Talk:Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
![]() | Princess Alexandra of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is currently a Royalty, nobility and heraldry good article nominee. Nominated by Qubacubazamniauser (talk) at 22:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article. This review will be closed by the first reviewer. To add comments to this review, click discuss review and edit the page. Short description: Princess of Hohenlohe-Langenburg From 1913 to 1942 |
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Nominator: Qubacubazamniauser (talk · contribs) 22:44, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Llewee (talk · contribs) 13:59, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Hello Qubacubazamniauser, I spent a lot of last year working on her cousin's article so I have had much exposure to this family, but I don't know much about this woman in particular. I think this is your first nomination. Please use the Done template or
strikethrough to indicate that a problem has been dealt with and add any comments/questions after the points.
--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Early life
- "Alexandra was born Princess Alexandra of Edinburgh on 1 September 1878 at Rosenau Castle, Coburg." - Is there any reason why she was born in Coburg but didn't live there as a young child?--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Done
- "spoke.[7]In 1886, Duke Alfred was appointed commander of the Mediterranean Fleet.[1]" - add a space after the first citation and link to Mediterranean Fleet--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Done
- "That year, the entire family moved to Coburg" - I would suggest mentioning the year as it's a new paragraph.--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Done
- "
Maria Alexandrovna hired a German governess for her daughters, who bought the girls simple clothes and taught them the Lutheran faith"
This needs a full stop.The source describes the governess's conduct in a much harsher way than you do here. I think the children feeling that German nationality was being imposed on them needs a mention.- Could she speak German? You have only mentioned learning French so far.--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- made the governess's conduct less harsh by removing they hardly spoke; second, the German nationality—there’s no info on it, other than that there’s nothing I can do if I put mention that will be false information as there’s no sources for it. Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 22:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- NOTED: Maria was pro-German; that’s why she hired the governess Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 22:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Qubacubazamniauser You still need to add the full stop. I don't think you have understood my point about "harshness". The source say that the girls resented the governess, feeling that German nationality and an austere lifestyle was being imposed on them. I think you need to reword this section to make that point clear. Do you have access to the source? Its available at the Wayback Machine but you would probably need to create an account if you don't have one.--Llewee (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I have account on archive.org i will change it Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 02:22, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
- Qubacubazamniauser You still need to add the full stop. I don't think you have understood my point about "harshness". The source say that the girls resented the governess, feeling that German nationality and an austere lifestyle was being imposed on them. I think you need to reword this section to make that point clear. Do you have access to the source? Its available at the Wayback Machine but you would probably need to create an account if you don't have one.--Llewee (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- NOTED: Maria was pro-German; that’s why she hired the governess Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 22:53, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- "
the education of the young princesses was expanded: they were taught painting and music" - This seem unlikely as I'd imagine music and painting would have been quite routine subjects for late 19th century aristocratic girls. You don't really mention anything about their education in England beyond the fact they didn't like french.Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)- Expanded and more explained into more detailed. Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 22:41, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- "much.[13]She" - needs a gap after the citation--Llewee (talk) 16:21, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Done
- Qubacubazamniauser You haven't addressed the points that you used Strikethrough on. If you have questions about what I mean then please ask. Llewee (talk) 07:24, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don’t know how to fix that one. What I can do that will help at most is remove it. Could she speak German? You have only mentioned learning French so far. I looked for sources all across, even through her sisters; nothing, but most likely their German governess; who probably taught them German. Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 00:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Qubacubazamniauser, you also haven't responded to the other three points that you used strikethrough on. A full stop is another term for a period, apologies, I should have clarified .--Llewee (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Addressed, thank u for taking ur time to review this article. Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for dealing with this Qubacubazamniauser, I would suggest adding "who they felt was imposing German nationality on them" after "The children resented the governess".--Llewee (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Qubacubazamniauser, you also haven't responded to the other three points that you used strikethrough on. A full stop is another term for a period, apologies, I should have clarified .--Llewee (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don’t know how to fix that one. What I can do that will help at most is remove it. Could she speak German? You have only mentioned learning French so far. I looked for sources all across, even through her sisters; nothing, but most likely their German governess; who probably taught them German. Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 00:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- "they all loved very much" - it would probably sound more formal to say "they all enjoyed".
Done
- I meant also getting rid of "very much".--Llewee (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Done
- I meant also getting rid of "very much".--Llewee (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Marriage & Life in Hohenlohe-Langenburg
- Apologies Qubacubazamniauser for my slowness with the review, I have been destracted by other things & didn't realise how long it had been--Llewee (talk) 23:34, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- it’s ok Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 05:52, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- "believed in marrying her daughters young, before they began to think for themselves"
- "marrying her daughters" is grammatically awkward, the mother wasn't the one marrying them, I would suggest rewording this to "arranging her daughters' marriages".
Done
"before they began to think for themselves" comes across a bit judgemental, is that what the source says?The sentence has been rewritten.
- "marrying her daughters" is grammatically awkward, the mother wasn't the one marrying them, I would suggest rewording this to "arranging her daughters' marriages".
- "Maria Alexandrovna herself looked for suitable candidates for her daughters" - I would suggest changing "herself" to "personally".
Done
- I would suggest changing "(in theory) retaining their equal birth" to "formally retaining their previous rank".
Done
- "It was not considered a brilliant match." - This could do with more detail.
Done
- "After the November Revolution in Germany in 1918," - This needs a link to German Revolution.
Done
- "In the years preceding World War II, Alexandra was an early supporter of the Nazi Party, which she joined on 1 May 1937," is any more information available about why she had these views? Well maybe because Gottfried tried to assassin Adolf Hitler maybe Alexandra was involved with the plan.
- Is that what the sources say?--Llewee (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Youtube video Qubacubazamniauser (talk) 02:18, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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