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0.5% of the US population?

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"Hinduism is a minority religion in the United States, American Hindus accounting for an estimated 0.5% of total US population."

The source cited for the opening statement to this article is a 404 link now, but 0.5% seems a little high.

Untitled

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The Krishnology subject portion in scholarship section is about research and work in the UK. Please follow links provided in section to see what I mean. Since this is about the US, I think that can go or changed to reflect that.. I will remove shortly. --Pranathi 23:30, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


History

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I haven't seen it stated anywhere that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi teaches Hinduism or that his students are Hindus.

--Sueyen 19:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iraivan

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Hello; I suggest that we include Iraivan temple in this article. It is the first all-stone, hand carved hindu temple in America. The fact that it has been able to raise $10 million so far from Americans, Indians, Malaysians and specially by disaporic Sri Lankans living in the US is noteworthy. See Iraivan on Google. Natha 21:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Population number

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Why have two different census counts, one from 2001, and one from 2004? Why not just put the more recent number in the beginning? Ykerzner (talk) 03:30, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindu Temples

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Whoever thought the first Hindu Temple was on the East Coast, really needs to start doing some research.

Hinduism on the East Coast is nothing compared to the ancient traditions and knowledge preserved in the California brought from India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indianamerican (talk • contribs) 22:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Congressional Prayer Interruption

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I can't remember the date or who did it, but I remember seeing a CSPAN clip on youtube about a Hindu priest who was opening up a prayer but was interrupted twice by Christian hecklers. Not sure if it was from the peanut gallery or the floor itself, but if someone could research that better that would be good. 161.185.151.150 (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it's not substantiated, it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.104.113.31 (talk) 07:01, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure Hindus are less affluent than the Jews?

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The article says Hindus are the second most affluent religion in the US, after the Jews.

This is a chart showing the incomes of the different religions: http://awesome.good.is/transparency/web/1002/almighty-dollar/flat.html

Surely people with incomes of $75,000 - $99,000 would be considered to be affluent as well, no? Hindus also have quite a significantly lower percentage (9%) of their population living in poverty, unlike the Jews (14%). But anyway, I would consider 65% of Hindus to be considered affluent, and 58% of Jews to be affluent. They might have a little more people earning $100,000+ a year, but Hindus also have like two times more people earning between $75,000 and $99,000 a year, so overall Hindus are more affluent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.5.148 (talk) 22:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

adding to the history section of this article

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what would you think if I added some information about the people in the 1960's who were influential in spreading the teachings of Hinduism throughout the counter culture. I want to talk briefly about Ram Dass, George Harrison,and Alan Ginsberg. What do you think?Banana suicide 28 (talk) 22:06, 20 February 2014 (UTC)Banana_suicide_28[reply]

Why is this page missing its anti hindu section? Talk section so lets talk

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wiki Christianity in india has information on church attacks,abuse,violance, yet when this page on hinduism in america shows no such information on temple attacks,racism, verbal attacks, abuse within the floor of The United States Senate over a hindu opening prayer, abuse aimed at the first hindu congress woman, so whats going on?

Here are highly public events which should be used on this page

  • First American congress Hindu attacked For taking oath on the hindu Bhagavad Gita & not the bible
  • American Temple attacks agianst hindus
  • Degrading remarks on hindus aired on live T.V in America By example (Pat Robertson & Tony Brown)
  • Anti hindu remarks from the American Family Association and other groups
  • perceived biases against Hindus and Jews in college campuses like The american Stanford University.
  • attacks inflicted on hindus in america which has led to death
  • Racial Profiling
  • Denver Post
  • False criminal charges against elderly Bhutanese refugee and Hindu priest In america
  • Defamation of Hinduism in an article in the San Francisco Chronicle
  • American Christian Pastor Tony Miano Digusting Comments after the nepal earth quake about how hindus should not rebuild their temples and shrines.
  • Los Angeles Times writer, Paul Watson equates Hinduism with just the worship of cows and snakes.
  • Morphed images of shiva depicting Obama on the cover of New York Times, Newsweek
  • In 2007 US denied the R-1 religious worker visa to hindu priest because of US regulations weighed in favour of Judeo-Christian terminology. (made headlines in 2007)

Just feel it is something which needs to be done to give fair and neutral view92.236.96.38 (talk) 22:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)Rabbitears[reply]

There is a discrimination section now. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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No of converted Americans

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The intro says: "Additionally, America has no number of converts to Hinduism". This is incorrect. There are many Americans who have converted to Hinduism. Can anybody confirm and make a correction? Polytope4D (talk) 07:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looks Fixed. It seemed to be a grammar issue no. was used for number. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Asian Religions in America

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 September 2022 and 9 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): IdekoTo (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Jlharry12345, RyGuyVerve, Thewulk.

— Assignment last updated by Ziegenbalg66 (talk) 00:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to section on discrimination

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This page is lacking in detail describing the discrimination that American Hindu’s and Immigrant Hindu’s face while in America. There is a brief list with little detail that could easily be interpreted as vandalism rather than discrimination. I plan to elaborate on these events as well as include different occasions relating to discrimination on Hindu American’s or the religion. I will include a section that discusses different religious holidays that are not acknowledged in the school systems for a Hindu Student’s, one such holiday is Diwali also written as Deepawali, which has just recently been given clearance by the New York City school district to be observed as a religious holiday. I also plan to include Representative Pudma Kuppa as an important figure in American Hinduism. Points will be included about discrimination she has faced as well as some of her work as an activist.

IdekoTo (talk) 05:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

there's a section on discrimination now. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:11, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re-evaluating source material

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This quote, "Hindu-Americans hold the highest levels of educational attainment among all religious communities in the United States. This is mostly due to strong US immigration policies that favor educated and highly skilled migrants" comes from a news article that does not properly list sources of this statement. Such a claim requires more statistical data to remain objective. IdekoTo (talk) 03:19, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Including a discussion of the limitations of the Pew Research study

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The study claims that "88% of Hindus believe in God" but I don't know if the possibility of confusion on what's meant by "God" should be mentioned. I briefly looked over the study and didn't find any discussion of the limitations so I don't know if I can include it because it would then be my own analysis. 240claytongearhart (talk) 02:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism is fifth largest religion not fourth largest because,there are more buddhists than hindus in usa

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Buddhism has more followers than hinduism in USA.The real ranking is, 1.Christainty 2.Judaism 3.Islam 4.Buddhism 5.Hinduism So,give right and accurate information to everyone.In fact,hinduism in usa has less than 1 percent followers. 103.42.228.109 (talk) 08:48, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - as you have cited no WP:Reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 09:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reliable source is american buddhists 103.42.228.109 (talk) 04:49, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
buddhism in the United States Buddhism in the United States 103.42.228.109 (talk) 04:51, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early Hindu Visitors

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I have removed the content with details on Sikh migrants to the US. There is a separate Wiki page for Sikhism in the United States, where this information would be better suited. However, I left the comments on racism towards all south Asian "Hindoos", as this directly applies to this page and section. Zenith4151 (talk) 16:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm most baffled by your edits, please clarify:
a This content should be included in both articles. It provides necessary context to illustrate the confusion that arises when imprecise labels are used to categorise people.
b This edit reflects your interpretation projected onto the source, not what the source actually states.
c You mention keeping comments on racism, yet you remove references to racialisation. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thank you for your comments but I still feel some of this paragraph does not belong on this page. My understanding is that Sikhism is a separate and distinct religion from Hinduism, so saying "The first wave of Hindu diaspora in America was predominantly Punjabi Sikhs" does not make sense and is a conflicting statement. A Sikh Gurudwara is also not a Hindu place of worship and is not relevant on this page. If the page/section was on the Indian diaspora in the United States, these sentences would work. Again, the sources information on racism towards Hindus applies for this page and is included as is. Zenith4151 (talk) 20:36, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per Wp:Brd, this is clearly a point where we do not see eye to eye, so I request that we discuss edits before inserting them into the main article. Your logic is confusing. On one hand, you argue that no reference to Sikhs should exist on this page, yet you find it acceptable to discuss racism directed at Hindus when the individuals in question were predominantly Sikhs. What admittedly needs clarification is how the construct of Hinduism was introduced by outsiders who did not realise they were conflating various groups under the term. See proposed rewrite below, I can then close out the paragraph about the 1917 legislation:
In the early 20th century, White Americans labelled all South Asian immigrants “Hindoos,” regardless of their religion, racialising them as an economic and cultural threat and leading to hostility, including violent attacks and forced expulsions by white workers in towns like Bellingham, Washington. In fact, the first wave of Hindu diaspora in America was predominantly Punjabi Sikhs, who migrated to the West Coast due to economic hardships in India. Many young men laboured in agriculture, railroads, and lumberyards, establishing communities and the first Sikh gurdwara in California by 1912. Sentiments intensified through organisations like the Asiatic Exclusion League and widespread media portrayal of an alleged "Hindoo invasion." In 1917, Congress passed an immigration bill that established a barred zone, which included India. [Altman, 146-8] LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree to discuss edits here before we update the article itself. I am not saying we don't include information on Sikh Punjabis, however the previous wording of the content was focused on Sikhs and their immigrant experience. With the current paragraph, it is more clear that Sikhs were mistaken and grouped into the Hindu category - which is a relevant point for this page. I still don't see how the Sikh diaspora information matters here, this sentence specifically - "Many young men laboured in agriculture, railroads, and lumberyards, establishing communities and the first Sikh gurdwara in California by 1912." should be removed, the rest of the information is relevant and contributes to the page directly. Zenith4151 (talk) 02:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree broadly with Zenith4151 (talk) on this issue
Content focussed on Sikhs should be part of the page focussed on them, Sikhism in the United States, and there is no need to duplicate that info here.
I disagree that just because White Americans wrongly labeled all South Asian immigrants “Hindoos,” regardless of their religion, this can justified to be included here in such detail. A very brief mention would suffice for historical reasons.
White Americans also wrongly labeled all Native Americans as Indians, but none of them is included in pages for Indians on Wikipedia. We should avoid spreading wrong information as much as possible. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 11:22, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also agree with Zenith4151 (talk) that
The first wave of Hindu diaspora in America was predominantly Punjabi Sikhs" does not make sense and is a conflicting statement.
Agree that A Sikh Gurudwara is also not a Hindu place of worship and is not relevant on this page.
As correctly mentioned, you may include that in Indian Americans page on the Indian diaspora in the United States. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 11:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The more I think about it, some of this content would indeed be better suited for the Indian Americans article and the Sikhism in the US article. At the same time, a blanket restriction on immigration from India affected everyone, so it is important to provide context. What do you all think of this rewrite?
In the early 20th century, White Americans labelled all South Asian immigrants “Hindoos,” regardless of their religion, racialising them as an economic and cultural threat and leading to hostility, including violent attacks and forced expulsions by white workers in towns like Bellingham, Washington. In 1917, Congress passed an immigration bill that established a barred zone, which included India. [Altman, 146-8] LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 21:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it appears this content duplicates information already covered in another section. I believe it would be more appropriate to relocate it from 'Discrimination' to the 'History' section as it pertains to the history of immigration. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 21:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it may be better to create a subsection within Discrimination for Early-era discrimination. RogerYg (talk) RogerYg (talk) 11:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the History of immigrants, we may mention discrimination briefly.
And details of discrimination may be given in Discrimination section. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 11:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RogerYg Thanks for this. This can help make it more readable. Asteramellus (talk) 23:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree to add a discrimination sub-section under the Early-era header to include the rewritten information. Zenith4151 (talk) 03:12, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding "The first wave of Hindu diaspora in America was predominantly Punjabi Sikhs" - I wonder what the source is saying. I don't have access to the source, but if anyone has, maybe take a look. Might be good to look for more sources also for this section. Asteramellus (talk) 23:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned, that should only be briefly mentioned here as it is covered in detail under Sikhism in the United States, and does not make much sense to duplicate all that information here. RogerYg (talk) 12:27, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that this content belongs in the Sikhism and Indians in the US articles. You had mentioned including a brief mention in this article, which I believe is important because it is difficult to separate the historical context of 'Hindoo' from 'Hinduism.' Could you propose what you have in mind so we all have a clearer idea of what exactly we can include in this article? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I waited seven days for input, but seeing none, I went ahead and reorganised the article. This is not a final product. I found it confusing to have three separate 'History' sections, and I also think it does not make sense to mention instances of discrimination against immigrants twice. For now, I have combined them under 'Immigration' and left the 'Discrimination' section to cover everything post-1950. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, yes we can work on improving the article, and I appreciate that you note that it's not a final product.
I do feel an incoherence in the one big History section. One aspect of the History of Hinduism in America is the history of Hindu & Dharmic philosophical/cultural concepts that involved philosophers like Ralph Waldo Emerson & Vivekanand, and scholars like Gerald James Larson. The visit by a Hindu scholar like Vivekanand is very different from the migration of Punjabi Sikh laborers.
The history of Hindu immigration is quite a different topic, as that involved the legal and racial struggles of those times and overlaps more with discrimination than with Hindu scholarship/philosophy.
Therefore, I would suggest to have separate sections for
Advent of Hindu philosophy (in America)
Early Hindu scholars from India
- Bhagavad Gita in America
- Influence on counter-culture movement
Hindu immigration (in America) { Proposed for future, when sufficient material}
- Early immigration struggles { Keeping under Discrimination for now}
I would make some updates and we can continue to discuss and improve upon it. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 06:55, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed a section title changed to "Early Hindu scholars from India", but I feel that title may not be appropriate if we are including details for example "Anandibai Joshi is believed to be the first Hindu woman..." Not quite sure what it would mean by "Hindu scholars". Asteramellus (talk) 01:48, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for raising that point, which I somehow missed.
I have added a new section on "Emphasis on Higher education", and moved Anandibai Joshi details there, as she was not a Hindu scholar. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 11:30, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
also thanks for improving this page and want to note another page Hinduism in Los Angeles that I came across (which can also be improved) - has some sources with historical details. Asteramellus (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"which also includes Buddhism" in the lead

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I see couple of edits/revert around "which also includes Buddhism". I think is undue in the lead, and it is not even being discussed in any way in the body. Unless someone disagrees with good reasons to keep, I can remove it. Asteramellus (talk) 23:22, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree here, Buddhism is not necessary to mention, especially in the header - which is supposed to highlight the contents of the article. Zenith4151 (talk) 03:16, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, removed the mention of "which also includes Buddhism", as discussed. Thanks RogerYg (talk) 11:37, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Copy editing message be removed

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The Copy editing message was added in dec 2023 regarding grammar, style, cohesion, tone or spelling. The grammar and style has been reasonably updated to remove the message as of Feb 2025. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 22:24, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, I will keep an eye out for any other areas that could benefit from copy edits. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 02:32, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Avoid duplicate information

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This article as per title is for Hinduism in America and Hindu Americans. As per WP:SIZE and WP:LENGTH, the information on this page accordingly should be relevant to the article. Information from other Indian American topics is covered in other relevant wiki articles.

Please avoid duplicating information from other Wiki articles here unless there is a consensus to include such content here. Information that is relevant to other Wiki topics should be added to appropriate Wiki articles such as

Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 21:17, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Don't remove the content about caste discrimination faced by Hindu Dalits. It is more important than lots of WP:UNDUE content you are parking to this article. Koshuri (グ) 03:51, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, we can discuss more about content added by you before deleting it, mainly my concerns are whether it is WP:DUE for this article per WP:LENGTH. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 22:22, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile, it is important to add relevant context content per WP:CONTEXT briefly as
Casteism is a form of discrimination based on the social hierarchy mainly prevalent in South Asia manifested through slurs and social exclusion. The oppressed castes of South Asia, known as Dalits, form 1.5% of all Indian immigrants to the United States, according to a University of Pennsylvania study carried out in 2003.. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 22:25, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, per WP:NPOV it is important to include the perspective of Hindu American groups on introduction of Caste laws in US. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 22:26, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RogerYg @Koshuri Sultan I see many edits recently on this page, and I think we need to look at sources cited and also read WP:NOT, and discuss if the content is relevant here. I think many recent additions are undue on this page because reading some of the sources, in some sources, I don't even see Hinduism mentioned - it reads more like a social/society issue with various terms used like Indian/South Asian etc. Adding more content by saying "lots of WP:UNDUE content you are parking to this article" should not be the reason to add undue content.
Also, just want to note what I noticed from a quick read from the source cited for the sentence "The survey also documents personal anecdotes about discrimination and isolation at schools, workplaces, temples and within communities":
1. Seems there might be copyright violation with the words taken from the source "personal anecdotes about discrimination and isolation at schools, workplaces, temples and within communities"
2. Reading that sentence and the source, I am not clear how it is relevant to Hinduism and relevant to this page. It reads more of a social/society issue rather than a religion (i.e Hinduism) causing the issue. But, want to discuss what others are thinking here - maybe I am reading it differently. Asteramellus (talk) 01:25, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Asteramellus (talk),
I agree that many of the additions in "Caste discrimination" are WP:UNDUE for this page.
Two paragraphs have been duplicated from Persecution of Dalits, which I tried to remove, but my edit was reverted. Then, I had to add some relevant content per WP:CONTEXT and WP:NPOV to balance the section.
I agree that statement you mentionted should be removed from this page: "personal anecdotes about discrimination and isolation at schools, workplaces, temples and within communities"
Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 01:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all,
Agreeing with @RogerYg that duplicate and irrelevant content on this page should be avoided, especially if whole pages exist specifically for that topic. Aligning with @Asteramellus that much of the section on caste discrimination is referring to social issues and has very little to do with Hinduism in the US.
@Koshuri Sultan adhere to WP:BRD rather than reverting after a talk page discussion is started. What you deem "more important" does not determine what should be on the page, it should be based on general consensus, reliable sources and relevance to the overall topic. Zenith4151 (talk) 02:43, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Add "Citation needed" tag where appropriate

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Please add Citation needed {{ }} tag, where appropriate, instead of deleting relevant content.

Hi Qalb alasid (talk, Thanks for your contribution to this article. I think instead of deleting relevant content, please add a missing citation tag, so that other editors may add the citations. For example, you deleted [1] which also had relevant Wiki links Ram Dass and Jeffery Kagel.

Instead, I would humbly suggest to include [citation needed] tag, or a more comprehensive (with date) [citation needed]. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. Once a tag is placed as such, how long until the content can be removed?
Qalb alasid (talk) 12:54, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, It usually depends on the type of Wiki article, and type of content.
For Biographical articles, it would be much more strict, a few days.
But for a general article like this one, it's usually at least few weeks to few months. I would suggest 1 month, since this article has very few active editors to make neccessary updates. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 14:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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