Talk:List of the verified oldest people/Archive 18

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Update history (AGAIN)

I see by the list that a deceased woman and a deceased man was added but no mention in the update. Now how is anyone supposed to know WHO was added if you don't put it in the history? This isn't rocket science and it's not that hard. In fact, if it's too hard then don't do the update either. So now can someone tell me who was added to both lists? Or is that too much work too? GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 03:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Please click on the button that says "prev" for the row of the relevant edit and that will show you exactly what was changed. Easter Wiggins was added to the oldest women list (rank 60), while Stanisław Kowalski was added to the oldest men list (rank 61). Softmist (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

No reason that can't be added to the edit history instead of making people hunt for it. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 03:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2024

Add that a woman, Lillian Elliot from Guyana that is alive was verified as born on July 31, 1909. The source to the newspaper article is here: https://uncutnews.co/2024/03/guyanas-oldest-resident-receives-gift-of-new-home-from-generous-philanthropist/. 24.186.141.111 (talk) 01:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

A newspaper article does not count as verified. The article only includes people whose age has been "validated by organisations specialising in extreme age verification". DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 02:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Missing person

Mary Schultz lived to 115 and is not on this list, this should be updated reflecting this. Beaumobile (talk) 15:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

 Not done You hae not provided verification from reliable sources. Peaceray (talk) 17:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Oldest person in the world

professor lenana from Kenya 154.159.254.172 (talk) 13:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

132yrs 154.159.254.172 (talk) 13:00, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Does not qualify for inclusion in this article, even with a WP:RS. Too old for Longevity claims. Possibly include in Longevity myths. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 21:26, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Age as of ...........

Could we add "Age as of (..date..)" to the age column? It seems updates are done at various times so it's hard to tell if the age for corrected yet for that day or not. This is done on several other Wiki "Oldest People" sites. I'd even help with the updates but I've learned that if you make the slightest mistake you invoke the wrath of God from a certain person, so I'm not doing it. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 01:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Swami Savinanda. Again.

Above list is totally wrong, there's still a living man in India who's age is around 125 year named svami sivananda. He recently came into limelight after receiving one of the India's most precious award i.e, Padma Bhushan. https://www.google.com/search?q=swami+sivananda+padma+shri&sca_esv=1fc18fc5814bda98&sxsrf=ADLYWIISiHjIojPFyrOwg0Ti9qv-JYceRA%3A1719028395422&ei=q0p2Zq6rGbiQseMP3KqsyAU&gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0LDSOTzaqyksyYPSSKi5PzM1UKM4sS8xLzEtJVChITMlNVCjOKMoEAC9MDqU&oq=swami+shivananda+padma+&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhdzd2FtaSBzaGl2YW5hbmRhIHBhZG1hICoCCAAyBxAuGIAEGA0yBxAAGIAEGA0yBhAAGBYYHjILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyBxAhGKABGApI1TpQtglYiyxwAXgBkAEAmAHXAqAB_w6qAQUyLTUuMrgBAcgBAPgBAZgCCKAC6BDCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgINEAAYgAQYsAMYQxiKBcICFhAuGIAEGLADGEMY1AIYyAMYigXYAQHCAhMQLhiABBiwAxhDGMgDGIoF2AEBwgINEC4YgAQYFBjUAhiHAsICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEC4YgAQYCsICDRAAGIAEGLEDGIMBGArCAgsQLhiABBiRAhiKBcICCBAAGAUYDRgemAMAiAYBkAYMugYECAEYCJIHBzEuMC40LjOgB4JC&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp 2409:40E6:10:C922:8076:2FF:FE5E:AFC3 (talk) 04:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

As noted multiple times in the archives of this page and others: He is in Longevity claims where he belongs. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 04:12, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Update of men oldest

the oldest man is currently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh none the one mentioned on this page

Please see the Shi Ping topic above. The same applies. Softmist (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

What Shi Ping topic? I can't see one.

Wikipedia says that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Ping_(politician)

died on 29 June 2024 aged 112 years, 241 days. Is that sufficient for him to be included in the top 100 oldest ever men?

StuZealand (talk) 09:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

It's in the archives here. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 09:48, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

StuZealand, He needs to be validated by a reliable source (Gerontology Research Group, Longiviquest etc.) He is not included currently because I think he is still in pending validation. Smartboy78 (talk) 03:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Softmist, I don't think this man is validated by any reliable source. Smartboy78 (talk) 03:41, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

No, Fauja Singh isn't, and I don't think he will be anytime soon. Softmist (talk) 05:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Surely Shi Ping (politician) merits a spot

He lived to 112 years and 241 days. Beestalman (talk) 13:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

His age is currently pending by both LongeviQuest and the GRG, once he's fully validated he will be added to the list. Milus331 (talk) 20:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

I see, thank you. Beestalman (talk) 05:15, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

He is now fully validated by the GRG. Milus331 (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

That's excellent, thank you for letting me know. Beestalman (talk) 06:23, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Is eiko Minami still alive?

I was checking and read Gerontology wiki (is Eiko minami still alive?) she was born in 1909 she was a dance actress known for the 1926 Japanese film "A Page of Madness", but the strange thing is that English and Japanese Wikipedia mentions nothing about her date of death. If she were still alive she would be the fourth-oldest living person in the world Not sure I doubt if she is still alive https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1272552/ Nicubining (talk) 00:45, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Johnson Parks

LongeviQuest has more or less debunked his age. Should he be removed? Avengingbandit 05:28, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes. The GRG will likely follow in the upcoming days. Milus331 (talk) 14:41, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

New oldest person...

Verified... L1quidm3talz (talk) 19:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a cemetery in my town with around 2.5k memorials, one of them I found, had an abnormal birthdate and death date. Born in 1753, died in 1878..... 125 years old Jacob F. L1quidm3talz (talk) 19:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Abkhaz woman

While looking for sources for this, I saw this piece by a now-defunct paper stating that an Abkhaz woman in Russian Georgia died at the age of 139. While looking across, there are other sources covering it at that time. Should she be included? Tavantius (talk) 15:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Unverified claims over 130 belong in Longevity myths. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Margaret Maritz

I found this offhand on a BBC article about a South African woman who just celebrated her 118th birthday. They say Mararet Maritz, googling her I found Margaret Maritz more commonly.

Wouldn't she be appropriate for this list? Or does more go into verifying her age? 104.129.207.85 (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Older than the oldest fully verified person, therefore belongs in Longevity claims, where she is already listed. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 04:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Adding Josino Levino Ferreira

So why hasn't Josino Levino Ferreira been added to the list of men? He's 111 years, 205 days old and would be tied for 99th place. He's validated too. I'm not doing it because the last time I edited something I invoked the wrath of DerbyCounty and I'm not giving her another reason to complain. https://gerontology.fandom.com/wiki/Josino_Levino_Ferreira GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 03:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

With the 4 new cases, he wouldnt be in the top 100 yet. He would have to wait almost a week longer 12.105.249.130 (talk) 05:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

He's been added now. So much for your four new cases and waiting another week. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 02:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

99th equal

Jose Ferreira is now 111/205 days old Dderbydave (talk) 08:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

He is not in the Top 100 oldest verified men yet though because of the 4 new additional validated male cases. He needs to reach 111 years, 211 days to tie 100th place which would happen 2024.10.31 12.105.249.130 (talk) 16:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Apparently no one else agrees with you. Give it a rest. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 23:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Increasing the size of the list

I have a suggestion that the size of the list be increased to at least 125 total names for each gender. Every time a name gets added it gets harder for the next living person to make the list as the age gets higher. It seems we have very few living participants now days, especially with the men and it will get worse in the next few years. The information is all there, since the names were simply deleted as new ones were added. Wouldn't be hard to do and it's fun to see the living move up the list. You'd have to be a real sourpuss to not like this idea. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 00:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

So why are the rest of you against this? It's soon going to be virtually impossible for any living people to make the list. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 23:58, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2024

4 male cases need to be added to the top 100 oldest men list: Frank Sylvester 1893-06-25 2005-02-12 111 232 M USA (Texas) USA (Texas) United States (SSA)/Kestenbaum study 2009-01-11 2012-01-13

Laurence Thompson 1887-01-23 1998-10-24 111 274 M USA (Hawaii) USA (California) United States (SSA)/Kestenbaum study 2009-01-09 2012-01-01

https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/2012-validations/

Pedro Batista Layana 1909-06-25 2021-03-07 111 255 M Cuba Cuba Carlos Rafael Dieguez 2019-06-25 2020-02-23

https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/2020-validations/

Mikhail Krichevsky 1897-03-09 2008-12-26 111 292 M Russian Empire (now Ukraine) Ukraine Dmitry Sudakov/Leonid Gavrilov 2013-03-23 2022-10-11

https://www.grg-supercentenarians.org/2022-validations/ 12.105.249.130 (talk) 05:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

None of them have been validated. GermanShepherd1983 (talk) 02:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Where are you basing your opinion from?

The facts are the Gerontology Research Group have validated all 4 of them. I have provided the sources as well. 12.105.249.130 (talk) 17:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Requested edit has been contested by GermanShepherd1983. Contestation of any kind makes it ineligible for the edit request process. Consensus is needed. Please peruse available dispute resolution options if discussion breaks down. —Sirdog (talk) 09:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Update needed

John tinniswood has passed away.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crk43k54mk0o 2A00:23C6:1AF1:E001:5AD9:D5FF:FE63:BBB1 (talk) 09:58, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2024

The days are wrong for the oldest American Woman Alive. She is 116 and 63 days not 61. Please correct so it doesn’t calculate the new upcoming top 100 incorrectly one is coming up in a few days. Thank you 47.148.159.57 (talk) 15:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Not done for now: please specify which person this is referring to, by name. Nobody in the list seems to be 116+61 nor 116+63. LizardJr8 (talk) 23:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2025, List of the verified oldest people

rank=1 name= Umarova Khuvayda bith date = 01.01.1895 death date = alive age = 130 place of death or residence = Uzbekistan this video about her, you can see all documents MobileDv (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Not verified, not eligible for this page. Upper limit for Longevity claims (where she was previously listed) is 130. Claims over 130 can be included in Longevity myths. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2025

Eugene Asonye, born April 26 1910 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.77.13.49 (talk) 15:29, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Please add Swami Sivananda.

Born on August 8, 1896, which would make him 128 years old as of February 2025 2405:201:4014:DC74:55A8:6D29:6E13:E417 (talk) 15:44, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

He is unvalidated by both the GRG and LongeviQuest. 586Deluxe (talk) 15:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Sivananda is listed at Longevity claims#Recent.

There is more about Guinness World Records & Gerontology Research Group (GRG) at Wikipedia:WikiProject Longevity#Databases. Peaceray (talk) 18:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Please remove Jeanne Calment picture

with time and better statistics, it is more and more evident that the extraordinary longevity of Jeanne Calment is probably a fake. 25 years after she passed away, the number of supercentenarians has gronw considerably and there is no single person reaching 120 years. 129.175.101.5 (talk) 08:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

 Not done You have not provide verification from a reliable source that counter the citations in the article. Please see the verifiability, not truth essay. Even though Calment's case seems an anomaly to you, anomalies do occur. Peaceray (talk) 17:40, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

thank you,

I do not mean to remove Jeanne Calment from the list, but I question the choice that was made recently to add her picture in the page. 129.175.101.5 (talk) 10:33, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

The REAL oldest person recorded to have ever lived

Kepoolele Apau BIRTH 1771 Hawaii County, Hawaii, USA DEATH 8 Nov 1898 (aged 126–127) Honolulu County, Hawaii, USA BURIAL Kawaiahao Church Cemetery Honolulu, Honolulu County, Hawaii, USA

Kepoolele Apau lived to the age of 127 years, 9 months, and 8 days, according to her obituary published in the Nov. 10, 1898 issue of The Independent. According to The Independent, she was born at Malama, Puna, on the Island of Hawaii. Her obituary in the Pacific Commercial Advertiser, published on its front page on Nov. 12, 1898, reports that she was born in Keahialaka, Puna, lived for some years in Honolulu, and died at the home of one of her sons. She and her husband had several sons and a daughter. A biography was published with Hawaii's 1896 census report. Indeed, the "Report of the General Superintendent of the Census, 1896" devotes five pages to the queries and methods used to confirm her approximate age, followed by recollections she shared of her long life.

"What a curious link with the past she is," write Emma M. Nakuina and W.D. Alexander in the report. "She must have been a little toddling child when Captain Cook came to the islands. She has seen the Monarchy of Hawaii consolidated and she has seen its fall. She remains to-day a monument of the past but one which must soon glide away and pass to the great unknown. We certify that the above statement is correct."

Another resource about her life is a feature story published on the front page of Hawaiian Gazette on Dec. 8, 1896. It includes mention of her service as attendant to Kapiolani I when she descended into Kilauea Crater to break the traditional kapu, as well as of her education and conversion to Christianity with Kapiolani. Her parents were Kapa and Kanealoha, of Puna, described as fisherfolk. 2603:800C:2300:16:F111:13E9:C4A3:918C (talk) 00:05, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

As credible as all the other claims listed at Longevity claims. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 01:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

green

although he's alive, 84 isn't green. this is different from all others. 64.83.140.155 (talk) 14:06, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

I hope this page stays

I've seen other list pages being deleted, I'm hoping this will not end up being another one. Bbonds775 (talk) 17:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

It's updated frequently (usually every few days) so i doubt it would ever be deleted. Jake11223344 (talk) 12:49, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Color at Deceased

There it is |#f9f9f9|Deceased| . #f9f9f9 is also at number column at living, observable on a dark theme. The main problem is that on dark mode browsers it looks white, and the rows are almost black. I can put ||Deceased| and will look black but white theme users will see white and rows color will be #f9f9f9 and someone will undo my edit. Or I can put #202122 to match exactly the black rows color but then a white theme user will surely undo my edit. On dark theme is very annoying. How to put #202122 for a dark theme and #f9f9f9 for a white theme? Costin.b.1 (talk) 09:33, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Ed Harlman

Burlington Iowa resident live to be 117 years old. 2604:2D80:D001:300:8C38:603D:9111:90A4 (talk) 14:37, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Do you have verification from either Guinness World Records or * Gerontology Research Group's (GRG) Table E (verified supercentenarians) and Table I? Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Longevity#Databases. Peaceray (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Oldest women

Search francisca susano from philippines. Shes 124 years old. 2403:4800:2412:7789:949C:D00B:A70A:62E3 (talk) 01:16, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

She hasn't been validated by any longevity research organisation. Jake11223344 (talk) 09:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)