Talk:Prince Louis of Wales/GA1

GA review

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Nominator: MSincccc (talk · contribs) 18:20, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: AndrewPeterT (talk · contribs) 05:04, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I will be reviewing this article! (NOTE: I know that I fell thorough with my similar intent for Louis's brother's article. However, I have gained valuable Wikipedia editing experience since then. Also, because Louis is not in the direct line of succession, I feel less pressure to get this process done "right".) AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 05:04, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Let's see how the United Kingdom's possible next Duke of York/Earl of Inverness fares as a Wikipedia entry!

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   D.) With respect to WP:COPY, I note that this article shares a 41.5% similarity with a Tumbig link's information when I ran the Copyvio detector: A. Would you please be able to confirm that you did not paste any information directly from that site?

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Extended comments

• 1A.) Excellent job with the spelling and grammar! I found no errors of this type reading the prose. That being said, you may want to note on the talk page that British English should be used for Louis's article because of his evident ties to the country's head of state.
• 1B.) Nice work building an article with a consistent organization and objective language!
• 2A.) Great job including this section.
• 2B.) Excellent job citing all of the information in the body! As an aside, a number of the references do not have "ref names". For ease of identification and multiple usage, I would add such names to all citations.
• 2C.) This is more of a subject inquiry than a WP:OR concern. To what extent is ...But when one is needed, it is Mountbatten-Windsor actually followed? I ask because Louis's father and uncle have used Wales as a surname instead at times. Also, Louis himself has gone by Louis Cambridge and Louis Wales at school.
• 3A.) I have no major concerns about the scope of this article. However, here are some specific content remarks I have:
  • What is the significance of Arthur in Louis's name?
  • Why are the portals to all the different Commonwealth realms linked? Unlike William and George, Louis is highly unlikely to have a consitutional role anywhere outside of the United Kingdom.
  • Why is Louis's article part of ? William's dukedoms, like Duke of Cornwall, are royal instead of noble ones like most of the British peerage.
• 3B.) I personally feel that Louis's article is rather short for someone part of "the world's most famous family", but at least all of the content relates to him!
• 4.) A few comments here:
  • Why is it mentioned in the lede that Louis is Princess Diana's grandson? I personally do not object to this fact being mentioned. However, when I added similar information into George's article, I remember being told that, at least for him, the Spencer and Middleton families are rarely discussed alongside William's children.
• The fact is now mentioned in the lead of both his siblings' articles, so it has been included here as well.
  • Why is Louis's behavior at Elizabeth II's Platinum Jubilee not mentioned at all? Those antics were mentioned by multiple media sources: CNN, ABC News, and The Guardian Also, Louis's behavior went viral to the point of even Piers Morgan commenting.
  • Any updates on Louis's engagement since Charles III's coronation?
  • Not to start a tough conversation, but...would Prince Louis not have been known as Prince Louis of Strathearn before September 8, 2022 and Prince Louis of Rothesay hereafter in Scotland? I know this will probably be hard to cite, but William does have different royal titles in Scotland than in England/Wales and Northern Ireland.
• 5.) Surprisingly, Louis's article has only had 15 edits this entire year as of this post! Given how prominent his family is to British and American media, I would have expected a lot more recent contributions (and WP:VANDALISM)!
• 6A.) Both images have Creative Commons licenses, so I do not believe this is a requirement here.
• 6B.) Excellent job with the relevance and captions, as well as showing Louis with his family. As described in MOS:IMG, I would also add alt text to ensure all readers can understand the two images present.

Please ping me when you have addressed my comments. I look forward to being the one who removes the final roadblock to all of Prince William's family of procreation members having English Wikipedia good articles! AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 06:28, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your work so far. Per WP:GAN/I#R3, I have conducted a spot-check of the article's sources. Here are my comments from this process:

• Prince Louis was born at 11:01 BST on 23 April 2018 in St Mary's Hospital, London, during the reign of his paternal great-grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II... The cited sources do not explicitly establish that Elizabeth II is Louis's great-grandparents. While is fact is indeed true, I am unsure if it needs a citation.
• His birth was marked by gun salutes and bell ringings... The cited source does not mention bell ringings.

• • It does mention the fact in this sentence-Westminster Abbey also marked the occasion with bell ringing - a tradition for significant royal occasions.

• Louis was christened on 9 July by the archbishop of Canterbury... The cited source states that Louis would be christened on that date.
• He made his Trooping the Colour debut in 2019... The cited source notes that Louis was present at Trooping the Colour 2019 but does not discuss this being his first apperance.

• • Done.

• The archived URL of this citation does not work:

• • It works now.

• Louis is fourth in the line of succession to the British throne, behind his father and two elder siblings... The cited source notes that Charlotte would maintain her place as fourth in line, as it was written before Elizabeth's death. I would recommend finding a more recent source explicitly stating this information.

• • [This article] published by the BBC (and cited in the Upbringing section) outlines the current line of succession to the throne, placing Louis fourth.

AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 16:26, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@AndrewPeterT I have addressed most of your suggestions above. His antics at the Jubilee may be seen as trivial (which they are) for a GA. Likewise, his appearances since the coronation, as he, like his siblings, is not yet a working royal. I look forward to your response. Best regards. MSincccc (talk) 18:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

@MSincccc: Thank you for taking the time to address my feedback. On second thought, most of the comments I had above are likely too nitpicky for WP:GAI. I do know that William and Catherine are very sensitive to what the media says about them and their family, so this is why I erred on the side of caution. I am also backing down on my plagiarism concerns, as I know social media users like those on Tumbig likely are the ones guilty of "causing" these similarities.

Well, it's going to be a very exciting Easter break for Louis. He can take it easy knowing that his Wikipedia article just passed its GA review! Maybe William will even bring Louis along on his trip to Paris for an extra special treat!

In all seriousness, MSincccc, congratulations on a successful GA nomination. Thank you for your commitment to making the English Wikipedia a truly encyclopedic venue to learn about the Wales family. I am honored to give the green stamp of approval for Louis's article (and say that all of his nuclear relatives have GAs)! AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 23:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)