Ireland between the years 1912 and 1914.”

Mass murder attempt via repeated bombing and arson is terrorism.

Credibility loss Wikipedia.

The article makes quite clear that some authorities regard the campaign as "terrorist", while others contest the term. Wikipedia remains neutral. GrindtXX (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The organization itself called it terrorism and multiple, ten or more, cited sources agree. The article has one academic contesting it June Purve.

From article: During the campaign, the WSPU described its own bombing and arson attacks as terrorism

By your statement, if one academic calls 9/11 attacks as not terrorist, Wikipedia can bury terroist in the end of the 9/11 article.

The effect is that searching for suffragette bombing and arson” results in only the first two sentences in the results page preview and omits the important fact that it was a terrorism campaign.

That is why the first two sentences should include terrorist; else whitewashing terrorism.

This same pushing of unexpedient terms into later parts of an article is bad.

Google returns: The suffragette bombing and arson campaign was a militant protest campaign orchestrated by suffragettes in Great Britain and Ireland between the years 1912 and 1914. The campaign was instigated by the Women's Social and Political Union, and was a part of their wider campaign for women's suffrage. Wikipedia

Bing returns: The suffragette bombing and arson campaign was a militant protest campaign orchestrated by suffragettes in Great Britain and Ireland between the years 1912 and 1914. The campaign was instigated by the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU), and was a part of their wider campaign for women's suffrage.The campaign, led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline …

Yahoo returns: The suffragette bombing and arson campaign was a militant protest campaign orchestrated by suffragettes in Great Britain and Ireland between the years 1912 and 1914. The campaign was instigated by the Women's Social and Political Union (WSPU), and was a part of their wider campaign for women's suffrage.

It is part of a larger making convenient omissions to history for narrative reasons.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/06/1910s-suffragettes-suffragists-fern-riddell

This citation doesn't make the case for the edit. Contemporary description is 'militant' and the use of (modern term) 'terrorism' is discussed within the article including stating contemporary called by some 'terror' with citations. Kaybeesquared (talk) 21:42, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One inaccuracy - please sort

There is a historical inaccuracy in this sentence (I have tried to look into the cited source but can't get to where the incident is mentioned easily):

In November 1912, a car thought to be carrying the Prime Minister Lloyd-George was attacked by a woman jumping on the running board and hitting the window with a stone.[12]

David Lloyd-George was NOT Prime Minister until 1916. The then PM was HH Asquith. However I am unsure if the name is an error or the political title is, so I hesitate to try to correct it. It would be more illuminating if the location could be mentioned too. (Did it happen in Aberdeen? Asquith's then seat was in Scotland.)Cloptonson (talk) 08:25, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Cloptonson: Gosh, that site IS hard to navigate. Anyway, I found the entry. It was in Aberdeen, and the entry reads "Miss Humphries attacked a motor car in Rubislaw Den North on the occasion of Lloyd George’s visit to the city in November 1912. She stepped onto the footboard of the motorcar and threw a stone through the glass. She thought that Lloyd George was in the car." There's a more detailed but non-RS account here. DuncanHill (talk) 09:50, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for that timely intervention. I think Lloyd-George is such a personality he sometimes tends to overshadow Asquith, leading people tend to think he was PM before he actually become it!Cloptonson (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]