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Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 372 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:50, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer scored at least 29 points in all four games against NCAA Division I opponents?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer holds several school records for assists?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - n
  • Interesting: No - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Recent enough, cited, with no plagiarism as far as I can see. My concerns are regarding the hooks themselves. They are too wordy and do not appear to be supported by the listed source. In fact, the listed source says that Beyer has 276 more points than Clark, not ten. However, speaking as someone who doesn't watch basketball, these hooks don't spark any interest in me. I don't care that one person performed better than another person, especially in basketball. I did notice an achievement that might spark immediate interest. Assuming this hasn't since become outdated, the hook could be something like, using the ESPN as a source:

Hi @TonyTheTiger: please include a citation which verifies the hook fact (Clark's score and Beyer's score) and not just part of it (Beyer's score). Lazman321 acted in good faith by going by your citation. Beyer's score is verified here and Clark's score here, which verify the hook by WP:CALC. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I agree that the Clark hook is the more interesting one. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Following the sentene "Clark finished her career with 3,951 points, ten shy of Beyer," these two citations are present. 55 and 56.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:51, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even as a person interested in basketball, from a country where basketball is a religion, and who knows who Caitlin Clark is, the hook is frankly not going to see much appeal outside of North America I think. Unless you know who Clark is, the hook doesn't really sound all that interesting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:05, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is Caitlin Clark not known outside North America?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:54, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She's not an international star on par with someone like LeBron James, the Williams sister, or Lionel Messi. It's not to downplay her accomplishments in the world of basketball, but internationally she isn't a household name like the others mentioned. Unless a foreigner is well-versed into sports, they're at best most likely to have only passing knowledge of Clark and not really know who she is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:41, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]