Talk:List of active separatist movements in North America

El Norte (Northern Mexico) and Occidental Mexico autonomist and separatist movements

Doing some research, I've found that both Chicano and Norteño have subtle but still active separatist movements.

• This is the oldest mention I could find from a english-speaking source. [1]. Charles Truxillo, Dr. published in the Albuquerque Tribune in January 31th, 2000 his Plan del Norte, which was published once again in his personal page in google sites: [2]. In most of his reasearch, Dr. Charles Truxillo states that Chicano people and Norteño people were the same.
• The oldest reference in spanish I could find was published in March 16, 2002 in periódico La Jornada, where it mentions Sánchez-Navarro's Private State was the first attempt to create an independent state in New Spain. It also states about the "República del Río Bravo", which refers to the Republic of the Rio Grande (Rio Grande River is called Rio Bravo in official Mexican history) Link: [3]
• Norteño journalist and writer, Cesar Fernando Zapata, published an short article [4]
• A left-wing blog was created in 2010 to support an Aridoamerican Confederacy, no media coverage at all and seemed like a joke. [5] It has not been updated since 2015. Almost concurrently, a pro-aridoamerican account in twitter was created [6]. Content generated back then was criticised in March, 2013 by Spaniard leftist advocacy, Santiago Armesilla, accusing Norteño Separatism of being hispanophobic in its nature [7].
• 2013. [8]
• This article, published in a Colombian journal, explains factors about the Nuevo León's paradiplomacy [9]
• In September, 2017, a Facebook page, "República de México del Norte" gained relevant visibility, claiming that Mexican culture and politics were harmful for Norteño culture. A month after a discussion group in facebook was opened by Alejandro Reyes Galindo, an still unknown citizen of Nuevo León. This group remains active albeit not separatist anymore, but autonomist. [10]. Between the activities shown there, members are able to acquire a flag and through donations. They have published releases on international affairs[11].
• In August, 2018, right after the 2018 Mexican general election, Nuevo León's governor threatened with the independence of the state. [12].
• In December, 2018, a Norteño beer-brewing trademark, Carta Blanca launched a Norteño Pride advertisement campaign "Es Mi Norte" with positive reception. [13].
• In January (have to confirm this), 2019, the separatist asociación civil "Nuevo León Resurge" ("Nuevo León resurfaces") was founded by José Daniel Borrego, a regiomontano writer and criticist, and David Ogaz Diaz, a popular Lawyer from Chihuahua. [14]
• In June 10th, 2019, the three governors of the Rio Grande region pronounced an agreement for collaboration in internal security affairs.[15] in response to Mexican policy of sending military troops to fight crime. They met again in January 17th (the same day of the Republic of the Rio Grande independence) in 2020, to announce the achievements and outcomes of the treaty.
• Since October, 2019, Nuevo León car plates and driver licenses show a pro-Norteño slogan "Orgullo de Ser del Norte" (in English. "Proud of being from El Norte") and removed the word "Mexico". No news agency reported this as separatist expression.[16]
• In March 19th, 2020, the three governments of the Rio Grande region closed their borders to avoid COVID-19 spread. This action was deemed by the Mexican government and considered unnecessary, naming it "politicking" show. [17]
• In April 13th, 2020, #Nortexit became trending topic in both Twitter and Facebook. There was news coverage by major journals. [18][19]. Lots of users propagated an image depicting a Map of mexico and a division between the southern Mexican States and the Norteño-Abajeño-Occidental region with a #Nortexit naming the region [20]
• In September 3rd, after attending a demonstration near a Dam, Jessica Silva Zamarripa and her husband were shot by the Mexican Military, resulting in Jessica's death [21]. This act was considered "against Norteño people" by Chihuahuan protesters.
• In September 7th, five Norteño governors and other five Abajeño governors abandoned the CONAGO (a Mexican Governors organisation), claiming "...it does not defend states sovereignty anymore". [22]
• The new Alianza Federalista have threatened with "Breaking the 'Federal Pact'" if the President keeps avoiding to meet. [23]
• After the pronunciamiento made by the governors of the Alianza Federalista, Twitter users renewed the trending topic, #Nortexit. [24]

>President of Mexico says it is imposible that Norteño states could secede from Mexico. [25]

With all these I dare to say there exists a slow pacific movement for the secession of the El Norte.

Hectormgerardo (talk) 23:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Update: Jan 7th

• Separatist sentiment intensified on August 23rd, 2024. After Mexican elections, in a "Forum on Federalism and Taxation", Nuevo Leon's governor, Samuel García, called for a reform of the Mexican Fiscal Pact. [26]https://oem.com.mx/elsoldemexico/mexico/del-proyecto-aridoamerica-al-nortexit-toman-fuerza-las-posturas-separatistas-en-mexico-13119306
• On November 20th, 2024, Gilberto Lozano —known as a right wing troublemaker businessman from Monterrey, N.L.— has proposed the N.L. institute for elections to conduct a referendum on seccession from the Mexican Republic. Said proposition has been approved and it is expected to be executed on 2026.
• As additional context, the war in Sinaloa has caused rejection against Sinaloan Norteños, claimin' that they are involved with the cartel and the Mexican Government.

Hectormgerardo (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Propose changing "pressure group" term

It's a weird term and I'm not sure it accurately describes all regionalist movements. It can run the gamut from confrontational, political, or simply cultural identity groups. I don't think it applies to, say, Cascadia. I suggest "advocacy group" instead. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 17:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I think we should include both. Not all the advocates are actively pushing a secession. Do you personally think that open supporters (personalities) should appear on this page? Exempli gratia: Gilberto Lozano has openly promoted the independence of Nuevo Leon in Mexico. Is this enough reason to include him?

Other example is the Zapatista movement, the most famous personality was the Norteño activist Subcomandante Marcos, which could be included as an advocate. Hectormgerardo (talk) 18:45, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Facebook movement removed:

Aridoamerica

• Ethnic group: Northern Mexicans or "Nortenos".
  • De facto autonomous areas: Baja California, Baja California Sur, Sonora, Sinaloa, Chihuahua, Durango, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas states.
    • Proposed state: Autonomous States of Aridoamerica

Thingsomyipisntvisable (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to include it again. There are more advocacy groups today. Yucatan is also seeking for autonomy [27] Hectormgerardo (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

References

Statehood movements

Is there a reason Statehood movements that do not meet the requirments of "separatist movements" or "autonomist movements" are on this page particuarly when looking at USA and Canada? Thingsomyipisntvisable2 (talk) 17:15, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

A while back Baja Arizona got removed for that reason

But was restored due to the fact that subnational separatism is still separatism arguably

It was eventually removed anyway tho due to the fact that it had no movement. Rad da writer (talk) 09:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

The Republic of Man Pro Cool

The Republic of man pro cool is a break away country within the state of New Jersey, they have almost a full functioning government but cause they are smaller then the Vatican, they are not recognized. They have everything the USA has but just smaller. What do you think? Finnizkool (talk) 05:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Link required. Do you have a link? 曹白魚 (talk) 09:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)