Talk:Harry Sisson (influencer)
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Harry Sisson EU Citizenship
[edit]Hello,
it is important to include Harry’s dual citizenship with Ireland. Claiming Harry is an “American” social media influencer without including his Irish citizenship is misleading because he has spent more of his life in Ireland and other countries than in the United States. He became involved in U.S. policies the year he moved to the United States in 2020 at the age of 17. Please include this in the opening paragraph. Thank you 111.118.219.234 (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Very important to note, he was born in Singapore, before living in Dubai then Ireland, before immigrating to the US in 2020. 2604:CA00:160:67B1:0:0:E60:12D0 (talk) 12:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- He did not “immigrate” to the United States as he was already a citizen. It is important to say “European American social media influencer” or such in the first paragraph. His parents are heavily involved in Irish and EU politics, and so is Harry at times. There also needs to be a section that at least lists his citizenship which should only include the United States and Ireland (EU) as Singapore does not allow dual citizenship. 111.118.219.234 (talk) 18:14, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
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The opening paragraph should change "American influencer" to "European influencer" or "European-American influencer". He is legally European as he is a citizen of Ireland. His parents are heavily involved in EU Politics. He started posting political content since before he even stepped foot in the United States at the age of 17. Claiming he is American is misleading when he was born in Singapore, lived briefly in the United Arab Emirates then grew up in Ireland at a private school. He spent substantial amount of time in other parts of Europe as well as an EU citizen. It would not be consistent with other pages of celebrities to claim Harry is solely American. His European citizenship needs to be included. 49.255.51.130 (talk) 04:51, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 12:56, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Source: “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York City.” (YouTube: Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office) and he has said on his Q&A TikTok LIVEs that he is a dual citizen of Ireland and United States. It is extremely misleading to not include the fact that he is also legally a European. He did not grow up in America. Please replace “Harry J. Sisson (born 2002) is an [American] influencer” with European, European-American, or even perhaps Irish-American and include his citizenships in the profile. 101.115.199.49 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
- Random YouTube videos generally don't meet our definition of WP:RS. Please provide a citation to an academic journal, a mainstream news outlet, a book from a major publishing house, a .edu website, or a statement from a website or social media channel verifiably controlled by Sisson. Chetsford (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Prove that he’s American 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Harry Sisson (HarryJSisson):
- ”I went to school in Dublin, Ireland. Not a single active shooter drill was done. Wasn’t necessary.
- During my first week of school after moving back to the US, I was huddled into a corner with my classmates.”
- - May 2022 on his X
- (https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704) 49.255.51.130 (talk) 06:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Random YouTube videos generally don't meet our definition of WP:RS. Please provide a citation to an academic journal, a mainstream news outlet, a book from a major publishing house, a .edu website, or a statement from a website or social media channel verifiably controlled by Sisson. Chetsford (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Source: “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York City.” (YouTube: Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office) and he has said on his Q&A TikTok LIVEs that he is a dual citizen of Ireland and United States. It is extremely misleading to not include the fact that he is also legally a European. He did not grow up in America. Please replace “Harry J. Sisson (born 2002) is an [American] influencer” with European, European-American, or even perhaps Irish-American and include his citizenships in the profile. 101.115.199.49 (talk) 14:32, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Harry Sisson is a citizen of European Union
[edit]Hello, please change “an American influencer” to “a European influencer” or “a European-American influencer” as Harry Sisson has Irish citizenship according to his TikTok LIVE Q&As and the video of him in the Oval Office with Joseph Biden. He is legally European under the Lisbon Treaty. It is completely disingenuous to call him American when he tells the 46th President “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York.” People need to know to which countries he holds legal obligations to since he is a political figure now. 2405:6E00:2651:BC4E:9D7:60C8:8786:7726 (talk) 14:52, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources for the change you want made. Chetsford (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
I’d like to expand on the proposal by 2405:6E00… from February 9, 2025, regarding Harry Sisson’s citizenship and the suggestion to change “an American influencer” to “a European influencer” or “European-American influencer”. The argument that Sisson’s Irish background and potential EU citizenship (via the Lisbon Treaty, Article 20 AEUV) should be reflected is worth considering, especially since the article already describes him as “an Irish influencer” who “grew up in Dublin, Ireland”. However, as Chetsford noted, reliable secondary sources (WP:RS) explicitly confirming his Irish citizenship are still missing.
The proposer cites TikTok LIVE Q&As and a video with Joe Biden where Sisson allegedly said, “I grew up in Dublin, Ireland but I live in New York”. This supports his Irish upbringing but doesn’t legally prove citizenship. I’ve checked available sources: - Sportskeeda (https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/what-allegations-harry-sisson-snapchat-grooming-controversy-explored-multiple-alleged-victims-come-forward) and The Times of India (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/who-is-harry-sisson-democrat-influencer-under-attack-for-manipulating-women-to-share-explicit-videos/articleshow/119196690.cms) confirm he grew up in Dublin but don’t mention his citizenship status. - No sources I found explicitly state whether he holds Irish citizenship, U.S. citizenship, or both.
Born in 2002, Sisson could have Irish citizenship if born in Ireland before the 2005 law change (when ius soli ended) or through Irish parents, and his current U.S. residence suggests possible dual citizenship, but this remains unverified without official records. Suggestion: Keep “an Irish influencer” as it’s supported by the current article and avoids unproven citizenship claims. “European influencer” assumes EU citizenship without evidence, and “European-American influencer” implies dual citizenship, also unconfirmed. A neutral option could be: “Harry J. Sisson is an Irish influencer based in the United States, known for…”. This reflects his background and current life accurately. If anyone has a news report or official document verifying his citizenship(s), please share. Happy to assist further! ArticleWriter28 (talk) 11:04, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Please change “American Influencer” to “Irish-American Influencer”
[edit]Harry Sisson is a citizen of Ireland and grew up in Dublin, Ireland according to himself when speaking with President Joe Biden in the Oval Office. There are clips on YouTube of his conversation with President Biden where he says this. His parents are also heavily involved in Irish and European Union politics. Transparency in his dual citizenship is important to the integrity of Wikipedia or this Wikipedia page should be deleted if you are not going to allow transparent undeniably true information. 65.181.23.129 (talk) 01:00, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done Please provide reliable sources for the change you want made. Chetsford (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is a lie. He literally cited the YouTube video “Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office” where Harry Sisson says “I live in New York but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland”. Stop hiding that the kid is European. It’s misrepresentation to say he’s an American influencer when he grew up in Ireland. 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- YouTube videos are not a universally reliable source. If it's a YouTube video from an account controlled by an otherwise reliable source, it might be a reliable source. But as of this moment, no one has been able to actually provide a link to said video, nor even the name of the account that uploaded it. So, an allegation that a random YouTube video might exist but that we can't actually view it, we just have to take the word of an anonymous IP address that claims it exists, is not sufficient to overcome the significant source veracity requirements required under our WP:BLP policy. Chetsford (talk) 06:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- I gave u the name of the video. Wikipedia doesn’t let me post the link. Here is a link from Google videos: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=1997917216045473&hl=en-us&q=Liberal+boy+influencer+Harry+Sisson+meets+his+idol,+Joseph+R.+Biden,+in+the+Oval+Office&udm=7&fbs=ABzOT_Dgt8iPZ9gW18rC6PlWgCdc1D_JMUuheiZDX6zm8J7gz6KTOxGAX5XUkk8BOOu6U3trIZRMfO_z8E30mgdbViPfVKm1NnctoOSUFGdao2kgPzKJ55kMJ5sryix8G1XrfpbSPsX1-HWCbmxAcWAUdHnQkW1Cr6KpjmioGa2AFZW3ap8zyJB7_QRqFB_XChcjXjcfl7YA60FDRS_x5y1Zxn93FrsN-RWd4SVsDTkG6u-NUglQ9Q4&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi0gaf-n9SLAxWre2wGHQIlFHwQtKgLegQIDBAB&biw=402&bih=675&dpr=3 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here is his own tweet: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:34, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Here is another video of Harry saying he grew up in Dublin, Ireland: https://x.com/akafaceus/status/1828158406370435271?s=46 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Also another source showing Harry is European:
- https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/political-thirst-traps-hacktivism-gen-z-for-change/
- “Harry Sisson
- Yeah. So, you know, I first started getting involved in politics back in 2016. I was living in Ireland at the time, and, you know, being in Europe and kind of watching the 2016 election unfold from there with all these, you know, these European folks being like, what is going on America? I’m like, I know, right? But then, you know, similar to Olivia, when the COVID pandemic struck, I was meant to give him my TED talk, and it got cancelled because of COVID. And so I was kind of inside and I was like, bored, you know, I was just watching the news and everything unfold and I was like, I feel like I’m not doing enough. I feel like I have to, you know, correct some of the lies that are being told from the on the right and so in such so I was like, why not just hop on TikTok and start making videos and it just kind of kind of grew from there and it’s come to this point where you know, every day debating with conservatives and reading the news and keeping up with everything, and it’s definitely a grind. But it’s, you know, it’s amazing. It really is.“ 123.103.221.5 (talk) 07:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [1] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. If it were, we might be able to use it under WP:ABOUTSELF. But it's from an account called @akafaceUS so would not be covered by ABOUTSELF. I'll let someone else look at the rest of the links. Chetsford (talk) 09:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Stop lying. Here is his own tweet as I posted before: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 09:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [2] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. I don't know what else to tell you. You can activate the WP:EDITREQUEST flag if you'd like someone else to consider it, though. Or the other sources you provided, which I didn't look at. Chetsford (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- The user is literally HarryJSisson as you can see in the link 123.103.221.5 (talk) 10:11, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [2] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. I don't know what else to tell you. You can activate the WP:EDITREQUEST flag if you'd like someone else to consider it, though. Or the other sources you provided, which I didn't look at. Chetsford (talk) 09:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Stop lying. Here is his own tweet as I posted before: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 123.103.221.5 (talk) 09:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This [1] X post is not from Harry Sisson's X account. If it were, we might be able to use it under WP:ABOUTSELF. But it's from an account called @akafaceUS so would not be covered by ABOUTSELF. I'll let someone else look at the rest of the links. Chetsford (talk) 09:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- YouTube videos are not a universally reliable source. If it's a YouTube video from an account controlled by an otherwise reliable source, it might be a reliable source. But as of this moment, no one has been able to actually provide a link to said video, nor even the name of the account that uploaded it. So, an allegation that a random YouTube video might exist but that we can't actually view it, we just have to take the word of an anonymous IP address that claims it exists, is not sufficient to overcome the significant source veracity requirements required under our WP:BLP policy. Chetsford (talk) 06:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- This is a lie. He literally cited the YouTube video “Liberal boy influencer Harry Sisson meets his idol, Joseph R. Biden, in the Oval Office” where Harry Sisson says “I live in New York but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland”. Stop hiding that the kid is European. It’s misrepresentation to say he’s an American influencer when he grew up in Ireland. 123.103.221.5 (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
EDIT REQUEST: Please change “American Influencer” to “Irish-American Influencer” for transparency
[edit]Harry Sisson is an Irish citizen and grew up in Ireland and got involved in U.S. politics before he moved to the U.S. while he was living in the EU. It is disingenuous to not mention his citizenships or where he grew up. He does not have the experiences of the average American. Sources:
1. Harry’s tweet: https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/1530316396504264704 “I went to school in Dublin, Ireland…”
2. Harry Sisson in a transcript from an interview: https://lemonadamedia.com/podcast/political-thirst-traps-hacktivism-gen-z-for-change/ “ Yeah. So, you know, I first started getting involved in politics back in 2016. I was living in Ireland at the time, and, you know, being in Europe and kind of watching the 2016 election unfold from there with all these, you know, these European folks being like, what is going on America? I'm like, I know, right?…” - Harry Sisson
3. His visit to the Oval Office with Joe Biden: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZT2fK9SNp/ “…I live in NYC but I grew up in Dublin, Ireland…” - Harry Sisson
4. Him discussing his birthplace and where he grew up: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZT2fKmPuD/ 123.103.221.5 (talk) 10:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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Change American Influencer to European American Influencer 123.103.221.5 (talk) 11:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Replicative Cloverleaf (talk) 11:21, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
- Are there any reliable sources that he's American? 68.3.202.57 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Not rlly 125.254.125.183 (talk) 11:26, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Are there any reliable sources that he's American? 68.3.202.57 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Please ban Chetsford from editing this page
[edit]Chetford keeps removing true and relevant information such as citizenship. RakowskiC (talk) 03:11, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- "tapesearch.com" is not a WP:RS - thanks Chetsford (talk) 03:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- It literally is the transcript of a podcast of Harry Sisson saying he is Irish. How do you cite a podcast? RakowskiC (talk) 03:40, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Chetsford, why are you trying to hide that Harry Sisson has Irish citizenship? RakowskiC (talk) 03:47, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've updated the citation to Template:Cite AV media and expanded it. Material related to WP:BLPs, particularly potentially contentious labels, needs to be carefully cited and able to pass WP:V. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Chetsford (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oh wow you’re pretty cool bro. Thank you RakowskiC (talk) 06:13, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've updated the citation to Template:Cite AV media and expanded it. Material related to WP:BLPs, particularly potentially contentious labels, needs to be carefully cited and able to pass WP:V. My apologies for any misunderstanding. Chetsford (talk) 04:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Proposal: Add Controversies Section on Snapchat Allegations
[edit]I propose adding a new "Controversies" section to the article to address recent allegations against Harry Sisson regarding his alleged behavior on Snapchat. These allegations, emerging in March 2025, have gained significant media and public attention, backed by multiple reliable sources. Here’s a proposed text:
"In March 2025, Harry Sisson faced allegations from at least eleven women who claimed he manipulated them via Snapchat into sending explicit photos by deceiving them about the exclusivity of their interactions. The accusations were first publicized by journalist Sarah Fields on X on March 18, 2025, supported by TikTok videos and screenshots from the accusers.[1][2][3][4][5] Reports named specific accusers, such as Carlee Hosch, who alleged a nine-month interaction where Sisson implied a committed relationship before admitting non-exclusivity, and Sara, a domestic violence survivor, who claimed he assured her she was the only one sending such photos. Other accusers, including Diana and Hannah, reported similar experiences, with Hannah calling him 'sick' and 'perverted.' The allegations drew heightened scrutiny due to Sisson’s public advocacy for women’s rights, prompting criticism of perceived hypocrisy. Sisson allegedly called the accusers 'crazy' and urged at least one to retract her claims, but as of March 20, 2025, he has not issued a formal public response. The controversy sparked widespread online debate, with some labeling his actions 'predatory' and others dismissing it as overblown. Notably, Sisson’s videos continued to attract millions of views, while the accusers’ accounts received far less attention."
This proposed section provides a detailed, balanced, and well-sourced update, reflecting a significant event in Sisson’s public life. The allegations are supported by five sources:
- New York Post
- Hindustan Times
- The Times of India
- The Economic Times
- The Express Tribune
These sources ensure broad and reliable coverage, with less reliable sources (Sportskeeda, ComingSoon.net, Jobaaj Stories) removed to meet WP:RS standards. Only reputable, trustworthy sources with editorial oversight are now included. I’ve included specific details—like named accusers (Carlee Hosch, Sara, Diana, Hannah), Sisson’s reported reaction, and public responses—while keeping the text concise and aligned with source material. The visibility gap between Sisson’s content and the accusers’ videos remains an unexpected aspect. I’d appreciate feedback, help integrating this into the article, or suggestions for further adjustments, especially regarding source reliability or BLP compliance. Thank you! ArticleWriter28 (talk) 10:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- The sources you're suggesting are largely not WP:RS. Chetsford (talk) 02:18, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Bro you literally removed what we cited from the FEC regarding his payments. You can’t just unilaterally remove true undeniable facts. How about instead of just removing everything, you make it comply. This stuff is all over the news including the New York Post. RakowskiC (talk) 03:08, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Just make one tab called Snapchat Scandal and the other tab PAC payments RakowskiC (talk) 03:10, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- RakowskiC - to be quite honest, I'm not really all that interested in Harry Sisson. However, this is on my watchlist and I'm compelled to apply some policing with respect to our WP:BLP policies. However, I understand your frustration so how about this: if you open a thread at WP:BLPN and explain to the editors there the issue we're having here, I'll immediately unwatchlist this article, stop making any edits to it, and you can add whatever you like to your heart's content. Chetsford (talk) 03:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, Chetsford. I’ve updated my proposal above, adding the New York Post as a source, which should help address WP:RS concerns. Let me know what you think! ArticleWriter28 (talk) 10:45, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- @ArticleWriter28, the New York Post is not an acceptable source for controversial content about living people; see its entries in the perennial sources table. Schazjmd (talk) 21:20, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your input, Schazjmd. I see the concern about the New York Post for controversial BLP content per the perennial sources list. It’s one of five sources in my updated proposal, alongside Hindustan Times, The Times of India, The Economic Times, and The Express Tribune—all reputable outlets with editorial oversight. The story broke on X by Sarah Fields, but I’ve relied on these news sources for verification. Would you suggest keeping all five or dropping the New York Post, given the others’ strength? ArticleWriter28 (talk) 22:30, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- As is clear in the articles cited, those sources are simply repeating the accusations made on social media; the only verification they're making is that those are what the tweets said. If you get consensus to add a mention of this to the article, I suggest keeping just the first sentence; the details and the names of non-public individuals are undue. Also, please keep in mind the policy on biographies of living people:
"Biographies of living persons ("BLPs") must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment."
Schazjmd (talk) 21:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- As is clear in the articles cited, those sources are simply repeating the accusations made on social media; the only verification they're making is that those are what the tweets said. If you get consensus to add a mention of this to the article, I suggest keeping just the first sentence; the details and the names of non-public individuals are undue. Also, please keep in mind the policy on biographies of living people:
- Thanks for your input, Schazjmd. I see the concern about the New York Post for controversial BLP content per the perennial sources list. It’s one of five sources in my updated proposal, alongside Hindustan Times, The Times of India, The Economic Times, and The Express Tribune—all reputable outlets with editorial oversight. The story broke on X by Sarah Fields, but I’ve relied on these news sources for verification. Would you suggest keeping all five or dropping the New York Post, given the others’ strength? ArticleWriter28 (talk) 22:30, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- @ArticleWriter28, the New York Post is not an acceptable source for controversial content about living people; see its entries in the perennial sources table. Schazjmd (talk) 21:20, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'll note that multiple other sources have covered this since this suggestion was added. Among them:
- South China Morning Post
- The Hill
- MSN
- I think given that a very sizeable number of people first heard about Sisson through this controversy and it's been extensively covered by this point - significant enough for his management agency dropping him over the matter - I would agree that this section should be added.
- It might additionally be worth adding Robert O'Neill's threat to take Sisson as a concubine a few months back (though the only reliable source covering that has been Huffington Post). Catjerine (talk) 06:27, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- MSN is an aggregator of other sources and is thus not WP:RS. Can you please provide links to the SCMP and The Hill coverage? Simonm223 (talk) 11:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- OK so I found the articles myself. The Hill describes the incident as "just rumour mongering at this point" with the remainder of the segment being the host reading tweets in a snarky voice. At one point he literally starts laughing at the tweets. Then he says "these accusations are complete S.H.I.T. and it is laughable to me." Basically we have a hilarious situation of a reliable source commenting on social media furor specifically to call it insignificant, unimportant and unworthy of attention.
- [3]
- The SCMP article starts by briefly describing that the accusations exist before devoting the majority of the article to a puff-piece profile of Sisson. [4]
- So far I would call these both reliable sources commenting on this incident but, considering the view of one of the sources is that this really isn't worth reporting on, I'd say it'd be highly undue to make a whole "controversies" section regarding it. I would support a single line saying,
In March, 2025 Republican state delegate Sarah Fields posted claims to social media that Sisson had manipulated 11 women into sharing "racy photos" (ref to SCMP). These accusations were described by Robby Soave as laughable. (ref to The Hill).
Simonm223 (talk) 12:52, 27 March 2025 (UTC)- I've already edited the page enough, so I felt it was better to ask here than preemptively make the edit again. Harry seems to have made a response to the drama (https://www.tiktok.com/@harryjsisson/video/7486235683615493407) (which also further makes my original edit obsolete), and I was wondering if it was notable enough to mention in the article GrandDuchyConti (talk) 18:49, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Tiktok is blocked from my work computer so I can't review what he said but I'd just ask this: did he do anything other than say "I didn't do that?" Simonm223 (talk) 18:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- The abridged version is that he said that he said he did message multiple people and should have told them that he was also messaging other people, and that he regretted it, but also went on to state that "MAGA Republicans" had blown it wildly out of proportion for their benefit and that he hadn't been in a relationship with anyone (among other details), and that it was a "casual thing. He also stated that they shouldn't have shared personal details of his. He said other things but they aren't relevant to this page. GrandDuchyConti (talk) 19:09, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Tiktok is blocked from my work computer so I can't review what he said but I'd just ask this: did he do anything other than say "I didn't do that?" Simonm223 (talk) 18:59, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I've already edited the page enough, so I felt it was better to ask here than preemptively make the edit again. Harry seems to have made a response to the drama (https://www.tiktok.com/@harryjsisson/video/7486235683615493407) (which also further makes my original edit obsolete), and I was wondering if it was notable enough to mention in the article GrandDuchyConti (talk) 18:49, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- MSN is an aggregator of other sources and is thus not WP:RS. Can you please provide links to the SCMP and The Hill coverage? Simonm223 (talk) 11:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- At what point can we add the controversy to the Wikipedia page. Obviously it’s not much to Harry Sisson if he’s willing to tweet “MAGA is just mad that I have game” 125.254.125.183 (talk) 07:16, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Left wingers are protected by the rules of this website. There is nothing that can be done. 77.22.105.56 (talk) 07:35, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
You don't say. It amazes me that there is not even a sentence about the Snapchat allegations. Poemisaglock (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- I was notified about this page from a noticeboard posting and have watch-listed it. Please avoid using non-reliable sources for comments about WP:BLPs. Simonm223 (talk) 18:13, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- I know, right? Alistair McBuffio (talk) 01:44, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Controversy sections are commonly only added to right-leaning individuals. I think this site has a rule where left-wingers can't have a section like that so please refrain from adding any of it.-77.22.105.56 (talk) 12:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- That is nonsense. Schazjmd (talk) 13:12, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's really not. It's an unwritten rule enforced through partisan wiki bureaucracy and editorialization from the partisan wiki bureaucracy's approved sources. Most original sources of claims against right-leaning individuals are in fact less reliable than the New York Post. 68.3.202.57 (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- This is not the right place for a general discussion of bias on Wikipedia. The truth is that the sources presented in this thread are not reliable sources, particularly for BLP information which requires higher standards. While controversies *sections* are not generally preferred on Wikipedia there would be no objection to including information about Sisson's controversies... if those controversies are sourced to the quality and quantity of sources we would expect for a BLP inclusion of this nature. Simonm223 (talk) 12:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's really not. It's an unwritten rule enforced through partisan wiki bureaucracy and editorialization from the partisan wiki bureaucracy's approved sources. Most original sources of claims against right-leaning individuals are in fact less reliable than the New York Post. 68.3.202.57 (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Anthony Blair (19 March 2025). "The DNC's favorite TikTokker Harry Sisson is accused of lying to women to get them to send nudes". New York Post.
- ^ "What did Harry Sisson do? All about the influencer's Snapchat scandal". Hindustan Times. 19 March 2025.
- ^ "Who is Harry Sisson? Democrat influencer under attack for manipulating women to share explicit videos". The Times of India. 19 March 2025.
- ^ "Harry Sisson Snapchat scandal: Democrat influencer under attack for manipulating women to share explicit videos". The Economic Times. 19 March 2025.
- ^ "Harry Sisson accused of manipulating women on Snapchat". The Express Tribune. 19 March 2025.
Citizenship
[edit]- @User:RakowskiC Taking this to talk. Sisson is a dual citizen and should be listed as an "Irish-American." See other Irish nationals holding dual citizenship. Maeve Quinlan is described as "Irish-American." Same for Kathleen Brennan and Ronan Ryan. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 22:09, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:CITIZEN recommends "and".
In cases of public or relevant dual citizenship, or a career that spans a subject's emigration, the use of the word and reduces ambiguity.
It gives Peter Lorre and Arnold Schwarzenegger as examples. Schazjmd (talk) 22:18, 23 March 2025 (UTC)- Thank you for the clarification. You are exactly right. Pennsylvania2, please stop changing it to Irish-American as that is a racial/ethnic term. Irish and American is the correct format for dual citizenship. RakowskiC (talk) 23:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- It is also important to note that Sisson is a British last name so we do not even know if Harry is genetically/ethnically Irish. We do know that he is legally Irish. So therefore Irish and American is far more appropriate than “Irish American” which is a ethnic/racial term like “African American” or “Mexican American”. RakowskiC (talk) 01:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. You are exactly right. Pennsylvania2, please stop changing it to Irish-American as that is a racial/ethnic term. Irish and American is the correct format for dual citizenship. RakowskiC (talk) 23:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- You should update those pages because they are formatting incorrectly. I following the MOS:CITIZEN guideline as Irish-American refers to ethnicity and not necessarily citizenship. It is possible to be Irish-American and not be a citizen of Ireland. RakowskiC (talk) 03:09, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree with RakowskiC's (numerous) comments. When I read "Irish-American" I think of, like, Conan O'Brien or Jimmy Fallon, which doesn't seem to be the nature of the characteristics we're working with in this case. Chetsford (talk) 03:46, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:CITIZEN recommends "and".
Citizenship
[edit]He's not american, he is Irish. He does not have american citizenship. 2600:100B:B035:EE78:205D:910F:8241:1434 (talk) 22:25, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
M-Pulse LLC
[edit]Does anyone have a source on the photos of him, Chris, and Camil and a source that Harry Sisson was chief of staff for M-Pulse LLC for Camil Maroun? We can cite his own tweet but we need something to show he was involved directly into M-Pulse LLC. RakowskiC (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
BLP Reminder
[edit]Please everyone remember that we absolutely cannot source antagonistic statements about a third party to social media. This isn't a POV issue but a BLP one and WP:BLP is very strict about what can be sourced to social media. Please see WP:ABOUTSELF. Sisson's comments on Tiktok are fine because we are not making a claim about a specific living person but rather "Republicans", but the prior Twitter comments, that I removed, name a specific person and imply accusations that that person committed crimes. See WP:BLPCRIME. Simonm223 (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
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Harry Sisson is a citizen of Singapore and Ireland and is NOT a US Citizen 2601:8D:8600:EAC0:6DAC:C1F2:FD4:8F8D (talk) 18:46, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 19:03, 3 April 2025 (UTC)