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Marriage

It is not sure that Mussolini married Dalser because both in the comune municipality or in the roman catholic parish of Predappio and Supramonte no record of this marriage exist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucifero4 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mussolini had the marriage records destroyed after he came to power. The only proof that survived is a legal order from the Municipality of Milan ordering Mussolini to make maintenance payments for his wife Ida Dalser and their son. 103.40.74.200 (talk) 01:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage

The whole article is badly written. For example, Mussolini did not "leave Italy" to fight in WW I, in August of 1915 he was called up and by September was on the front in northeastern Italy. Other dates are wrong as well. And the entire tone is conspiratorial. 15:33, 13 February 2013 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Al-Nofi (talk • contribs)

"Divorce Italian Style"?

Might Mussolini's exceptionally cruel treatment of his first wife and their son be blamed at least in part on Italy's ban on divorce? If Mussolini's first marriage were recognized, then his second marriage would be found bigamous, hence void, and the five children he loved would be illegitimate. I am not an expert on this subject, but perhaps someone who knows more could add it to the article. Hcunn (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Look at the timeline. Mussolini took Rachele Guidi as his concubine in 1910 and their daughter Edda was born in September that year, but he didn't marry her. He left them behind in Forli, while he pursued his "socialist journalist" career in Trento and Milan. He then courted and married Ida Dalser for financial reasons in 1914 (she was a Paris-trained beautician with a steady income), and she gave birth to their son in 1915 while supporting Mussolini financially after he became unemployed. When Mussolini fell out with the socialists in Milan and so he didn't need Dalser anymore, he moved back to Forli (leaving Dalser and their son in Milan) and married Guidi bigamously for social reasons. His cruel treatment of Ida Dalser and their son was more about preventing his lack of personal integrity from becoming public knowledge. 103.40.73.139 (talk) 16:27, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

repeated coma-inducing injections

Is there any further information on what, exactly, "a coma-inducing injection" is (beyond an injection that induces comas)? Why was it carried out when he was already, "forcibly interned in an asylum"? If the fascist government were reluctant to execute him why was leaving him in a permanent torpor seen as the next best thing? I'm not questioning the legitimacy of the statement (people do all sorts of bizarre things all the time) rather why this needlessly complex rigmarole that apparently didn't work the way it was intended? Any new information is certainly welcome. Xenomorph erotica (talk) 11:45, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He was basically sedated so that he couldn't speak to the asylum staff and reveal that Mussolini was a bigamist. Executing Mussolini'sn son outright would've been a bad move politically, especially after the Giacomo Matteotti murder. 103.40.74.200 (talk) 01:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]