Talk:John Roach (bishop)

John Roach (bishop) is currently a Philosophy and religion good article nominee. Nominated by ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} at 22:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Short description: 20th-century American Catholic bishop (1921–2003)

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A fact from John Roach (bishop) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 January 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Archbishop John Roach received a standing ovation for admitting his alcoholism?

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The result was: promoted by Hilst talk 14:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a Jesuit priest paid a man $20 to hit Archbishop John Roach with a chocolate-cream pie?

Source: Thorkelson, Wilmar (June 2, 1977). "Jesuit confesses paying for pie throw". The Minneapolis Star. p. 2. Retrieved December 30, 2024.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/4th and 26
Comment: 5x relies on copyvio; content removed here was word-for-word copied out of the physical book To Work for the Whole People: John Ireland's Seminary in St. Paul, currently source [1] in the article. Can provide photographic proof if needed.

5x expanded by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 23:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Will take your word for it that the removed content was copyvio (I have no access to the source). Overall article looks neat and competently referenced, all other criteria easily met. QPQ done. Hook is interesting although personally I find that it detracts from his overall life (what he was most notable/infamous for). Receiving a standing ovation for admitting to his alcoholism, for one, seems slightly more interesting to me than the fact that someone was paid twenty bucks to throw a chocolate pie at him. But that's just me, and by-and-large I think this article is GOOD TO GO. Happy new year, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 10:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Kingoflettuce:, good thought - I had been wondering about what other hooks were possible and considered something related to his alcoholism, but even though it's not a BLP I was sensitive to trying to have a very neutral hook—which is also why I left the reasoning/background for the pieing out of this one. I figured this is a pretty intriguing hook that will get people to click and read the whole bio. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 17:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]