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Proposed merge with Somalia's Italian language

Lots of duplicate information, but the loanwords section could be useful. —cnzx 23:58, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I totally DISAGREE. I have changed some of the duplicate information. Anyway, the loanloards section is related only to Italian words used in the Somali language and has nothing to do with the article about languages of Somalia. Then there are the paragraphs referenced to Siad Barre and to writer Cristina Ali Farah that are in the article about Somalia's Italian language, while are not cited in the article about Somalia languages. IMHO we should write additionally new articles about Somalia's Arab language & Somalia's English language and do not reduce the Wikipedia articles like proposed with this illogical merge. Wikipedia needs to grow (not the contrary)...--103tir (talk) 03:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@103tir: thank you for contributing to the new article. Judging from your response, I'm not sure you understand what merging is -- please take time to familiarize yourself with WP:MERGE. I like the content in the new article and think that it should stay, but also I'm concerned about the title, which is part of why I nominated it for merging (I don't like the possessive "Somalia's" which I think is unusual). There is also this issue of whether we should take content out of Languages of Somalia and move it into the article that you created, which may be more logical, or the other way around. Please feel free to share your suggested alternative. —cnzx (talk • contribs) 23:50, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I don't see how use of standard Italian in Somalia should be standalone from Languages of Somalia or Italian - and a merge to here makes sense.Icewhiz (talk) 12:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I DISAGREE. Same reasons of 103tir. Additionally IMHO I want to pinpoint that Siad Barre huge use of Italian is the main reason of the latin script in the Somalian language and this fact should be more enhanced in the article, while no word is found of this important fact in the article on Somalia language: clearly are needed two different articles here or the "simplification" will reduce the encyclopedia objectives.--Wrightip (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Cnzx: 0inner and 103tir were sockpuppets of Brunodam's, a long-term abuser. --Vituzzu (talk) 19:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced

My edits were sourced and each of them is verifiable. Is there any specifics you have in mind? 92.10.239.87 (talk) 19:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

proposal for deleting "Arabophobic sentence"

What relevance does the opinions of a European traveller from 2 centuries ago have in describing the social attitudes of Somalis today or even then, as he was recounting this experience his years later while he also was traveling through numerous other nations at the same time which could result in him overemphasizeing certain positions he encountered.

Regardless of whether his opinion was accurate for the early 1800s, it still is irrelevant unless this page was about social attitudes during the time, and nowhere else in this page list social attitudes about the other speakers of the languages listed. 92.236.211.53 (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will be removing the Arabophobia section again, as I attempted to reach out and get Skiitash (editor who has saved this section twice now) to discuss it's merits in this talk page. The request was deleted and I'm assuming accused of being a a sockpuppet, so I will not try again and if anyone has an issue with this, PLEASE discuss. 92.236.211.53 (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Official Languages

According to its constitution, the recognized official languages of Somalia are Somali and Arabic, as shown below:

"Article 5. Official Languages

The official language of the Federal Republic of Somalia is Somali (Maay and Maxaa-tiri), and Arabic is the second language."

https://web.archive.org/web/20130124010543/http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Aug_12/Somalia_Constitution_English_FOR_WEB.pdf

@Mahmood2028 If you have any sources supporting your claim that Arabic isn't an official language, discuss it here. Solanif (talk) 22:29, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In Somalia, the Arabic language is not used as an official language, and the Somali people do not speak Arabic, although it was recognized as a second language 12 years ago. However, there is a mismatch between what is on Wikipedia and what is in the Constitution.

So should on Wikipedia.

Official language: Somali, and

Second language: Arabic.

As written in the constitution.

Thanks 2A02:3037:269:256:CCC5:F7A:6C22:E901 (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The page mentions that Arabic is exoglossic. This does not change the fact that it remains an official language. Also, it has served as an official language much earlier than 12 years ago. Somali constitution, as amended up to October 12, 1990:

Article 4 (Official language)

The official languages of the state shall be Somali and Arabic.

https://wipolex-res.wipo.int/edocs/lexdocs/laws/en/so/so002en.pdf Solanif (talk) 21:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You should stop misleading and you should also follow our constitution and rules. we will also look at what you will write from our country. that is our constitution here

https://web.archive.org/web/20130124010543/http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Aug_12/Somalia_Constitution_English_FOR_WEB.pdf 2A02:3037:264:A70:64FB:13C7:A070:8A4 (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please also see the discussion at Talk:Somalia#Official languages. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:54, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Source 2o - something wrong

The link for source 20 (as of 21 April 2025) looks rather odd: "For First Time in History, Somalia Claims Socotra as Its Own hiv and aids statistics treatment of hiv aids hiv statisticsbest free text spy app spy text app 100 free spy apps for androidchlamydia test kits stdstory.com early signs of chlamydia- Yemen Post English Newspaper Online". www.yemenpost.net. Retrieved 2020-12-12" 130.237.181.141 (talk) 11:48, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]