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Lead reduplication

Ist lead sentence

The Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry, often called the Khazar myth by its critics,[1]:369[2]:VIII[3] is a largely abandoned historical hypothesis that has sometimes been abused to further antisemitic or anti-Zionist agendas.

Last lead sentence

The hypothesis has been abused at times by anti-Zionists to challenge the idea that Jews have ties to ancient Israel, and it has also played some role in antisemitic theories propounded by fringe groups of American racists, Russian nationalists and the Christian identity movement.

This violates the basic criteria of lead composition, and is a clear case of bludgeoning the point by repetition. Suggestions?Nishidani (talk) 22:30, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Nishidani. This sentence, starting with "The hypothesis..." is irrelevant to the facts that directly concern the article, and I believe it's an attempt to prejudice the reader towards a negative view of the theory. Iwasathought (talk) 21:44, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with Nishidani. Further, I'm concerned that these two _unsourced_ sentences both represent ad hominem attacks against unnamed opponents in an unrelated political discussion. This article is supposed to be based on science, and again and again it already makes the point that the Khazar hypothesis is likely false, while _using sourced material_. The two sentences detract from the existing arguments, by adding an _unsourced_ polemical statement attacking unnamed proponents of the Khazar hypothesis. A scientific hypothesis is true or false based on scientific evidence, not based on political agendas. I suggest to discard the two sentences, but if we decide to keep these two sentences, they should at least be under a separate header about political controversies, and there should be _sources_ citing the unnamed proponents of the Khazar hypothesis who have political agendas. Gene (talk) 17:46, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Minor typo: precises -> states

Would someone with privilege fix this typo?

I see in the heading "Studies on Ashkenazi Levites":

  precises that the particular R1a-Y2619 sub-clade testifies for a local origin

It's likely that "precises" was written based on the French word "préciser" (to state). So, the correct form should be:

  states that the particular R1a-Y2619 sub-clade testifies for a local origin

Thank you. - Gene (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Elhaik Criticism

The Elhaik research having a subsection with multiple paragraphs dedicated to criticism while the Behar section does not is not viewpoint neutral. Either a subsection critizing Behar's research or delete the subsection criticizing Elhaik to even the article out. 2603:8081:4A00:B792:AB1:89FD:1FB2:E07 (talk) 23:16, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]