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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:09, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Gr8gibsoni (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

Launchballer 14:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hi Launchballer, many thanks for expanding this great article. Are you OK to share credit with User:Gr8gibsoni, given that their original creation is within the 7 days so also qualifies? On the hook, I am fine with either of the top two hooks. On the first, the Guardian source seems to have been written before the show aired – are you sure they formally decided to dispense with rotating presenters? And on the second, I couldn’t see the 20 years mentioned in the Guardian article, and I don’t have access to the Telegraph article – would it be possible to bring a quote? Onceinawhile (talk) 06:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian refers to the British version dispensing with guest hosts in 2002 and that piece was written in 2024. Regarding the Telegraph, if you're quick, you can just use Ctrl+A --> Ctrl+C to copy the article elsewhere before reading it or you can use archive.ph to archive it. However, upon rereading it, I don't see where it spells out that it was in fact broadcast (he could conceivably have been given a preview copy) so I've added one that does. I have no objection to sharing credit.--Launchballer 10:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK thank you Launchballer. Let’s go with ALT0 re guest host / permanent host. Please could you add a sentence into the article to make this crystal clear – to my read, someone clicking through to find out what the hook was referring to will struggle to piece it together at the moment. Ideally the new sentence would be supported by a source which states explictly that the show will have a permanent host (this is implied in every source I have read, but not quite spelled out in most cases). Onceinawhile (talk) 11:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Latenighter.com, which I've just added, writes that "Have I Got News For You, CNN’s highly-anticipated new comedy program, has found its host in The Daily Show veteran Roy Wood Jr.", emphasis mine. (It's a shame that UKGameshows.com probably isn't reliable.)--Launchballer 12:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go! Onceinawhile (talk) 07:11, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


mdy or dmy dates?

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I am confused as to why dmy dates is used when the show is an American one. I know MOS:RETAIN exists, and the show is based on a British show, but wouldn't that mean that other articles based on shows that are not American should use dmy? Like The Voice (based on The Voice of Holland, which is Dutch), Survivor (based on Robinson, which is Swedish), and if you need direct British examples, have House of Cards, Whose Line Is It Anyway?, The Office, etc. I'd argue that the "national tie" is much closer to American than British. Spinixster (trout me!) 01:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page title

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Shouldn't this be (American TV show) rather than (American game show)? G. Timothy Walton (talk) 15:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. What makes this not a game show?--Launchballer 15:37, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

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Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 04:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: It is a wonderful world (talk · contribs) 15:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]


I'll review IAWW (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer Some of the review is below. I'll wait for reliability concerns to be addressed before reviewing the prose and doing the spot check. IAWW (talk) 15:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Launchballer, just some minor comments below. IAWW (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer Great, you have addressed my concerns. Passing now. IAWW (talk) 20:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Prose (Criteria 1a, 1b, 4) Magenta clockclock

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Lead

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Looks good :)

Gameplay

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Wood shows the teams clip packages referencing a major news story from the last week: And what do the teams have to do? IAWW (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tell him what the story is. I added this.--Launchballer 20:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Background

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who was grilled by Hislop on his appearance: Unnecessary detail IAWW (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trimmed.--Launchballer 20:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History

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Looks good

Reception

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which was significantly more: "significantly" is an opinion IAWW (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Trimmed.--Launchballer 20:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes

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Looks good :)

Sources checkY

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Health/formatting (Criterion 2a) checkY

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No issues for GA

Reliability (Criterion 2b) checkY

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Rolling stone [1] is a generally unreliable source in politics (WP:RSP). It's statements should be attributed or cut. IAWW (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I had a similar issue at another GA recently, but 'unreliable source in politics' does not mean 'unreliable for articles about politics'. It means 'unreliable for statements about politics'. So far as I can tell, all the claims WP:ROLLINGSTONE is used for come under culture matters - are there any you would consider contentious?--Launchballer 15:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair enough. I'll do the prose review soon. IAWW (talk) 16:05, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Salon [3] is also considered biased and opinionated. It's statements should be attributed (WP:RSP). IAWW (talk) 15:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cut.--Launchballer 15:56, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any obvious issues with the rest.

Spot check (Criteria 2b, 2c, 2d) checkY

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Spot check based on this version.

[8]: checkY

[22a]: checkY

[33]: checkY

[37]: checkY

As always very good source text-integrity from you!

Copyvio (Criterion 2d) checkY

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Earwig doesn't find any issues. Since all the sources are online, it's very unlikely to have missed anything.

Scope (Criteria 3a, 3b) checkY

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Appears to cover everything

Stable (Criterion 5) checkY

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Media checkY

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Tags (Criterion 6a) checkY

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Captions (Criterion 6b) checkY

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Suggestions (not needed for GA promotion)

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Suggest archiving sources to prevent link rot.

There is some inconsistent linking of publishers.

[20] is missing a publisher and author

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