Talk:Mandatory Swedish
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A title reflecting this article's limited scope?
[edit]Should we maybe move this article to a page titled something like:
- Mandatory Swedish tuition in Finnish schools
- Tuition in Finland's two domestic languages
or?
/Tuomas 10:43, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Under any circumstances, the neutrality of this article must be considered as disputed. This should be properly indicated, as is done in the article about, say, Yasser Arafat.
The function of the whole article seems to be taking what is essentially a minor internal dispute on an international arena in an improper way. The question of "pakkoruotsi", which is in itself a polemical word coined by an organisation aimed against the minority, should rather be handled as an annex to the situation of the Swedish minority in Finland. (A passer-by, 12 November 2004)
the map
[edit]isn't a little strange to put a map in an encylopedia article, along with a whole paragraph explaining why the map is incorrect/biased, followed by a link to an apparently less biased map (which seems to be on the author's personal homepage... wouldn't there be a more official source for it??). if the linked map is indeed less biased, let's just but that on the page instead and get rid of the biased one.
User:84.248.81.201 20:32, 19 Apr 2005
- Wikipedia's copyright policies is one hinderness. But, in fact, although I think none of the alternative maps are to prefer, also the current map is somewhat questionable in the context of Wikipedia:Image use policy. Feel free to improve the article, for instance by a map made by yourself!
- :-)
- /Tuomas 13:30, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Article needs to be remade from scratch
[edit]There are plenty of sentences and words making this article extremely biased and skewed. Here are som examples: "However, the requirement to study Swedish is often referred to as pakkoruotsi, a somewhat charged term in Finnish meaning "mandatory Swedish", or "enforced Swedish". " No, pakkoruotsi can not be translated as "mandatory Swedish". That would be "pakollinen ruotsi" .
"The employees of the national government and the bilingual municipal governments are required to be able to serve citizens in Swedish." No, they are not, but the institution need to make sure they as an institution can provide service in both Swedish and Finnish. Single civil servants are not required to speak Swedish/Finnish, but they need to fetch someone who speaks the language they don't have proficiency in, should the need arise.
"Currently, it is possible for Finnish citizens to report a different mother tongue for themselves at any time, and as many times as desired, by submitting a form to the Population Register Center. " How is this relevant?
" Military service is not required in the autonomous region of Åland." How is this relevant?
This is just from the first two paragraphs, and I suspect it won't be any better further on in this lengthy article. Romuruotsalainen (talk) 10:07, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Splitting the article for broader coverage of mandatory finnish for native Swedish speakers
[edit]Although this article already covers the opposite for Swedish speaking Finns, I believe that it's not broad enough. Therefore I propose that this article be split into two, mandatory Swedish and mandatory Finnish. The opposite needs broader coverage. Metric Supporter 89 (talk) 02:18, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
Based text
[edit]Hi everyone.
When reading the 'Top' segment of this page you'll find, aside from grammatical errors, language that sounds very much biased in favour of the 'Finnish speaking side' if you will. It would be a good idea to at least clean up the language a bit and make it more neutral.
Cheers. 188.148.147.8 (talk) 23:53, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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